Or lacking imagination?
I've met a young German player about a month ago. I think I just sold him a tome or two. Given my guild hall is practically empty, I started occasionally playing with the guy, since at least he plays.
But the more I play with him, the more suspicious he seems to me.
446 hours played, he said today. 446 hours, over 16 moths, and yet he already walks around in Obsidian armor with Chaos gloves and Blindfold, has a full HoM weapons monument including 4 tormented weapons, a Zaishen monument displayed in HoM, a ton of miniatures...
He also doesn't seem to be much of an experienced player. While he does fly around the place with a discord hero team, so it's conceivable that he's done much himself. But he only finished Factions and Nightfall this month (so, no DoA farming to explain those tormented weapons).
He blindly buys every elite tome I sell him at 2k/tome (I sell them cheap since he's a co-player and I can complete the transaction in like 5 minutes) in spite of claiming he's not a PvP player (how would he unlock the skills then?). He's already buying sapphires and amber for more armour suits.
I mean, I know I'm no farmer, but I'm seriously beginning to think that 446 hours is a wee bit little to be THAT rich. I mean, it BROKE me to get that Zaishen a while ago, I had to sell every valuable material I had. I know I stretch my efforts across too many chars, got 10 triple protectors.
But, really,I think this is suspicious. Of course, I suspect RMT or something, and if he's willing to risk it, his problem. But I dare not make him a gift, and even worry of my discounts!
Am I paranoid, and could he have been that efficient? Or had that generous guildies (hell, my guildies could be, I gave money and mats for atheir first elite armors to several and all, and I give away my spare minis and mats and all to them)?
Any thoughts?
Suspicious GW friend or am I just paranoid?
Iuris
Ninja Dude
He power trades.
Thrilla Killa
It's a bit suspicious, but it's not totally impossible. When i wasn't working, i would play pretty much all day every day. Hours to a casual gamer are different to a hardcore player. Back then, i would chest run constantly (back when it was actually profitable, pre- inscription age and early days of factions) and make a couple hundred plat each day selling Sephis Axes, Magmas Shields, Dead Bows from Hell's Precipice runs, when these items were actually rare. Maybe this guy was doing some dungeon runs and got some decent drops. A BDS or 2 a few months ago was fetching 250e+. That easily covers Chaos Gloves and a set of Obby Armor and a few sets of Torment items. He could of been really lucky, or he power trades. I wouldn't worry too much about trading with him, unless he's selling you high end items for like 5k. You wouldn't get banned just for gaming with him. But, if you do see very suspicious activity, i would screen shot it and report it to Anet so it's some evidence to help you out.
Shayne Hawke
If you suspect something, you can report him, and if nothing happens, nothing happens.
Kaloff THE overlord
maybe your just bad at making money
novawhiz
446 hours is a ton of hours. And its not like some minis, torm weps, and obby armor is that expensive. Theres nothing to suspect about this guy. You dont even know that his /age report is true. You dont know anything about him, except hes german and runs a hero setup 90% of gw runs.
And of course he buys all your elite tomes for 2k/ea. I would. Buy 2k ea, sell 6k++ each. No mystery there.
What i dont understand is why you play with this random guy you just met through a small trade one time
And of course he buys all your elite tomes for 2k/ea. I would. Buy 2k ea, sell 6k++ each. No mystery there.
What i dont understand is why you play with this random guy you just met through a small trade one time
rb.widow
Can be done, i got a friend of mine into the game, but because of the time zone difference of nearly 12/13 hours we dont see each other on alot unless its at weekends, anyway, when we caught up about 3 weeks after him joining he had already finished Proh, Factions and NF, and he was nearly done with EoTN, about 2 weeks after that he had his chaos gloves, he seen them one day asked about them, and how to get them and boom, like its been mentioned already in this topic, he just power traded his way to it.
Iuris
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If you suspect something, you can report him, and if nothing happens, nothing happens.
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EDIT: get myself into trouble by, for example, giving him materials and similar as gifts and then triggering myself as an RMT...
Lishy
You're over-analyzing. Besides, maybe he's just some lucky dude who won the lottery.
Internetuser
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Originally Posted by Iuris
I bloody well don't want to report him, he's a new FRIEND, dammit. I'm just worried that if he is, I could myself get in trouble...
