What am I doing wrong?

I'm really not sure what the arcane echo is doing in the optionals either... It's there to double the damage. That way you can kill faster by echoing crystal wave or what ever else you use.

Geomancer armor, caster weapon, shield with +10 vs earth. That's all there is to it really.

Also, use Mantra of Earth immediately when you zone so your energy can regen and casting OF/stoneflesh will be a bit easier, even though you shouldn't really have energy issues. That really helped as did getting the caster wep, thanks, now I've seen it work I just need the timing down now

I've noticed two strange things with regards to this ele farm.

First, Arcane Echo does some very strange things in regards to the recharge time of various skills. When Arcane Echo switches back to its primary form (after echoing a spell), the recharge on some other spells (primarily Obs Flesh) seems to change unpredictably. This results in the upkeep timing of Obs Flesh being off in rare cases, often resulting in death. It's a very weird effect, one I can't seem to explain, so I don't run Arcane Echo any more.

Secondly, a friend who also uses this build noticed something weird. He only has a Geomancer insignia on his headpiece, so given the random targetting of attacks should be taking damage on a regular basis. But this is NOT the case. He only seems to take damage when he recasts Mantra of Earth, and only then for a short period of about 10 seconds, before damage drops off to zero again. It's almost like the recast of Mantra causes enemies to target randomly as they should, but then they move their target location back to his headpiece after a while. Is it possible that enemies can choose to target specific locations in Hard Mode? If this is true, why does the Mantra recast cause them to lose targetting for a period?

As I said, weird... I hope your not AE'ing obby flesh, Follow the casting order glyph-->obby-->stoneflesh and you wont die if you keep up your stance



geomancers=safety net. are not needed

Geomancer's are actually needed, I took one off my headpiece once and they were doing small amounts of dmg to me (1-3) so if your missing all 5 you're going to take quite a bit.

On top of that make sure you have a 20% enchantment weap, max armor (obviously), turn on the norn blessing (+hp), and maxed earth (Your link says 15, but at 16 you get an extra second to recast stoneflesh, and its actually much safer).

Good luck.

Geomancer's are actually needed, I took one off my headpiece once and they were doing small amounts of dmg to me (1-3) so if your missing all 5 you're going to take quite a bit.

On top of that make sure you have a 20% enchantment weap, max armor (obviously), turn on the norn blessing (+hp), and maxed earth (Your link says 15, but at 16 you get an extra second to recast stoneflesh, and its actually much safer).

Good luck. you also took off your head piece, which is 70 armor with geos, so ofc you are going to take damage...with enchants + stance you shouldnt take anything

Run the e/me with glyph, obs flesh, stoneflesh aura, mantra of earth. I bring along aura of restoration and ether feast for extra safety. I run full geomancer's armor, a +20 energy/+20% enchanting staff, and then you use wastrel's demise and worry for damage. Tabbing between enemies is fine. They don't scatter from wastrel's skills, and obs flesh prevents interrupts. kk ... ill double check about obs flesh prevents interrupts...thanks!

Well, technically obs flesh doesn't prevent interrupts.. but all they have is spells, and spells fail against obs flesh. Just to clarify. You know what I meant...if you really want to think about it, technically, it would indirectly prevent the interrupts...if it works, w/o it, you would be interrupted. Please don't get all forum elite nazi on me...if you don't have any constructive input, please don't post.

I'll still haven't tested, but what I'm concerned about is:

Disrupting Stab-

Lead Attack. If this attack hits, it interrupts target foe's action. If that action was a spell, it is disabled for 3...9...10 seconds.


Is disrupting stab a spell or a lead attack or the same when considring obby flesh? (b/c for obby flesh u can't be target of enemy spells - Elite Enchantment Spell. For 8...18...20 seconds, you gain +20 armor and cannot be the target of enemy spells, but cannot attack and have -2 energy degeneration.)

Disrupting Stab is not a spell, it is an attack skill. It will interrupt actions even if you have OF up. All spells say "spell" somewhere in their descriptions: spell, hex spell, enchantment spell, etc. If a description does not say it's a spell, it isn't a spell. Thank you Brett...

...then how are all you saying that OF works for farming this specific area? What are you doing to stop the interrupts?

You know what I meant...if you really want to think about it, technically, it would indirectly prevent the interrupts...if it works, w/o it, you would be interrupted. Please don't get all forum elite nazi on me...if you don't have any constructive input, please don't post. Please, I was clarifying my own post, not yours! No offense intended.

The run being discussed is where you run from Longeye's Ledge, through the Bjora Marches, and into Jaga Moraine, where right inside is the 60 Spectral Vaettirs. You have to run from this side to do it safely, too. In addition, these Vaettirs are unique among farms because they attack using earth damage - negating the need for stone striker.

The obs flesh build can't work for raptors, and in fact, ele builds can't nowadays because of the nerf to sliver armor - if any can, it's not the full group.

Hope I've helped!