Useful new dervish build in PVE.
fairyblend
The buff for dervish are really strong compared to the older version. My main elite skill before was only Wounding Strike on any map unless they want me to tank which is ridiculous considering warriors are better. Dervishes stands alone at the front or mid line wether support, DPS or tank. the update for dervish made everything possible for me.
When i play PvE I always go for hard mode and that always gave me problems when it comes to damaging tough (high armored and damage) monsters especially dungeons and elite maps, not without having Deep Wound but now I can just throw almost any build combined with Aura Slicer. My favourite PvE/PVP Wounding Strike has now +x damage and most of the useful enchants are flash making the dervish stronger than before. Being interrupted for me is no longer a problem when casting AoE at groups, bomb dervish before uses casting time and they have to stand still to do it, that was inconvenient for me because I have to setup myself first (cast while not being interrupted) before i can do another bomb.
PVP?? check the Guild Battle nowadays you'll see derv in it now.
When i play PvE I always go for hard mode and that always gave me problems when it comes to damaging tough (high armored and damage) monsters especially dungeons and elite maps, not without having Deep Wound but now I can just throw almost any build combined with Aura Slicer. My favourite PvE/PVP Wounding Strike has now +x damage and most of the useful enchants are flash making the dervish stronger than before. Being interrupted for me is no longer a problem when casting AoE at groups, bomb dervish before uses casting time and they have to stand still to do it, that was inconvenient for me because I have to setup myself first (cast while not being interrupted) before i can do another bomb.
PVP?? check the Guild Battle nowadays you'll see derv in it now.
kristalghost
Oke quick question.
I'm a casual player and I just made my first dervish since I heard the update made it more interesting.
I was wondering what you guys would suggest for a second profession for a dervish after the update.
thanks in advance,
Kristalghost
I'm a casual player and I just made my first dervish since I heard the update made it more interesting.
I was wondering what you guys would suggest for a second profession for a dervish after the update.
thanks in advance,
Kristalghost
Axel Zinfandel
Dervishes are fairly self sufficient as a profession on their own, so /W if only for Save Yourselves!
Im hard-pressed to find a build better than pious Renewal builds though. Strength of Honor wont affect dervs in forms. lyssa isnt all that great in my eyes. Could be a bit better if it affected all dervish spells.
Wounding Strike builds seem to be underestimated and underrated. It got a straight up buff provided you can strip enchants. Plus it is SoH friendly as well.
I find myself to be seriously underestimating the dervish's ability to generate adrenaline though.
Im hard-pressed to find a build better than pious Renewal builds though. Strength of Honor wont affect dervs in forms. lyssa isnt all that great in my eyes. Could be a bit better if it affected all dervish spells.
Wounding Strike builds seem to be underestimated and underrated. It got a straight up buff provided you can strip enchants. Plus it is SoH friendly as well.
I find myself to be seriously underestimating the dervish's ability to generate adrenaline though.
kristalghost
thank you for the quick answer
El Gargoyla
I'm currently trying this one out;
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It works out pretty well for larger groups, with Zealous Vow as energy management and Sand Shards and Armor of Sanctity for dmg around you.
Any comments on this? Or improvements?
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It works out pretty well for larger groups, with Zealous Vow as energy management and Sand Shards and Armor of Sanctity for dmg around you.
Any comments on this? Or improvements?
El Gargoyla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon
No Mysticism?
Pay full price for enchants while continuing to be shatter bait? (if zealous is stripped your SOL) No IAS? This looks like a build from pre update. There are much better options, both for dealing damage and managing your energy as a Dervish. Okay, thanks for the comment. It's true what you say..
Pay full price for enchants while continuing to be shatter bait? (if zealous is stripped your SOL) No IAS? This looks like a build from pre update. There are much better options, both for dealing damage and managing your energy as a Dervish. Okay, thanks for the comment. It's true what you say..
crucifix
vow strength + sand shards will deal with about anything in pve. 12+1+2 earth, 8+1 myst, 9+1 scythe. Might be 10+1 scythe or 9+1 myst, I don't recall exactly. Staggering force + wearying is the best way to set it up for the ca and dw.
angryteen
Been tinkering with my derv after the update, and if u are looking for a simple, elegant and solid AOE dps build, not dissimilar but superior to the ZV build before the patch,
AoHM+Pious Renewal+Pious Fury+ Spammy teardown skills will rock your world
AoHM+Pious Renewal+Pious Fury+ Spammy teardown skills will rock your world
uby
if you want to feel like a god, try going as D/E with Avatar of Lyssa, Zealous Renewal, Kinetic Armor, and teardowns. 160'ish base armor, fully maintainable as long as you aren't knock-locked. use a +20% enchant mod.
