CrYWay -- Dervish variant of 100b [FoWSC]

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Nightmare's Facade [FEAR]

18 Feb 2011 at 04:31 - 1

Here is the final build of the FoWSC Dervish Variant. It was developed and tested by the [AtF] Alliance. Those who wrote the build are listed below (alphabetical order):

Dervish Lambros [CrY]
Final Fallen [AtF]
Rs Brandonf [CrY]

Those in the test run are listed below (as in party list):

Dervish Lambros [CrY]
Rs Brandonf [CrY]
Tribulation Hurts [CrY]
Lady Of Darcness [CrY]
I Pakachem I [CrY]
Great Mistborn Vin [CrY]
Final Fallen [AtF]
Awareness Sin [GOLD]

So there are the credits, and here is the CrYWay variant of 100b:

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Have fun, I personally preferred it much more over 100b. Have fun, and ask myself (Dervish Lambros) in game for anything if you have questions. A guide shouldn't be needed. The advantage of this build was that all balls go down nicely, including small groups.

Images:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=158avee&s=7
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11bnqk1&s=7

Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnXKQKFMl-k (UA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfNydc9XpYE (Derv)

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 Feb 2011 at 04:38 - 2

cool. nice to see how fast you guys responded to update and tried this out. looks fun

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

18 Feb 2011 at 04:42 - 3

Haha I love it, couldnt a few this be changed around for the better tho, or is that the final conclusion you guys came out with?

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Nightmare's Facade [FEAR]

18 Feb 2011 at 04:43 - 4

Thanks guys, it worked extremely well when tested, so we don't need to test further. Try it out and tell us what you think, but we think you'll be surprised at the clean spikes, especially with small groups.

Mind Abuse

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

18 Feb 2011 at 04:49 - 5

Genius Are Rits In Before Inmitators

Cryway #1

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

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18 Feb 2011 at 05:25 - 6

Those spiker bars are horrendous. Conviction is pointless. Eternal Aura is pointless. Whirlwind attack should be replaced by Eremite's. Ebon escape dropped for death's charge. IAU for fleeting. Extend enchants is completely unnecessary as VoS is already maintainable under cons.

Seriously, think through your bars a little more before posting please

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Nightmare's Facade [FEAR]

18 Feb 2011 at 05:35 - 7

conviction - higher health to take stress off UA

eternal aura - res and take stress off UA

whirlwind attack - strikes for higher damage AND doesnt remove an enchantment. if it were to remove an enchantment this would be Vow of Strength, alul?

ebon - we want whirlwind and we dont have any other shadow step because not assassins

extend enchantments - doesn't only lengthen VoS, but also fleeting, which lasts a VERY short time. Also, we don't want to recast mid spike

fleeting stability - not a title track, if we could take IAU we would, but already maxed out those areas

think through your comments before posting? test the build posted please before writing irritating posts.

iay1455

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2010

Invasion

Terra Noise [Zraw]

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18 Feb 2011 at 05:37 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambros

Life Bringing

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18 Feb 2011 at 05:39 - 9

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

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18 Feb 2011 at 05:48 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Life Bringing

Take stress off the ua? lol? You basically have 2 splinter weapons going, nothing should live after the spike, ever(nothing lives with 1 spiker and 1 splinter tbh). WWA does about 5 extra damage, and you dont even have any adrenaline gaining skills. The only thing that knocks you down in fow is Spike trap, which triggers twice, meaning it would burn through fleeting and still knock you down. Abyssals also knock down at first tower and in forge too, which is why it's good. I'm not saying variants can't be used, but this was used and spikes were amazing. Just did a 20 minute main team run (pugs) with 2 people running the build posted. It improves on the manly spike, and works in a faster time.

DC is rarely essential. For 90% of the run, the MT is with you, and I still see 100b's today bringing EE.

Not saying you can't take your own variant, do as you please. I'm just trying to share what worked for myself and others, with great results. WWA is good but I don't like how enchants are removed.

Life Bringing

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18 Feb 2011 at 06:00 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambros

Abyssals also knock down at first tower and in forge too, which is why it's good. I'm not saying variants can't be used, but this was used and spikes were amazing. Just did a 20 minute main team run (pugs) with 2 people running the build posted. It improves on the manly spike, and works in a faster time.

DC is rarely essential. For 90% of the run, the MT is with you, and I still see 100b's today bringing EE.

Not saying you can't take your own variant, do as you please. I'm just trying to share what worked for myself and others, with great results. WWA is good but I don't like how enchants are removed. derp, dunno how i forgot abyssals. Anyways, i seriously doubt spikes were fast considering you have no adrenaline gaining skill. Your spikes consisted of 2 autoattacks before you could actually spike anything, which is slow as hell. Your build would be greatly improved by using something along the lines of this:

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Conviction is eremite's fodder. Heart of Holy Flame to kill off bonds quickly(not all maintanks can get these in unfortunately). I'm not entirely sure what to put in the open slot. Perhaps pious restoration to remove SS, another attack skill, or something like staggering force or dust cloak for the cracked armor/blind.

