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Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

R/

09 Feb 2011 at 23:55 - 1

I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but a few searches (and checking the index) did not turn up anything, so I hope this is ok.

I know a lot of people have been frustrated by accidentally closing out of the menu by clicking on the generic "close window" button at the top of the client (next to minimize and maximize/window). For example, I was halfway through a difficult vanq with a guildie when I went to flag heroes (my compass is in the upper right hand corner) and my mouse slipped and I hit the x by accident. Guild Wars instantly closed, and I lost all progress in that vanq.

Would it be possible to have a pop-up window that appears when you hit the x button that would ask if you're sure you wish to close Guild Wars? I know many people that things like this have happened to, and it's really really frustrating.

I know on browsers like firefox there is a warning that appears when you try to close a window with multiple tabs that asks you if you're sure you want to close them. If you didn't mean to close out, then you hit cancel/no, and you don't lose what you were doing.

I really see no reason not to have a confirm close window. Would it be technically feasible? Would it require a lot of work? (I can't imagine that it would).

I'd think this is a small thing that would help a lot of people out.

Thrilla Killa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Florida

W/A

10 Feb 2011 at 00:43 - 2

/Signed

Something so simple can help a ton.

I've accidently closed myself out of many important things, including a SoO run where a q9 BDS dropped for me and i scrolled up to pick it up and clicked the X by mistake!

Kirzath

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

10 Feb 2011 at 01:09 - 3

Why is your minimap in the upper right?

Move it to the lower right. Problem solved.

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

10 Feb 2011 at 01:17 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirzath

Why is your minimap in the upper right?

Move it to the lower right. Problem solved.

It is the default location and thus many ppl got used to it being there.

/signed.....I as well have been striken by the accidental close.

Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

R/

10 Feb 2011 at 01:17 - 5

Kirzath: That is entirely not the point. That was just an example of how it happened to me, the most recent time. As you can see from Thrilla Killa's experience, it can happen for many different reasons. I've had this happen before many times, like when I'm switching between windows and accidentally hit the button when trying to click the window behind it. The point is that it can happen accidentally in many ways, and it would be great to have a way to avoid that.

Kojima

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2010

Home

En Caligne Veritas [DARK]

R/Rt

10 Feb 2011 at 01:20 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirzath

Why is your minimap in the upper right?

Move it to the lower right. Problem solved.

I think I like the minimap in the upper right for access. easier for me. So putting it lower right makes me do things slower. So I /sign.

A L F

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Tha Moon :D

The Vanguard Avengers [AnvG]

D/A

10 Feb 2011 at 03:16 - 7

:O yes, that would be nice! a warning if u accidentaly try to close client, like are u sure to close gw without log off?? go ahead anet, HELP US D:

Rites

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2010

Deep in the belly of Texas

R/

10 Feb 2011 at 03:22 - 8

/signed

although this late in the game I doubt they will do anything

and I moved mine to left side cuz i kept "over-reaching" and closing out

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

10 Feb 2011 at 05:01 - 9

Yea I agree, something I try to multi task while in an explorable area, opening my inventory and moving stuff and I have a bad habit of moving the window to the upper right hand corner where everything is.

/signed, if not for GW, then definitely GW2.

MalibuBarbie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2010

Canada

Ugly Ducklings[ugly]/Sombreros

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10 Feb 2011 at 05:12 - 10

I completely agree with this idea. Been a few times that I have accidentally closed Guild Wars by mistakenly double-click slipping on closing a browser or something while I am Windowed.....its rather annoying that it just shuts down without asking if its okay.

/Signed

_Aphotic_

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2010

Muppets Versus Muppets [MvM]

P/A

10 Feb 2011 at 05:59 - 11

/signed

Give me a good and constructive reason not to.

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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10 Feb 2011 at 06:11 - 12

/signed

I definitely think it's a good idea.

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

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10 Feb 2011 at 06:28 - 13

/signed

Many times I have closed GW instead of inventory, or whatever else I was trying to close.

Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

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10 Feb 2011 at 07:27 - 14

This seems to be pretty overwhelmingly agreed upon. My question is, since the Anet people don't necessarily read these forums, what would be the best way of getting such an idea across to the people who could actually decide whether or not to implement it? Do Anet employees actually lurk on this forum and check out all the ideas suggested here? (I highly doubt it).

