zaishen or sweet tooth cheaper?

if I needed one more title for HoM, and for simplicity, i have 0 points in both.

would r3 zaishen be cheaper or r2 sweet tooth be cheaper?

i have done some basic math.

1 zkey = 5500?
200 zkey = 1,100,000?

1 sweet point = 100g?
10,000 sweet points = 1,000,000?

are my prices accurate?. more importantly, i realize zkeys have a return rate of something, because you get items from the chest. Anybody open alot of chest and can estimate how much I would make back? Would it be greater than 100k?

or should I just stick with sweet tooth.

I'd go for Z title if it's for HoM. If you're going for GWAMM then you have to do Sweet tooth.

Zaishen at least gives a shot at decent items. Sugar is used up.

hey,

Firstly Z Is the best for HoM, Assuming you dont have another PvP title as its owrth 2 points, where as sweet Tooth is just worth 1.

Secondly yeah you can expect some sort of return on the Z chest. I am r8 atm, and so far have only had 1 VS drop, no Everlasting tonics no decent skins, maybe a few decent mods, but not to warren the money/time spent on the title.

If you are looking for HoM points only, then Zrank would be the way to go. you could get lucky with drops and make a bit of money back, if not you will still end up with lots of Firewater ~400each or Creme Brules and Lock Picks.

I got my Sweet and drunk titles up solely from the Zchest and drops on my warrior, and R2 sweet ~8000 Drunk.

The only problem is Zkeys are hard to find. and sweet Points are easy to find. 6e=250. so it is really up to you if u want to waste time looking for Keys, or just buy the easier title.

Yes your prices are fairly accurate.
As far as making 100k off of going for r3 z-rank, should probably check the wiki for drop percentages so you dont get your hopes up. Expect alot of firewater flasks and creme brulees.

haha zaishen counts as pvp.
never wouldve guessed that.

nice. thanks. that makes decision easy.

You can buy Zkeys for less than 5,5k each. For example, I bought them till r3 for 4,5-4,7k each really fast with the HoM rewards already implemented. So, an average of 5k each would make it 1kk. But trust me, it won't be difficult to spend only 900k.

You also have the chest's drop. You can get shit from it, like sin or mesmer tomes or high-end items, EL tonics.... It is just a matter of luck. But for example based on wiki statistics, receiving a Crème Brûlée has about 25% chance, so for 200 keys, would make 50 Crèmes. There is a lot of people paying 400g for each, that would make statistically, an echonomicall feedback of 20k.
About 1/3 would be gold items [7 golds -> 4.5k(aprox)]. And statistically you would receive 66 golds -> 42k. So you easily received 60k from what you had spend.

If you go for sweet tooth, now prices are ok, so you can get it for 1kk, luckly lightly cheaper.


Looking far in the future, if you go for zaishen you will be receiving sweet points as well, but if you go for sweet points, if you want to go later for zaishen you will have to start from 0 and you will have exceeding sweet points.

I got ALL of my sweet points for free (nic, halloween, wintersday etc)...so it was easy.....and free, just took some time.

Zaishen.......

Sweet tooth is easily done for free when holiday events come around. I know some people who max'd sweet on 2 or 3 characters just this past Wintersday.

Zashien title also has a chance at some good items. Don't get your hopes up thinking you'll get any money back, but at least bet on a handful of elite tomes. Also, you'll get a fair amount of sweets from the chest.

You can get Zaishen Keys for free by purchasing them with Balthazar Faction. You can earn this through low-level PvP - Zaishen Elite, Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry or Alliance Battles. The Factions PvP also earns you Kurzick or Luxon Faction for those titles.

yup, only need 1 million or so balthy faction

i'm in gtob right now and there are four people buying at 5.5K, three for 5.6K and two at 6K. imo I think it would be very difficult to only spend 900K. :/

one thing you forgot to factor in is the people and dates. some sweets like cremes are usually the same prices. but event sweet usually go up as the further away we go from the event. and some items like rock candy are usually priced different per person. its cheaper to do zaishen or if your not in a hurry get your sweet via nic.

for sweet tooth, buy cheep sweets, not red,blue, green candies, those are priced more for the effects.