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Nightmare's Facade [FEAR]

18 Feb 2011 at 06:02 - 12

iay1455 -- this is for you man:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qthn46&s=7

Life Bringing - I like it if emerite's takes off Heart of Holy Flame or something, that's not too bad an idea. Conviction I've had people tell me is great for removing conditions like blind and cripple from traps, so that is a must. Life Bringing, I like your ideas, but try the build I've put up as it is. I have had PUGs saying spikes were extremely fast. There were numerous times throughout the run where the other dervish didn't even reach the spike because of the speed. Hopefully this will lead to something even better, but I'm pleased the dervish actually has a role in speed clearing now. Please do me a favour though and test this build as posted, it is very clean and PUG-friendly.

Rites

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2010

Deep in the belly of Texas

18 Feb 2011 at 06:08 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambros

think through your comments before posting? test the build posted please before writing irritating posts. alas good luck on the so-called "ELITE" in these forums trying out a new build. Criticizing is all they know how to do.

Calista Blackblood

Permanently Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Northern Ireland

Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]

18 Feb 2011 at 06:20 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rites

alas good luck on the so-called "ELITE" in these forums trying out a new build. Criticizing is all they know how to do. Life Bringing hasn't posted anything that isn't true.This is Campfire, criticism is expected.

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

18 Feb 2011 at 06:24 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rites

alas good luck on the so-called "ELITE" in these forums trying out a new build. Criticizing is all they know how to do. It was constructive criticism so try not to take offense ya?

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Nightmare's Facade [FEAR]

18 Feb 2011 at 07:15 - 16

Thanks for the advice, we did rush into this, so work will be done along the way.

Testing this at the moment: OgejkyrM7QkXfb4O0kmXEYNX2XA

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

18 Feb 2011 at 14:49 - 17

Oh, I thought it was a revitalization of "cryway".....you know "cry of pain"....the one that's been called "cryway" since the skill came out...so ummm yeah...not trying to be rude here, just noting the name has already been accepted by the community to mean something else.

Volo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

WTS +10vs Demon duo-modded Shields

18 Feb 2011 at 15:07 - 18

why not take Staggering Forge, instead of imbue health? faster recharge and if this is anything like normal manly spikes monks dont do much...well with a decent team that is

MikSan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Poland

[HM]

D/Rt

18 Feb 2011 at 15:16 - 19

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Eremite's attack strips Conviction so u eventually loses blind in forest, Whirlwind is not really needed.

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

18 Feb 2011 at 17:20 - 20

This is what I think will be best for derb spike fowsc

Vow of Strength
Sand Shards
Staggering Force
Deaths Charge
Conviction
Erenites Attack
Lyssa"s Assault
IAU

Life Bringing

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18 Feb 2011 at 17:38 - 21

I still don't like that bar. Extend and imbue are extremely pointless. I would rather see Shroud of Distress(discovered this on record runs, it's amazing for top of forge) and either an attack skill or some kind of utility/teardown in place of them.

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

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18 Feb 2011 at 19:02 - 22

SoD seems interesting so it would go on the derv to stay alive against the rangers in forge right?

Life Bringing

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18 Feb 2011 at 19:30 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acolyte Firestar

SoD seems interesting so it would go on the derv to stay alive against the rangers in forge right? Yes, top of forge and anywhere else that there isn't enchant removal. Even on a rit with 60al+cons it becomes nearly impossible to die on top of forge.

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

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18 Feb 2011 at 20:19 - 24

Nice, and the extra attack once again lol Lyssa's Assault, Im gonna stand by this skill.

Life Bringing

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18 Feb 2011 at 21:03 - 25

Well, the only thing that might be leftover is going to be the mop target, which makes lyssas kind of meh. I'm thinking that there are better options for cleanup.

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

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19 Feb 2011 at 03:47 - 26

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Tell me what you think. Skill 6 is an optional. Spikes are quick nonetheless.

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

19 Feb 2011 at 03:59 - 27

Now thats something I can settle for, the SoD idea was great, and with Victorious Sweep it will make it that much easier on the monk.

Lambros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Nightmare's Facade [FEAR]

19 Feb 2011 at 06:57 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acolyte Firestar

Now thats something I can settle for, the SoD idea was great, and with Victorious Sweep it will make it that much easier on the monk. Yer well it works nicely regardless, but small things do help it. I liked the second attack today when I tested this build -- it helps a LOT for smaller groups and individual foes. Personally, I prefer extend enchantments because you don't need to cast VoS so often (e.g. in Forest).

I recommend you test with and without extend enchantments though, tell me what you think. But I'm glad we have come to an agreement

Tender Care

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2008

Blackwater Park

MpF

24 Feb 2011 at 17:26 - 29

i really don't like those builds.....too many enchantments....as if in FoW there were no enchantment removals -.-

Fawxy Lawxy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

Mrs. Boase has returned. Respect the beard.

Me/E

01 Mar 2011 at 03:16 - 30

Grow up and run DwG like an adult.