Does it exist?

AlexaCocopuffs

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this woc quest(the brawling thing) seems to have good potential for q8 swords if u ask me...
I'm not sure I know what this is, anyone clue me in?

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I'm not sure I know what this is, anyone clue me in?
This one http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Canth...sis_(Hard_mode)

AlexaCocopuffs

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What are some of the best q8 canthan skins you can still get by farming places on Nm? Where can I acquire them?

Kiki Go Boom

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All shields, foci and most of the swords can still drop in q8. Chest running in Pongmei Valley is a great start. Could also farm vermins for celestials, crenelated etc. Good luck

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ok, just to clarify this info about r8 drops,

For them to drop enemys have to be lvl23 for it to be max and also for a chest to drop one the enemys surrounding the chest have to be lvl23 aswell,

Is that correct?

So for example Minister Cho's in HM (all enemys are lvl 23 except the 2 boss like foes) would be a good place to farm for one?

Or do the enemys have to be lvl23 in NM?
That's nearly correct.

It doesn't matter if it's NM or HM, the only thing that matters is level of the drop source.

Level 24 cannot drop max gold req8s at all. Level 23 and lower can.

And chests in HM Minister Cho's are level 22, just like other HM Ascalon/Shing Jea/Istan chests. Unfortunately they also got a much much lower gold to purple drops rate than all other HM chests.

AlexaCocopuffs

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
That's nearly correct.

It doesn't matter if it's NM or HM, the only thing that matters is level of the drop source.

Level 24 cannot drop max gold req8s at all. Level 23 and lower can.

And chests in HM Minister Cho's are level 22, just like other HM Ascalon/Shing Jea/Istan chests. Unfortunately they also got a much much lower gold to purple drops rate than all other HM chests.
So, for example, it would be possible to farm q8 max golds on shing jea island, (even though the chance is slim) in Hm? Would the drop rate be the same as other places in Nm or Hm?

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Originally Posted by AlexaCocopuffs View Post
So, for example, it would be possible to farm q8 max golds on shing jea island, (even though the chance is slim) in Hm? Would the drop rate be the same as other places in Nm or Hm?
HM has increased drop rate of gold items so the likely hood of getting a q8 in HM from a level 23 or less mob is greater than NM. It's still slim mind you.

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???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

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Anyone knows if there were any blue dualred shields back then?

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WTB: q8 bows

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
That's nearly correct.

It doesn't matter if it's NM or HM, the only thing that matters is level of the drop source.

Level 24 cannot drop max gold req8s at all. Level 23 and lower can.

And chests in HM Minister Cho's are level 22, just like other HM Ascalon/Shing Jea/Istan chests. Unfortunately they also got a much much lower gold to purple drops rate than all other HM chests.
How do you know the chests are level 22?

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Yawgmoth

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Originally Posted by Dimmuborgir Satan View Post
Anyone knows if there were any blue dualred shields back then?
I believe there have never been a randomly generated blue shield with 2 inherent mods of any kind.

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How do you know the chests are level 22?
From analysis of recorded data of drops from mobs and chests that I got I'm 100% sure they're lower than 23 and 99% sure they're higher than 21.

AlexaCocopuffs

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A while back, (2+ years) Someone was selling an OS req8 Obby edge, 15^50. He gladly showed it to me as I was in disbelief, can't really pos a pic sense it was a long time ago, but does anyone know of these existing. The guy selling it claimed there were only 3 of them in the game i believe.

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Originally Posted by AlexaCocopuffs View Post
A while back, (2+ years) Someone was selling an OS req8 Obby edge, 15^50. He gladly showed it to me as I was in disbelief, can't really pos a pic sense it was a long time ago, but does anyone know of these existing. The guy selling it claimed there were only 3 of them in the game i believe.
lies, no pics no proof, obby edges only drop as inscript, the only way they arent inscriptable is during deathbane bug hence no inherent, you claim its req8, req8s dont drop from fow end chest.

