Is It Hard To Get The Second Longbow In The HoM Calculator?

Kagome

Kagome

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Missouri

R/A

Hey guys! I've been playing GW on and off for the past 5 or so years, but I only have 11 points in the calculator right now. Will it be hard to get up to 22 by the time GW2 comes out? I'm not very good at the game...

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

You have tons of time. Just look at what needs to be done. Then figure out your best way of getting to how many points you need.

It's probably 6 months + anyways

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

yes you should have plenty of time---and it also depends on what you already have....some stuff just requires plat/mats to get while others require finishing stuff (you might have more than you think--have you taken all of your characters to the HoM and gone to the honor monument to see what you have--).
minis and armor are pretty easy, if you finished prophecies and most of eye you should be able to get the oppressor weapons and/or destroyer ----

good luck!!

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

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22 can be done in less then half a day

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

You need to find an active guild to join (Guild Connections section), so you have people to work on completing mission/bonus and other titles like skill capping.

Here is a link to the stickied guide at the top of this forum http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10454341.html

You will need to play on a regular basis to accomplish your goal. Also, you can continue to work on your HoM after GW2 is released.

Tommy's

Tommy's

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2006

[Bone]

Mo/

It's the first and only longbow The other is a shortbow

But like others said, its very easy to get it. Just get all the needed heroes and pets (or make the 20 amount) by finishing the campaigns and give them armor (all remnants from nf are easy to get and cloths of the brotherhood are easy aswell), add a few mini's, and all armors except obsidian perhabs since its quite expencive. Then get legendary guaridan, legendary lb + ss and some of the EotN grind titles, and you will be way past it. Can be done within a month or 2 perhabs 3 when starting from blank (assuming you do know how skills and everything work )

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by superraptors View Post
22 can be done in less then half a day
Not for everyone. Please leave the elitism at the door. 11 to 22 for a new player may take a long time.

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

Rt/Mo

Hi there,

Yes you will be able to achive your target by playing the game.

Make sure your Hom is set for account wide first of all.
Then see what armour you have on each char if its elite then it counts .

your accompliments ie protector,guardian ect are counted so display the Tapestry and enter the ones you have.

On the right side of the calculator you will also see what you require to top up some points once you have all your chars accomplishments displayed.

select form the list shown what char is closest to the title ect then play that one to complete it

When you play through heart of the north you as was said obtain medals of honor to obtain wepons that can be displayed.

You can even use one char or 2 to get those and gift one to your other char ie once your other char has it then only then dedicate the wepon thus all your chars can have an Oppesor wepon.

Dont get conned into selling of war supplies ect as these can be made into medals also so hang onto them as 1 stack will get you a wepon also.

So in all you have plenty of time to even take all your chars through the game by selecting the one thats near to completion of a title.

Heros armour is not to bad to obtain also that counts so you can use various chars to obtain the cloths and can either give to 1 char or split them.

Skinless242

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

as a casual player with a very inactive guild I have 28 points only real grinding I have done was maxing the norn and vangaurd title tracks. As being a casual player I don't have a lot of funds to just buy stuff however there are somethings that is fairly easy to do to get some points in the hom calculator such as getting the black moa chick mini for the unique mini if you don't have one already as well as getting some of the cheaper prestige armors. Also it is fairly easy to get some of your nightfall heroes armor upgrades (the five that use the stolen sunspear armor I was able to farm in roughly 2 hours total. Also keep in mind that the calculator totals all characters on your account.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

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I've played very casually for 5 years and hen the HoM calculator was released, I had 12 points. By the end of the day, I had 21. (now up to 25 and can get my 30/50 in a day if I wasn't so lazy)
If you've played through all the games, then its rather easy to get in the low 20s. Most of the points will come from things that you've just been putting off (armor for heros, pet statues, UW/FoW/Sorrow's Furnace/an elite armor here or there).

If you send me a private message with your character name, I can see what you have already and give you a list of easy things that can be done in a day or 2.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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It obviously depends a lot on your finances. Most of the points can be obtained pretty quickly via the pets, armors, weapons, and hero armors.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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What have you got done so far? That's the most important thing to know, along with how much money you have to sink into your HoM. I was at 21 when the HoM came out, I'm currently at 34 points. I can probably hit 40 pretty easily.

Easy points would be to beat every campaign and get the Protector titles for each, collect all of your birthday minipets and do the scavenger hunt to get the Mini Black Moa, do War in Kryta and Hearts of the North for a couple of Oppressor weapons, do the challenge missions for Hero armors, try and level a pet to 20, and do the Black Moa quest in Factions to get a Black Moa (as it's a rare pet and gets its own statue, and it's much easier than getting the spider in UW, unless you get a run). With the money from playing the campaigns and doing the challenge missions, as well as salvaging materials, you should be able to (or be close to) get an elite armor set. Do the dungeons in EOTN, as they have a good chance of dropping diamonds and onyx from the end chest, which are used for Destroyer weapons.