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

10 Feb 2011 at 07:34 - 15

Id hate to say it but ... its too far into gw for anet to do anything and like many great suggestions all they will remain is great suggestions.
I like the idea myself - just one question , when you accidentaly closed gw did you try and restart it asap as most of the time when ive done a fast quit ive managed to reconnect to the zone and party i was in ( thank god for gw reconnect when it does work lol )

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

10 Feb 2011 at 07:38 - 16

though I have never done it, it does sound like a good idea
/signed
(would also like one when/if someone else logs in while you are on--do you want to log off since another is trying to signon this account?)

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

10 Feb 2011 at 07:39 - 17

If you want it to be seen you can put it on the wiki.

Like on Stumme's page for example: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:John_Stumme

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

10 Feb 2011 at 08:17 - 18

Cannot believe I haven't seen this idea mentioned any time in the last 5 years.
Its such an obvious improvement and I don't believe it can be that big a job to add even at this late date.

Signed

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

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10 Feb 2011 at 08:54 - 19

/signed because i'm always inattentive and this already appened to me a couple of times.

akelarumi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

E/

10 Feb 2011 at 09:23 - 20

Never had problems with it, but still would make common sense so

/signed

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

10 Feb 2011 at 10:00 - 21

I don't think that it's a bad idea, but

a. It's something you can avoid pretty easily by not misclicking.
b. I imagine people hit alt+f4 trying to weapon swap almost as often.
c. I'm sure people will be complaining in a week about how they couldn't close the game in time for whatever reason (trying to dodge parent aggro on a slow computer, trying to save a survivor (yes, I know that zoning to GH is more reliable), etc.).

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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10 Feb 2011 at 13:45 - 22

Well, if they complain about not being able to close the client quickly, then that's a good opportunity to tell them that if they close the client they may still lose survivor.
And I can't think of any other reason why they would need to quickly close the client.

And as long as it's an General option you can toggle, they can't complain since you can enable or disable it.

Anshuri

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

Sweden

Children Of Horrigan

N/Me

10 Feb 2011 at 15:34 - 23

/signed

Have had this happen a few times. Fortunately i havent closed myself out of anything important, but its still annoying.

Becca

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

Scotland, UK

Jade Reapers [JD]

Mo/W

10 Feb 2011 at 16:40 - 24

/signed

I won't provide a reason as i think there are plenty reasons above me ^_^

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

10 Feb 2011 at 17:29 - 25

/signed
I've closed GW meaning to close an open browser window or something else so many times I can't even count. Confirm logout, why not close client?

North Dragon Slayer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2008

USA

W/A

10 Feb 2011 at 17:33 - 26

I myself never closed out by trying to flag heroes, but a few times did it trying to close out of friends/guild page. I definetly agree

for the Alt+f4 comment, thats really hard to do by accident....

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

10 Feb 2011 at 21:28 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by North Dragon Slayer

for the Alt+f4 comment, thats really hard to do by accident....

Not really. It makes a lot more sense than misclicking. Misclicking is an accident caused by your mouse slipping. It's definitely possible that someone will be holding alt to see where their allies are and then see the need to switch weapons. I've never done it myself (I don't pvp much and weapon swapping isn't particularly significant in pve), but I'd say it could definitely happen. I know where the buttons I need to press are, but I don't usually care which ones they are, so if GW randomly closed I'd have to think about which buttons I pressed.

Anyway, there's no reason to not have this, so /signed.

Also, I read somewhere (no idea where so I can't provide a quote) that Anet can't read Sardelac for legal reasons. If you really want to get something implemented you'll have to post it on somewhere official like the wiki.

Nalia

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

USA

Psychic Distraction [PD]

11 Feb 2011 at 08:31 - 28

yes. i too think we need more confirmation messages for things we have told the software or game to do. there are not enough 'are you sure?... are you sure youre sure?... are you really really sure?' style messages as seen when clicking Yes boxes when loading into a new area. lets please make this game more windows users friendly and add more confirmations for our actions please.

JupiterStarWarrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2008

Oklahoma City

Noble Order Of Valiant Angels

Me/

11 Feb 2011 at 10:21 - 29

Honestly, I don't like the confirmation dialogues on any of my programs. One such program asks "Do you want to exit <program name>?" And I always think to myself "If I didn't want to exit, I would not have pressed the X or pressed Alt+F4." I don't want any of my other programs to ask me that either. And this includes Guild Wars. So...