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Originally Posted by AlexaCocopuffs View Post
A while back, (2+ years) Someone was selling an OS req8 Obby edge, 15^50. He gladly showed it to me as I was in disbelief, can't really pos a pic sense it was a long time ago, but does anyone know of these existing. The guy selling it claimed there were only 3 of them in the game i believe.
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lies, no pics no proof, obby edges only drop as inscript, the only way they arent inscriptable is during deathbane bug hence no inherent, you claim its req8, req8s dont drop from fow end chest.
While I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that we're talking about an honest mistake/misremembering instead of intentional misinformation, I have to agree with the facts superraptors asserts above.
  • The only known source of Obsidian Edges I've heard of is the Chest of Woe (the FoW end reward chest.)
  • That chest has never been known to produce inherent-modded items, only inscribables or glitched items lacking either an inscription slot or an inherent mod.
  • That chest did not exist in game before the Oct. 12, 2007 update, about a year after the Oct. 2006 updates around Nightfall's release that seem to have raised the lowest req. level for maximum damage gear. Elite ~mission end reward chests have never been known to produce items lower than req. 9.
  • The specific skin, Obsidian Edge, was not introduced in the game until the Mar. 6, 2008 game update.

For all of the above reasons, I am extremely doubtful of the existence of either a req. 8 Obsidian Edge or an inherent-modded Obsidian Edge. I would even doubt screenshots unless they came from someone pretty well known and trusted. To believe it, I would probably have to see it in the trade window in game myself ... and take screenshots ... and then look at them again a few hours later to be sure I saw what I thought I saw. There's just so much information arguing against the existence of such a thing.


Are you sure he didn't show you, say, an r8 inherent 15^50 Shadow or Oni Blade maybe? Don't underestimate the power of suggestion - it's amazing what your mind can decide to believe it's seeing ... especially when it really wants to!

ogrim doomhammer

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Does anyone know if any +10 demons shadow shield or eternal shields exist?

It seems I can only find them on canthan and core skins but not on these. (only found in FoW and UW respectively)

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Originally Posted by ogrim doomhammer View Post
Does anyone know if any +10 demons shadow shield or eternal shields exist?

It seems I can only find them on canthan and core skins but not on these. (only found in FoW and UW respectively)
No, Demons only drops in Cantha. Demons, Ogres, Plants and Dragons are exclusive to Cantha, Tengu, Dwarves, Charr, Skeletons, Trolls and Giants are exclusive to Tyria, Undead can only drop in FoW or UW I think.

Jan Breydel

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I got a plants warlord and an undead magmas, so both of these drop in prophecies

ogrim doomhammer

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That is very, very disappointing news for me.

Okay so before I give up on my collection before I start it, are there any skins that can get every mod? I think maybe defender and tall shield. But not really a fan of defenders...

spun ducky

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Originally Posted by ogrim doomhammer View Post
That is very, very disappointing news for me.

Okay so before I give up on my collection before I start it, are there any skins that can get every mod? I think maybe defender and tall shield. But not really a fan of defenders...
I see a like minded person. I have been working on a true complete shield set. The complete part meaning Dual Dmg Reduction and vs all species cantha/tyrian.

The skins I know off the top of my head are: Tall Shield, Crude Shield,Ornate Buckler,Wooden Buckler,Defender, Tower Shield, Shield of the wing, Aegis, and Skull Shield.

These are the only skins that can be a true complete shield set of vs species/dual reduction.

ogrim doomhammer

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Alright thanks for the info man!

Although I'm quite disappointed in the way this was designed... There's only 1 skin in strength you can get all +10 mods for. Thats garbage! But it is what it is.

Do you guys think I should go for Aegis(or Shield of the Wing) or Tall Shield for my tactics set? ^.^ I'm excited to start shopping.