I know it sounds like a lot, but if you've already finished the campaigns, chances are you've got Master rewards on several missions already; go back and clean up the ones you may have missed, and also be sure to check out the Zaishen quest schedule. If you've been playing for five years, then you should have a fair number of minis already, and any doubles you have can be sold to fund armor and weapons. Stuff like that. There are also certain titles that do not need to be maxed to be added to your HoM, which is nice.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
It obviously depends a lot on your finances. Most of the points can be obtained pretty quickly via the pets, armors, weapons, and hero armors.
qft

That's how I did it miniPets first I had a ton of them all on a mule character that gave me a good start.

Animal companions next then armours my money was vaporising fast so I did a load of wik quests for the weapons and money.

Zeishen quests esp when they led to me completing all the missions plus bonuses.

friends helped me with a few titles and I am on track for 30 points as soon as I can get my kurzic points up and get the armour.

I don't expect GW2 before winter comes so you should be fine.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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Do all the missions and dungeons in NM and HM. This has the benefit of giving you a few titles for the Honor monument, providing rep for some of the other titles and getting you a little cash (enough for an elite armour or two). When a Zaishen Mission or Bounty that you haven't done comes up, do it.
Vanquishes are also fairly straightforward if a little tedious.

Then just do the WiK on a few characters for some Oppressor weapons. Use any Diamonds and Onyx Gemstones you gain from dungeons to buy Destroyer Weapons.
Minis come from Birthday presents, hero armours can be obtained rather easily. The Shadow Nexus and the Corsair Guild Hall (can't remember the outpost name) ones are easy enough and doing Slaver's Exile should get you a Deldrimor Remnant. Grind out or outright buy remainders if you care enough. Getting all the pets is really easy.

Tormented Weapons aren't necessary. The more stupid titles aren't necessary. Obsidian Armour, Vabbian or Kurz/Lux armour aren't necessary. A complete mini monument is not necessary.

A 2011 release for GW2 is optimistic in my view, so you should have plenty of time.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Also, I'm not really a title grinder by no means but I do highly recommend the Legendary Skill Hunter title. Besides being kind of fun and easy, it counts as FOUR titles in your hall.

Sorrow's Furnace can be easily hero/henched, that will get you another title and a gold.....err.....green mini pet (be sure to get the required incubated egg first).

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

Nah, the skill hunter title costs too much gold and time. Very dependant on finances and requires the effort.
Armour sets cost a lot (proph ones are probably around 75-100k depending on mat costs and if you get the headpiece), but once you've got the capital to front it, you get the reward instantly. Armour sets also have uses in gameplay, the skill titles don't.
But meh, if you want it, go for it.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
Also, I'm not really a title grinder by no means but I do highly recommend the Legendary Skill Hunter title. Besides being kind of fun and easy, it counts as FOUR titles in your hall.

Sorrow's Furnace can be easily hero/henched, that will get you another title and a gold mini pet (be sure to get the required incubated egg first).
You can get the egg hatched after Final Assault. After completing final assault you can skip right to the Forgeman.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
Nah, the skill hunter title costs too much gold and time. Very dependant on finances and requires the effort.
Armour sets cost a lot (proph ones are probably around 75-100k depending on mat costs and if you get the headpiece), but once you've got the capital to front it, you get the reward instantly. Armour sets also have uses in gameplay, the skill titles don't.
But meh, if you want it, go for it.
Legendary skill hunter makes you able to keep up with any skill updates. Armor sets after the 2nd or 3rd set don't really help as much, although armor is much cheaper than 290k.

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Go urgoz tonight, it's Z bounty and counts as one title. And also you dont have to be good to do it.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion View Post
Legendary skill hunter makes you able to keep up with any skill updates. Armor sets after the 2nd or 3rd set don't really help as much, although armor is much cheaper than 290k.
So does one or two platinum spent every time a skill update that changes anything meaningul.
And I have more than one character to indulge with armour sets.

I am Judge

I am Judge

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2010

We Wear Sombrero's

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
Also, I'm not really a title grinder by no means but I do highly recommend the Legendary Skill Hunter title. Besides being kind of fun and easy, it counts as FOUR titles in your hall.

Sorrow's Furnace can be easily hero/henched, that will get you another title and a gold mini pet (be sure to get the required incubated egg first).
thought it was actually a green mini

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

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Originally Posted by I am Judge View Post
thought it was actually a green mini
Yep, my bad.......

aelesia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

It's entirely possible.

I started out a new account completely from scratch last month and I managed to earn my 30/50 HoM points in 32 days with less than 150 hours played. I didn't have any friends or a guild to help me. I don't really consider myself a spectacular Guild Wars player. By several peoples standards, I'm a complete noob too because I need to follow the Wiki step by step and I can't come up with a build to save my life.

My first piece of advice would be for you to completely disregard post #15. It takes a ton of time, 290 plat, and it doesn't even give you a single point. For 290 plat, I could get you about 11 points compared to the 0.8 points Legendary Skill Hunter gives.

