livestreaming of GvG tournaments (at/mAT??)

bursta91

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Canada

Gangsters In The [HooD]

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HEY EVERYONE BUMP TO THE TOP FOR FIGURING THIS CRAP OUT!

http://www.justin.tv/burstersc

leave comments in chat or pm me here if stuff is too loud etc.!!!!

If you didnt get to read this the first time around, I was attempting to stream GvG and HA and other Guild Wars activities from the PvP world. I have now like to think that I have it working so come over and take a look at some laddering happening while it happens!

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

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As far as someone watching the live stream to counter strategies is concerned, it can't happen.
For one, most live stream websites have at least a 30 second delay in the stream (some up to 3 minutes). This means that whatever you are watching happened at least 30 seconds ago, so it wouldn't be efficient to try and counter someone by watching their live stream as you fought them.
Secondly, the live streams are not from the real-time match up. Its is being live streamed from observer mode, which isn't available to watch until 15 minutes after the match starts.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDog91 View Post
As far as someone watching the live stream to counter strategies is concerned, it can't happen.
For one, most live stream websites have at least a 30 second delay in the stream (some up to 3 minutes). This means that whatever you are watching happened at least 30 seconds ago, so it wouldn't be efficient to try and counter someone by watching their live stream as you fought them.
Secondly, the live streams are not from the real-time match up. Its is being live streamed from observer mode, which isn't available to watch until 15 minutes after the match starts.
I assume that you didn't actually try looking at the stream before you posted. If you did, you'd probably have notice that he is streaming as he is playing the AT, complete with Ventrilo.

Also, from watching people's Starcraft streams, the stream is usually less than five seconds behind.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

I need to learn2click on links...

Looks awesome but ghosting will be a problem.

Great stuff, guy.

A little piece of advice: install SCFH DSF to configure the overlay of the stream. It's a great tool to have since your screen looks pretty small. Let me know if you need any help with the resolution.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
I assume that you didn't actually try looking at the stream before you posted. If you did, you'd probably have notice that he is streaming as he is playing the AT, complete with Ventrilo.

Also, from watching people's Starcraft streams, the stream is usually less than five seconds behind.
You are correct, I didn't click it.
From his description of what he was doing it sounded like observer mode.

As far as the delay is concerned, I've personally never seen one less than 25 seconds.

bursta91

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Canada

Gangsters In The [HooD]

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Just finished the at had a few viewers near the mid/end. I will stream again tomorrow if we/I play.

Planning on making new channel something like gw2k11gvg or something clever like that. Post some quality names if you think of any.

As far as audio I am planning on not broadcasting the vent during souper serious play ie at. during ladder fun or HA runs while we are waiting I will try to remember to turn it on.

@apok
I will take a look into that as well as getting a possibly better stream quality somehow. I will need to test how things go with different settings on my computer over the next few days.

Necromas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'd want to be able to watch a match in obs mode while listening to a commentary on it.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Necromas View Post
I'd want to be able to watch a match in obs mode while listening to a commentary on it.
This would be a bit difficult to do when he's playing AT's, since the opponent he is facing could easily listen to their communication and cheat that way. This is called "ghosting," and some streaming programs are trying to add a function to allow streamers to add delay time in order to counteract this.

He stated that he'll have ventrilo up for regular matches and HA, though.

bursta91

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Canada

Gangsters In The [HooD]

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All of this is true, being able to watch what is happening and having it throughly desected by Asp and krewe is pretty legit. I also think that if I can somehow figure out a delaying process, being able to here the strats called on vent and watching whats happening from a players prospective has the potential to be sick too. ie get a webcam set up to watch keyboard/mouse while in game would be cool.

This is all cool sounding, and is actually near attainable. Again, this was the first night lots to think of and improve, tips/comments/ideas are greatly welcomed.

In before getting better players instead of this burster toomz shitter kid

darkmuskrat

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2010

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Hey. I liked watching the stream. It was good to see how some stuff changed since factions when I last played with my old guild.

I was just disappointing the stream peaked at 9 viewers in the middle.
Ill be sure to watch you guys if you jump back into it in the future.
~darkmuskrat (stream alias)

Necromas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Don't forget about archive viewers though.

P.S. I'm totally gonna watch your 4v4 starcraft stuff.

diabiosx

diabiosx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]

W/E

i watched it last night for 2mins, kinda blurry and low res so i left.

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

Not that I have the time, but cool.

bursta91

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Canada

Gangsters In The [HooD]

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laddering atm. i think the quality is a bit better????

bursta91

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Canada

Gangsters In The [HooD]

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bump to the top for finally figuring this out!