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Originally Posted by Jan Breydel View Post
I got a plants warlord and an undead magmas, so both of these drop in prophecies
Not really surprised about the Undead, I already thought they'd drop in Proph as well. I am however surprised about the vs Plants Warlord. I thought that was factions exclusive. What I can say with absolute certainty is:

Factions:
Demons
Dragons
(Ogres: not completely sure)

Proph:
Dwarves
Charr
Tengu
Giants
Skeletons
Trolls

So I guess Plants is Factions+Proph, and then I guess Undead is proph + FoW/UW. I wonder how they implemented that and with what reasons they did. I'd pay my ass off for a +10vDemons +45ench Magmas, Gloom or Warlord.

ogrim doomhammer

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Yea that would be sick. I was looking forward to the shadow shields but you can't always get what you want. ^.^

spun ducky

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Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

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I know these were a possible drop at one point just curious if one was ever produced and they are q8 +5e sephis axe also q8 +5e DeadBow? In theory these should have been entirely possible although with the release of factions not much tyrian farming was happening and it was the release of factions that added the +5e.

system.fan

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Hmmmm just remembered somethin else...
When eotn was released, there were purple inscribable crystalline(s) dropping....
There was a screenshot of a req9 max inscr purple one going around for few weeks...
But i personally never saw any ingame....

Anyone of you got any other screens or saw any purple inscr crysta ingame?
would rly like to know if there were more than the req9 dropping and even if not, where that req9inscr purple is nowadays...

cheers

GhostKairi

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Originally Posted by system.fan View Post
Hmmmm just remembered somethin else...
When eotn was released, there were purple inscribable crystalline(s) dropping....
There was a screenshot of a req9 max inscr purple one going around for few weeks...
But i personally never saw any ingame....

Anyone of you got any other screens or saw any purple inscr crysta ingame?
would rly like to know if there were more than the req9 dropping and even if not, where that req9inscr purple is nowadays...

cheers
Hmmm, i know youll probably disgregard this without proof, but i used to own a Req9 inscr Purple Crysta. I bought it for 80e back when Ascalon ID1 was still the rage. Not to sure of source of the drop, but im PRETTY sure it was during the preview weekend, if im correct? I do regret selling that beauty, as do i regret selling anything of value all those years ago Might be the same one your on about. I did have a picture of it on my old computer, but that died, along with 700 other pictures of glorious Guild Wars memorys.

EDIT: Also, as far to my knowledge, that is the only one that has dropped, although im not 100%. Its the only one i know of anyway.

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I know of several purple inscriptable crystallines, they dropped during the sneak peak preview of eotn. I can look on my old computer for screenshots.

Enchanted Krystal

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This is one for my own curiosity. Highend Oldschool stuff :P

Has anyone got a screenshot or has personally seen an R8 Str 16AL +30 -5(20%) Magmas Shield?

Also... Does a req 7 Serpent Axe or Dwarven Axe exist? Gold or purple.
Check it......



......if a +28 is out there, a +30 has to exist.......dosent it? o.O

P.S. This is my mates, not my shield....unfortunately

~Andy~

Pleikki

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theres no r8 30 5/20 magma me thinks? or r7 dwarven / serpent carnage

system.fan

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hmmm does anyone know of some prenerfed (i mean -2/-2 or -2/-3) gloom shields?
ive seen every tyrian/core shield skin with those mods before but gloom...

GhostKairi

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Originally Posted by system.fan View Post
hmmm does anyone know of some prenerfed (i mean -2/-2 or -2/-3) gloom shields?
ive seen every tyrian/core shield skin with those mods before but gloom...
Gloom Shield was a shield that was added later on in the game if im correct? Pretty sure it was added after Factions.

system.fan

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aw dam i knew there was some reason for it .... nearly forgot about that lol

i am the ownage

i am the ownage

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Join Date: Dec 2007

WTB r6 or less OS golds

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I've got a couple questions

1. Do fellblades drop anywhere in low level areas as to where the blade could have requirments less that 7?
EDIT: thanks for the searching on the fellblades=] this question arose to me because I have heard of afflicted dropping them and since afflicted definately occur at lower levels....you get the idea(I have never personally seen an afflicted drop a fellblade, ony heard as a rumor).

