Trading between GW and GW2

This might look like a silly question, but I was wondering. If GW2 were to be released before we all die of old-age, some people would still be playing GW1. I myself probably too, out of nostalgia every once in a while.

Now my question, would it be considered against the EULA to trade items with someone in GW1 in return for items in GW2?

Because, it is of course the same franchise, but then again you would be trading items in the game for items that are not in the game, which is kind of like trading for IRL items. So, would you cause some kind of quantum collapse in the Anet EULA, or would they shrug and ban you, or would they shrug and let you go on with it?

Discuss.

Here are the pro's and con's that have been listed so far:

Pro:
*It makes sense, same franchise, same company after all
*If they create a HoM in GW1 with which you can get items for in GW2, decorative or not, it would be sort of strange if they would disapprove of this
*You're not trading for IRL items after all
*It will be done anyway
*It's sort of like trading pre-post (although I don't agree on that myself)

Cons:
*How would you prove it's not really for IRL items?
*It's still trading for items that are not in the game
*They are different games nonetheless

Yes. its illegal... . .. .... ..

I don't see why it would be any more illegal than trading something in Pre-Searing for something in Post-Searing. However, there is a big issue with trust (just as with Pre/Post trades), and I don't think ANet would be very helpful if you get ripped off in such a trade. It would be at your own risk.

They are different games so no, it shouldn't be allowed. For example: You can't trade GW items for WoW items.

Yes, but GW1 and GW2 is the same franchise, it is ran by the same company. So it would sort of make sense that it could be possible, but it also makes perfect sense to be illegal. Therefor the confusion.

And, it's perfectly possible to do without trust, you can run both GW1 and GW2 at the same time, and hit accept like first in GW2 before you do in GW1 or something. Besides, the same trust is indeed needed when trading pre-post

It is not illegal but it is against the EULA so far as I know "not that I ever read such things, life's too short and most contracts are extremely long.

So no chance of arrest and trial just a ban for breaking your agreement with anet.

99% sure its illegal, since its, after all, two different games, even tho its the same company and GW2 is named like a "continuation" of GW1, which it kind of is.
However it wouldnt surprice me if things like that will happen once GW2 is out, especially in the beginning when there's still a bunch of ppl playing GW1 and some fast-progressing ppl wants to make heaps of money on stuff they get. I dont know every detail about the looting system more than it's gonna be same as what we have now with individual drops.

Sounds a bit unlikely, someone giving GW2 items away to get GW1 items...

Illegal? No.
Against EULA? Yes. You would get the ban hammer in the face if you get caught.

Just to clarify, with the word 'illegal' I meant against the EULA.

And, I don't think it would be that strange. Of course a stack of ecto wouldn't be worth that much but at least you could get something for it..

Too bad, no quantum gap then :P

And, it's easy enough to get away with trading for IRL items already, so I don't think it's gonna be that hard to accomplish in GW2 either.

You're saying that out of experience?

I'll put it this way, if you feel the need to justify doing it, it's probably illegal.

Thats the first time Ive ever heard that. lol. Please show the passage in the User Agreement where it states you cant trade items here for (Ingame and free) items from another game.

The only passage is the one against RMT which is explicitly against real money trading.

Trading items in GW1 against items in GW2 or even WoW isnt against the User agreement as far as I know, you just have to be able to back up your claim against an automatic ban from Anet if you are flagged for suspected RMT actions.

Apart from that it has already been said. It would be like Post/presearing trading. If any problems should arise your on your own.

In summary it is allowed, but be aware that it is risky due to trade flagging from Anet and misused trust from your trade partner which will not be followed up by Anet.

Way i see it - trading items between gw and gw2 will be extremely difficult , gw items may rise slightly in price due to supply and demand but for quite a while gw2 items will be over priced - how can you set a new weapons price in a new game fairly.How will you know youre not being ripped off or scammed and how would you do the trade - open both clients and hope the player just doesnt get his items in gw2 then vanish before its done in gw ?

ANet has banned peeps for trading gw items for wow gold in the past. They will throw the RMT rule at you even if you have proof to back it up. To ANet wow items may as well be real money since people channel guild wars items through wow and wow items/gold can be sold quite easy for real money. I have actually seen it happen before but its far less common now as guild wars is dying of old age. They probably dont give a shit about gw1 and wow trading going on anymore but GW2 will be another story. Unless they say otherwise GW1 and GW2 will be okay but don't do it with games belonging to other companies

I can sell wow items on ebay. Thereby it is just as good as money.


[edited out cause really no need for it to be der now is der?]

Ofc...if anet started looking at trades that involved a stack of ectos and...a single pile of glittering dust...OR...started looking at the amounts of money people are picking up in the isle of the nameless. I think the RMT ban rate would skyrocket.

No, most certainly not, I am too much of a wimp to even consider it, too afraid of a possible ban
But I know people that have gotten away with it/are still getting away with it, so...

It's cool to see different opinions on this one.. I actually wonder what Anet would have to say about this *hint, Regina*. But they're probably to preoccupied with other things to bother to read this...

I'm sure that guru admins will be asking for a ruling at some point as this won't be the last time this question arises. But ArenaNet won't be in a rush to make that ruling until it's gone through their legal department.

I have a difficult time understanding, how giving something to my friend, like a couple of stacks of ectos and or 200,000 gold, can be mistaken for RMT. A one sided trade, whether it is a single Glittering Dust or a stack of ectos, does not say, "Hey look at me! I am trading real money for in game items!"

How would they detect me giving you a GW item and you giving me a GW2 item and call it a trade?

Im curious about that too. They would need some kind of evidence of it being an actual "illegal trade" befor they can ban ppl for it. But where do they get that kind of evidence? Sure they prolly can ready chatlogs and see if there's any discussion going on or has been going on about it, but if not?