/notsigned

Sorry.

rb.widow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

11 Feb 2011 at 12:25 - 30

Ive never had this personally happen to me, but a guild mate did this in Urgoz one night by accident, thinking he was closing his inventory.

The x out in the top right should be treated as a log out button.

/signed

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

11 Feb 2011 at 21:13 - 31

Perhaps if people don't like the extra confirmation box Anet could allow reconnects (within 2 minutes or so) for players who close the client without logging out first. That way no one gets bothered by the extra click and people who accidentally click the x have a small window of time in which they can log back in. Don't know how possible that is or whether it's exploitable or not though.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

11 Feb 2011 at 21:16 - 32

I have actually done this once or twice.

But still, its not exactly a common problem.

CrustyEarl

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2009

Order of the Sacred Tongue

E/A

11 Feb 2011 at 21:39 - 33

Honesty I don't understand why there is an X at the top corner to begin with. There is a legitimate logout option so why have this? I would vote to just remove the button all together, then no problems, and much easier to implement.

/signed

And for survivor chicken mode escape, well, that seems more of an exploit option that I would frown upon. If your going to Die your going to die suck it up and re-roll. :P

Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

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11 Feb 2011 at 22:46 - 34

Crusty: there is an x at the top because it is on all programs, not just GW. The Close, Minimize, and Maximize/Windowed buttons are on all programs (on the upper right on Windows, and on the upper left on Macs, iirc). I don't think that's something GW has control over...
Also, if that button wasn't there, how would you ever close the client?? Logging out doesn't close out of GW...

lorazcyk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

guildwiki.org/User:Lorazcyk

Mo/

11 Feb 2011 at 23:12 - 35

/signed, but make it as a OPTION in F11.
I hate it when programs keep asking stupid questions like that.

What I did since the very first time I played Guild Wars, was put the Menu on the upper right corner. That way you'll never click [X].

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

11 Feb 2011 at 23:20 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailina

Crusty: there is an x at the top because it is on all programs, not just GW. The Close, Minimize, and Maximize/Windowed buttons are on all programs (on the upper right on Windows, and on the upper left on Macs, iirc). I don't think that's something GW has control over...
Also, if that button wasn't there, how would you ever close the client?? Logging out doesn't close out of GW...

The vast majority of games played in fullscreen don't have those buttons, they just appear on the windows when played in windowed mode. But GW has them also in fullscreen and in all the years of playing clicking that X accidentally has happened to me once or twice. I would definately like if there was a confirmation just like with logging off, but the best way to implement it would be as a toggle in options.

SH4D0WZ0MB1E

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2009

12 Feb 2011 at 16:33 - 37

/signed

Seems like a good enough idea. As someone suggested, I would also vote to have the buttons removed. I think GW is the only game I've played that has those buttons when in full screen.

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

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12 Feb 2011 at 21:51 - 38

/signed

I like the idea, maybe combine it with the log-out box (log out, change character, close game, cancel). I get asked half a dozen times if I'm ready to enter an outpost in Cantha, so why not get asked if I accidentally hit the 'close game' x in the top right of the screen?

Chasing Squirrels

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

13 Feb 2011 at 19:36 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

I don't think that it's a bad idea, but

a. It's something you can avoid pretty easily by not misclicking.
b. I imagine people hit alt+f4 trying to weapon swap almost as often.
c. I'm sure people will be complaining in a week about how they couldn't close the game in time for whatever reason (trying to dodge parent aggro on a slow computer, trying to save a survivor (yes, I know that zoning to GH is more reliable), etc.).

So make it a toggable option not hard....

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

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14 Feb 2011 at 12:44 - 40

/signed to make it an option you can toggle in F11. I personally get annoyed by the pop ups on "This mission contains characters from other campaigns, do you wish to continue?" etc. Make it an option and that way the survivors can still rapidly escape, people who don't like pop ups don't get bugged by it and those who mis-click won't.

I doubt very much it'll be added but that seems like the most sensible solution for everyone. You'll still get people who don't realise it's an option and QQ that they closed the client or can't turn the message off but you can't please everyone :P