Anyway I have a rough estimation of how much it costs for each point at post #13 of this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10454341.html

If you don't mind posting your IGN (so I can check your HoM titles) and telling me how much platinium you have, I could help you plan out the cheapest and fastest route to 22 points (and maybe up to 30).

Good luck.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aelesia View Post

My first piece of advice would be for you to completely disregard post #15. It takes a ton of time, 290 plat, and it doesn't even give you a single point. For 290 plat, I could get you about 11 points compared to the 0.8 points Legendary Skill Hunter gives.
Sorry, I'm thinking in terms of pure titles. Skill Hunter does not give 4 HoM points, only 4/5 titles for a single point.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomortis View Post
So does one or two platinum spent every time a skill update that changes anything meaningul.
And I have more than one character to indulge with armour sets.

fair enough. But from the start of GW it has always been my goal to cap every elite rather than using tomes.

wolfpaq777

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

California

Quote:
Originally Posted by aelesia View Post
It's entirely possible.

I started out a new account completely from scratch last month and I managed to earn my 30/50 HoM points in 32 days with less than 150 hours played. I didn't have any friends or a guild to help me. I don't really consider myself a spectacular Guild Wars player. By several peoples standards, I'm a complete noob too because I need to follow the Wiki step by step and I can't come up with a build to save my life.

My first piece of advice would be for you to completely disregard post #15. It takes a ton of time, 290 plat, and it doesn't even give you a single point. For 290 plat, I could get you about 11 points compared to the 0.8 points Legendary Skill Hunter gives.

Anyway I have a rough estimation of how much it costs for each point at post #13 of this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10454341.html

If you don't mind posting your IGN (so I can check your HoM titles) and telling me how much platinium you have, I could help you plan out the cheapest and fastest route to 22 points (and maybe up to 30).

Good luck.
I'm not the original poster, but I have been steadily working on the same thing and would greatly appreciate any advice =)

IGN: Wolf Paq

My goal is 25. As soon as I hit it I intend to stop playing for points (although I will likely continue to play as the game is fun).

yitjuan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

GMT +8

redt

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfpaq777 View Post
I'm not the original poster, but I have been steadily working on the same thing and would greatly appreciate any advice =)

IGN: Wolf Paq

My goal is 25. As soon as I hit it I intend to stop playing for points (although I will likely continue to play as the game is fun).
sorrow's furnace, destroyer weapon, oppressor weapon , some hero armor(and ask to cap other people's level 20 pets in their menagerie) , luxon/kurzick armor and you're at 24.

Just Sai

Just Sai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

aotearoa

Mo/

the longer your in these forums the longer it will take.
theres no reward for posting here, go back in game

aelesia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfpaq777 View Post
I'm not the original poster, but I have been steadily working on the same thing and would greatly appreciate any advice =)

IGN: Wolf Paq

My goal is 25. As soon as I hit it I intend to stop playing for points (although I will likely continue to play as the game is fun).
Definitely go for the 3 points in Valor. You should be able to craft a Destroyer Weapon for about 40 - 50k as long as you've finished the EotN questline. That will net you 2 points. After that go for the War in Kryta questline. Finishing it alone will give you 7 medals and a couple of war supplies. If you take the bounty quests in hard mode, you should have at least 75 war supplies which you can trade for 3 medals. 3 medals can be traded for 1 Oppressor weapon which will give you 1 more point.

The next 4 most cost-worthy points probably come from Resillence. Get 2 more EotN armors which cost 40k each, and get a Luxon armor which costs about 100k. This will net you 4 more points for a total cost of 180k.

Alternatively you could choose to farm hero armors by yourself. However if you decide to buy hero armors, 15 of them will cost you 150k and net you 2 points, or 75k per point.

A unique minipet can also be bought for about 70k if you're lucky, or you could do the Black Moa Mini quest for 1 more point.

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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Primeval armors don't sell for 10k anymore.. Some powertrading retards still try to sell em for that, but I usually sell mine for anything over 6k..

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by yitjuan View Post
(and ask to cap other people's level 20 pets in their menagerie)
Just a note: you cannot do this.

Vallen

Vallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion View Post
Legendary skill hunter makes you able to keep up with any skill updates. Armor sets after the 2nd or 3rd set don't really help as much, although armor is much cheaper than 290k.
True but doing this requires you to fight enemies so you will be getting drops, on a single skill cap you are going to get close to 1000 gold worth of drops so I would argue that skill capper is more or less a free title, so definitely do it.

aelesia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vallen View Post
True but doing this requires you to fight enemies so you will be getting drops, on a single skill cap you are going to get close to 1000 gold worth of drops so I would argue that skill capper is more or less a free title, so definitely do it.
Except you need time to do it, while crafting armor is almost instatenous. In that time you could be farming for gold instead at a faster rate.

Also there's the fact that Legendary Skill Hunter only adds 0.8 of a point for 290k, while 290k could get you 6 points from the Resillence monument.