2. Do Jitte drop in purple? I' recall getting white ones and gold, but I've never seen a grape one.

EDIT: thanks for the help on these questions! for now my curiosity is sated=]

superraptors

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jittes can drop as purples from chests, so i am assuming it does also for creatures but i don't pay much attention to it.

Kiki Go Boom

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Mr Sunqua Blade

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Purple jitte exists. I've had quite a few drop while chest running naga

edit: ninja'd

AlexaCocopuffs

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Join Date: Jan 2011

Just recently started a collection of r8 gothic swords (very small collection if you have some hmu!!!) anyways, I was wondering if there were any r7 gothic swords? I <3 gothic swords^^

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Originally Posted by i am the ownage View Post
1. Do fellblades drop anywhere in low level areas as to where the blade could have requirments less that 7?
I've had fellblades drop from the chests around Jade Brotherhood in Wajjun Bazaar. Whether or not this is possible to go below req 7 you have to ask Yawg, because he knows this stuff better than me

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Someone lately tried convincing me he had a shield with 2 hp mods, though he couldnt show it because he was in DoA (which he was).
I was absolutely sure i've at least never seen this and therefore convinced one wouldnt exist.

could someone confirm they do NOT exist?

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Someone lately tried convincing me he had a shield with 2 hp mods, though he couldnt show it because he was in DoA (which he was).
I was absolutely sure i've at least never seen this and therefore convinced one wouldnt exist.

could someone confirm they do NOT exist?
Triple mod mausoleum drop? I don't know of any with 2 of the same mod but its possible.

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Originally Posted by ele kid View Post
Someone lately tried convincing me he had a shield with 2 hp mods, though he couldnt show it because he was in DoA (which he was).
I was absolutely sure i've at least never seen this and therefore convinced one wouldnt exist.

could someone confirm they do NOT exist?
It's awfully hard to confirm something does NOT exist. Offer the guy 100k just to show it in trade the next time he's on a break from DoA. (Not 100k to buy it, just 100k tip to show it to you in the trade window.) If you don't want to, I'll offer mine. Show me a shield with more than one +health mod in the trade window, and I'll give you a 100k for your trouble.



I don't think such a thing is possible because I've never seen a shield like that drop for me or offered for sale (at least, not with any convincing proof that it wasn't simply a case of someone auctioning something that did not exist) and because of what I've read Yawg post over the years.

I saw Yawg post this on a Q/A thread in June 2010 and saved a link.
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
Dual reduction shields (-2 in stance and another -dmg mod) stopped dropping shortly before or at the moment of Factions release. Since then inherent shields can drop with any 2 mods that come from different mod groups. There are 5 mod groups for shields:
+Health mods,
+Armor mods,
-Dmg reduction mods,
-Condition reduction mods,
+1 Attribute mods.

Before that update, the -2 (while in stance) mod was treated as a separate 6th mod group so it could appear together with any mod from any group including the other reduction mods.
I remember seeing his posts insisting that a triple mod mauso shield could not possibly have dropped with two hp mods because the game has some additional safety code that disallows any inherent item to drop with more than one mod from the available "mod groups" he mentioned. I saw him post such assertions in the discussion/debate about the various stuff the "Comandeering ..." thread about the weird Mauso loot, too. He argued that the code was separate from the part that was glitched and being allowed to add suffix mods to inherent shields, wands and foci (which is what created the triple-mods.) He said that the game would not have allowed the random generator to produce an item with both an inherent +hp mod and a suffix +hp mod on any of the Mauso shields and foci.

He's human (I think,) so not 100% infallible. But he's had my vote for the single most well informed source on the ins and outs of GW loot possibilities for a lot of years now.

Disproving Yawg's loot theories is kind of scary but interesting, too, when you consider that over six years later there is still so much we don't know for sure about exactly how GW works. That's worth 100k to me!

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not loot related but i seem to recall there used to be a pet called Fern Lizards that were found in the northlands of pre (since replaced with piggies). Anyone still have one as a pet or even remember these?