Johnny_Guapo
I think most of the "useful" Dervish PVE builds have been discussed/mentioned already, but I'd just like to say that Pious Renewal Spammer is SO much fun to play. The build in the sticky is pretty much the exact same setup I use and it rocks. Beyond that, I'm becoming a fan of Onslaught. I usually bring Rending Aura, Brawling Headbutt, and Test of Faith. I call it the "Onslaught Toucher". I tend to stay away from Avatars because I like to use Orders on my heroes, but Lyssa's probably my favorite for the quick recharge of tear-down enchantments and energy management.
Personally, I like the new Dervish update. It gives new ways to play the class. Is the new Dervish "better"? I'm not sure...but I like playing it more
Personally, I like the new Dervish update. It gives new ways to play the class. Is the new Dervish "better"? I'm not sure...but I like playing it more
reaper with no name
Quote:
Originally Posted by angryteen
Been tinkering with my derv after the update, and if u are looking for a simple, elegant and solid AOE dps build, not dissimilar but superior to the ZV build before the patch,
AoHM+Pious Renewal+Pious Fury+ Spammy teardown skills will rock your world Actually, Pious Spam (as I like to call it) is inferior to the attack skill spam builds of yesterday. But those builds no longer work, so it's irrelevant. The Asuran Scan change nerfed all melee more or less equally. But yes, Pious Spam is the successor to those old scythe builds.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...t10470398.html
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/n...t10470365.html
Hmmm...my thread's a little out of date. I recently discovered that despite the lack of synergy with AoHM (and the fact that you need a zealous scythe for it instead of a vampiric), Banishing Strike is still better than Irresistible Sweep. Yep, Banishing is that overpowered. That's one skill that's really flown under the radar.
AoHM+Pious Renewal+Pious Fury+ Spammy teardown skills will rock your world Actually, Pious Spam (as I like to call it) is inferior to the attack skill spam builds of yesterday. But those builds no longer work, so it's irrelevant. The Asuran Scan change nerfed all melee more or less equally. But yes, Pious Spam is the successor to those old scythe builds.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...t10470398.html
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/n...t10470365.html
Hmmm...my thread's a little out of date. I recently discovered that despite the lack of synergy with AoHM (and the fact that you need a zealous scythe for it instead of a vampiric), Banishing Strike is still better than Irresistible Sweep. Yep, Banishing is that overpowered. That's one skill that's really flown under the radar.
Zyph
After some peer pressure I finally switched from a Grenth's Onslaught build to a Pious Teardown build. I'm very impressed. My only complaint is getting used to hitting Pious Renewal before practically everything, but I'm sure I'll get used to it after some more practice.
FoxBat
reaper with no name
Yes, I know it replaces your base damage, and no, it does not replace all buffs (only those that rely on physical damage). It will still trigger a vampiric mod, for example. And while yes, it does have less synergy with barbs and MoP and the like, it has more synergy with buffs that don't rely on physical damage (splinter, GDW, SoH), since you get more hits in the same time period. Naturally, BS might be inferior (or even more superior) depending on the team's buff setup (and that's what variants are for; I've got like 5 or 6 versions of Pious Spam), but this is for a general (no particular buffs) version.
There's not much to be said about it. It's just that powerful. It's more or less a holy damage version of the old Mystic Sweep or Eremite's Attack (possibly better, since this is skill-based holy damage, which ignores armor) with an even quicker recharge time. Despite the lack of synergy (and the loss of a vampiric mod), it ends up being better than IS (mainly because you get 2 BS's for every IS, I would think).
If you're not convinced, I can post my spreadsheet data (though I'll have to clean some of the extraneous garbage out of it from other calculations I've done first).
There's not much to be said about it. It's just that powerful. It's more or less a holy damage version of the old Mystic Sweep or Eremite's Attack (possibly better, since this is skill-based holy damage, which ignores armor) with an even quicker recharge time. Despite the lack of synergy (and the loss of a vampiric mod), it ends up being better than IS (mainly because you get 2 BS's for every IS, I would think).
If you're not convinced, I can post my spreadsheet data (though I'll have to clean some of the extraneous garbage out of it from other calculations I've done first).
heavenlight
I have been using pious derv in HM for a while now and I like banishing strike more than irresistible sweep mainly due to its low recharge. With IS, there is always a time-window where I find myself with no attacking skills to use but not so much with BS. Besides, the difference in damage between BS and IS isn't really that much due to the high armor of HM foes.
As pointed out by reaper, BS stacks with all the buffs (and IATS). Of course, if you're running Shards of Orr, BS is a no-brainer.
As pointed out by reaper, BS stacks with all the buffs (and IATS). Of course, if you're running Shards of Orr, BS is a no-brainer.
Vadog
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Works fine with Splinter's Weapon and SoH
Works fine with Splinter's Weapon and SoH
FoxBat
Yeah I misremembered. Apparently I thought that because DPS vs MoD did not actually change at all when using the skill vs not. Granted it will be better against HM armor levels, but that's not encouraging. And bring HoHF on undead level. On pious you're better off with wearying, TMS, FGJ as a trio amyway if you just want damage, thanks to the AoHM procs.