Avatar of Grenth isn't as good as before

Immune to disease and spread disease is really not as good unblockable attack and 5 more life drain. Why others got buffed?

I thought Lyssa's new one sucks terribly. I don't like the new avatar state at all.
Oh well, though. What can ya do?

It cost less energy and it only takes 1 skill slot as opposed to 2 skill slots.

Additionally scythes attack faster now which means more life steal triggers.

people just try it ,it took me and my guild 30 secs of QQ to get over it and try a new builds

im running

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this build with a +3 scythe rune and my health is a very nice cushion of 950 and i was able to push it to 1150

of course its not gonna be the same they CHANGED 90% of the skills

after the 30 secs of qq we made new builds and ran a GodWay build (as close as we could with only 3 god avatars) and steam rolled FoW

Quote: Originally Posted by Moonstalker

I thought Lyssa's new one sucks terribly. I don't like the new avatar state at all.
Oh well, though. What can ya do? I really like the Lyssa's. I run through a few factions missions just spamming flash enchantments like crazy and stripping them off as fast as I could. Lots of AoE damage, cracked armor, blindness, and other pure awesomeness. Good stuff.

if avatar of melandru already makes your attacks earth, why bother with dust cloak? unless you are just using it for the effects

i think that grenth form is a bit overpowered with grenth auta...
in FA i can win full life 3vsMe, the only problem is a ss with parassite too...or another dervish :P
other that i can win vs all other class 1vs1 any build they have (exluding monk because the damage output insufficent to make a heavy pressure, but not so bad).

Avatar of Grenth with Grenth's Aura seems to be hitting for quite ferocious armor ignoring damage. Combine that with a life stealing scythe and you have a recipe for some serious damage. I'm going to run some more numbers on this however, but this seems to be the best armor ignoring damage I can output. Meh.

Great.... Just Great...
Skills are getting nerfed and buffed faster than a baby needing a new diaper...
I just hope that PVX wiki makes sure that the old builds gets either deleted or updated.

Try this for an AoG build, probably it's not as effective as some of the other builds but it's quite fun and has a decent damage/life stealing output

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Avatar of Grenth + Aura of Grenth and a couple of earth prayers enchantments like mystic regeneration and conviction is the latest version of the wammo on steroids; and this one can dish out some decent damage and conditions.

How about using avatar and aura of Grenth with daggers and the skill vampiric assault. You could also buff with order of the vampire and nightmare weapon on a hero. Perhaps something like this:

Dervish/assassin
Avatar of Grenth
Grenth's aura
Golden phoenix strike
Vampiric Assault
Impale
Zealous renewal
Pious Fury
Optional

+

Necromancer/Ritualist
Order of Vampire
Nightmare Weapon

Not sure about the attribute split which seems a little sketchy.
In 2 dagger attack at 33% IAS this setup deals about 500 damage + another 100 from Deep Wound. Also note that you can take the new intimidating aura to counterbalance major runes in wind and mysticism. I have not tested it yet so I cant say for sure but the build has also the potential to hit really hard in between spikes since you still get the life stealing of your weapon, the order,the aura and the avatar which is about 51 with 33% IAS and double strikes. You should be almost impossible to kill as well.

Another way of abusing Avatar of Grenth this time with a scythe:

5x Dervish/Warrior
Avatar of Grenth
Grenth's aura
For great justice
Brawling Headbutt
Rending Aura
Twin moon slash
Heart of Fury or Pious Fury
Eternal Aura

Imbagon

ST Rit with Earthbind

Necromancer/ranger
Order of Vampire
Symbiosis

I think avatar of Grenth has strong potential!

@bichon: grenth aura works only for scythes

in any case grenth+grenth aura+intimidating aura= 30/35 life steal hit + 8/9 damage reduction + new armor from mysticism (11/12)

it is a toucherAttack

Oh really? Lol my bad

Quote: Originally Posted by IoneB

Try this for an AoG build, probably it's not as effective as some of the other builds but it's quite fun and has a decent damage/life stealing output

OgGjkuqKrSjewXIYdflbPX7gqiA Damn! That's fantastic. This might be my new favorite Derv build. Thanks.

Quote: Originally Posted by bichon

Dervish/assassin
Avatar of Grenth
Grenth's aura
Golden phoenix strike
Vampiric Assault
Impale
Zealous renewal
Pious Fury
Optional wont work because grenths aura/form need a scythe but mystic vigor is a really great choice for heals when you hit