Have you had surprising attitude changes?

Malchior Devenholm

Malchior Devenholm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dragon Arena!!!

Pshycho Ninjas [oGod] | Vent Rage [vR] | Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

I told myself I would never do the money titles. After HoM calculator, I started the sweet title because I could have bonuses while playing.

Now 2011, I have stacks of sweets that I'm burning all the time in PvE, My party title is nearing 1000 points, and I have ALL the alcohol to get drunkard (just have to use it).

I got all that alcohol in ONE night of power-trading in Kamadan. I started at like 11 PM, and didn't notice the time until 5 AM. By then, it was too late to go to bed, so I just kept power-trading a couple more hours before finally crashing at 7 AM.

It's crazy what a little incentive can do for people...

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

I stuck to my guns on 3 titles i said i would never get: Kurz maxed/Lux maxed/Drunkard. I did Treasure Hunter/Wisdom instead, but I always wanted those. The VQ ones I said I would never do and I ended up doing them after doing all my cartography. What a waste. I haven't played GW since before Wintersday 2010. I will play again when the derv update hits and also when I can make builds for 7 heroes to try it out.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
The VQ ones I said I would never do and I ended up doing them after doing all my cartography. What a waste.
Yeah me too. The amount of time I wasted doing that is unfathomable. And not drinking while VQing also wasted hours and hours of time.

Bassma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2010

Here's a question anyone know the "amount" of HOM rewards anyone is going to get? Say you do 50/50 are you going to get every reward on that list or just ONE? It's something I haven't seen explained yet.

Spike Stritter

Spike Stritter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

Always have been a title and rewards type of player. Currently sitting on GWAMM 50/50 just so i can look "cool" in GW2. Though for the most part I had a lot of fun getting these titles. Running away from hydras rushing for that last lil part of unexplored area while dying of laughter over vent. Good times.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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Well, it's not wasted time if you have fun doing it.

I never thought I'd bother getting much of anything in my HoM, I never thought I'd bother doing anything in HM, never thought I'd want Obsidian armor, never thought I'd do any titles at all.

And now I'm currently sitting in my guild hall spamming through stacks of sweets, have one continent vanquished and another half-done, only need a couple more weapons to fill out my displays in my HoM, and will be doing FoW with my friend as soon as we both have enough free time to get our Obsidian armor.

Highly doubt I'll ever get a GWAMM, because I just don't have the patience for most of the titles, but I've accomplished more (and have the means to accomplish more) than I expected I would!

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassma View Post
Here's a question anyone know the "amount" of HOM rewards anyone is going to get? Say you do 50/50 are you going to get every reward on that list or just ONE? It's something I haven't seen explained yet.
if you get 50/50 you get every item on the list for every character on your account in GW2. you also get every title. also, if you got GWAMM, every character on your gw2 account can wear that title as well.

Master Fuhon

Master Fuhon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGizzy View Post
Do you find yourself interested in things you previously dismissed, much to your surprise?
1. An 'attitude' is an indication of a person's positive, negative, or ambivalent feelings towards an object. 'Behavior' is the way one acts under no outside influence or responds to any stimulus. A 'behavioral' change does not always indicate that an 'attitude' change has taken place. You can respond to things you like/dislike differently. Behavior can be deceptive or sarcastic.

2. If an attitude change actually has taken place, it may also be only temporary. Many temporary changes are more heavily influenced by outside circumstances, not by something that has produced an inner change. There is a notable distinction between 'persuasion' and 'force' to produce change. There is still gray area between the two, but it relies on decreasing degrees of personal freedom. But if it takes longer to get a group for certain things, there is a net loss of freedom that influences action.

3. An attitude change is not a philosophy change, although some people choose to use the two words synonomously (Any ensuing semantic argument must be worth the time 'saved' by putting no effort into word selection). A philosophy encompasses more than positive, negative, or ambivalent feelings towards an object. A 'philosophy' is a belief about acting based on any combination of values, reasoning, emotions, attitudes, and knowledge. A philosophy change is much more drastic because it will be closer to a change in a person's 'core beliefs'. When something is a personal philosophy, it may also dictate actions. Attitudes can remain the same and be ignored; if you ignored one of your own philosophies, it wouldn't be your philosophy anymore.

Ex. attitudes - Person hates grind. Person likes hanging out with people.
philosophy - Person only does things he has a net positive liking for.
constraint - Grinding becomes the easiest way to group with new people.
attitude changes, philosophy stays the same - Person likes grind more when it combines with grouping with people. Person likes game less because he is surrounded by grinders. Person plays game less because groups don't know how to improve beyond putting the strongest skills on the bar.

4. One can 'avoid' the humiliation of holding an incorrect philosophy by simply changing ones attitude towards a humiliation-inducing object; or by changing ones attitude towards any object that throws off a complete understanding. Doing so is one of the ways people stay proud and stay wrong. I do not recommend this for everyone, but certainly, stupidity can be comedic if it ceases. However, reading a 'shadow form is balanced' post from someone who joined the forums in 2005 is depressing. Some may call this an attitude 'change', but it is part of the nature of jokes to cease to be funny when timed improperly.

5. New technology is helping to mass produce plenty of slower-witted animals that lazily gorge themselves on things placed in front of them. I guess anyone can simply say no to eating crow. I've heard bull is getting more popular.

6. I hope that my set goal of 45/50 HoM ends up being pointless, and that title discrimination does not impede any part of the early stages of the sequel. My current assumption is that other game releases do not impress me enough to warrant skipping out on trying Guild Wars 2. Beyond the 'honeymoon period' of starting out, MMOs often end up feeling like an old formula. Based on previous Guild Wars decisions, I expect the life of the game to be during the first half year or so, and for the end-game to be a horrid combination of class exclusion, consumable grind, and players clamoring for 'tactical shortcuts'. I also expect them to underestimate the 'afk in outpost meta' that becomes end-game after a certain point of playing the game. But it will probably have good art and musical scores.

7. To answer the question I quoted specifically, I have found myself more interested in other games I had previously dismissed. Unfortunately, due to a longstanding rash of bad DoA/UW pugging, I have also found myself more interested in avoiding Guild Wars end game. It's not that I hate MMO end-game; I came to the realization that some games have a different flavor of end-game. I would call this 'differentiation', because it's a different kind of change. Sometimes people are not right and wrong, but a statement can be further differentiated.

Cogginator

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2011

The Iron Fist Of Land

D/Mo

after starting the game i thought the defender of ascalon title was stupid along with the cartography titles..... now i'm lvl 8 with a character in pre searing ascalon adn with my main dervish i've got 100% in elona cartpgraphy adn over half way with tyria and cantha.. as soon as you seen the number rack up you get stuck into it and that addiction blade keeps digging harder into your brain