EDIT: get myself into trouble by, for example, giving him materials and similar as gifts and then triggering myself as an RMT... |
If it helps, I told Gaile gray myself that I duped yellow dyes and nothing happened to me
go cubs
It is possible to buy the pvp skill pack via the in game store so that could be how hes unlocking skills, Also within 446 hours you could easily have a ton of money if you trade and even just casually play. As for me, i didnt even beat factions until 3,000+ hours into playing guildwars because i thought it was hard (lol). I was pretty much a noob until then as well, so its not that hard to believe he doesnt know about the actual game that much.
I had plenty of money before i knew what the heck i was doin in this game mostly because i power traded and got a ton of money before i even beat the game.
I had plenty of money before i knew what the heck i was doin in this game mostly because i power traded and got a ton of money before i even beat the game.
ruk1a
he probably just baal bots with his hdin
gremlin
A certain level or paranoia is normal you enjoy playing with the guy "who may just be reading this thread btw" so carry on.
Does it really matter how he has what he has maybe he has more than one account.
I certainly wouldn't consider reporting him as some have suggested.
Just as I do not want to live in a society where everyone is suspicious of others and report their activities to the authorities so I would not want this game to go that rout.
The time to report is when someone does something to you personally everything else is someone else's responsibility.
enjoy the game
Does it really matter how he has what he has maybe he has more than one account.
I certainly wouldn't consider reporting him as some have suggested.
Just as I do not want to live in a society where everyone is suspicious of others and report their activities to the authorities so I would not want this game to go that rout.
The time to report is when someone does something to you personally everything else is someone else's responsibility.
enjoy the game
turbo234
1. He buys gold
2. Good power trader
3. Really lucky farmer
2. Good power trader
3. Really lucky farmer
Chrisworld
Maybe he has other good friends in real life who gave him stuff? Maybe he inherited the account from someone who no longer plays? Those hours are 18.5 days straight, btw.
Given what you posted here, he's ethier, as I said, wealthy from account inherentence, or a good friend he doesn't mention.
OR
He knows what he's doing, lying to you about being new to get free stuff or does infact RMT ... Or bot.
LOL... Getting into a game witg one of those was like striking gold. I used to power level with them for years.
Given what you posted here, he's ethier, as I said, wealthy from account inherentence, or a good friend he doesn't mention.
OR
He knows what he's doing, lying to you about being new to get free stuff or does infact RMT ... Or bot.
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he probably just baal bots with his hdin
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Deviant Angel
If you think he's rolling in cash, why on earth are you selling all your elite tomes to him for 2k? I'd do like another poster said and gladly scoop them up to resell as well. You're like a gold mine for a power traders if you're willing to practically give away your stuff! Wanna be friends? 
Also, you never specified if the 446 hours were on the account or character. Did he? He may be playing on an alternate account. People with awesome stuff aren't always awesome players and everyone isn't honest. Wouldn't it be a bad idea to tell people you're rich if they are willing to give you discounts and freebies for being a newbie?
Another possibility is that he really is fairly new and managed to get a few lucky drops. It's also possible that he bought gold. Why not ask him where he's getting all that cash? I don't feel offended when people ask me how the I managed to afford the things I have. A little pathetic... but not offended.
Report him and/or try to distance yourself from him if you think he's up to no good.
Also, you never specified if the 446 hours were on the account or character. Did he? He may be playing on an alternate account. People with awesome stuff aren't always awesome players and everyone isn't honest. Wouldn't it be a bad idea to tell people you're rich if they are willing to give you discounts and freebies for being a newbie?
Another possibility is that he really is fairly new and managed to get a few lucky drops. It's also possible that he bought gold. Why not ask him where he's getting all that cash? I don't feel offended when people ask me how the I managed to afford the things I have. A little pathetic... but not offended.
Report him and/or try to distance yourself from him if you think he's up to no good.
novawhiz
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Originally Posted by turbo234
1. He buys gold
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He has Obby armor, choas gloves, blindfold (lol), 4 tormented weps, and r3 zaishen. In 446 fcking hours of gameplay (if thats even true).
Now just some quick estimate math:
I dont know what minis has, but at most it seems like hes accumulated 3mils worth of stuff in 446 hours of playing. Why is that so unbeleivable?? Thats like 5k/hour of playing which is what you get just doing random missions and vanqs. Not to mention any farming or any of the abusive event quests/farms
Leave the poor guy alone. Why the hell would you be suspicious of him and post here about it.
And if you are so suspicious why do you fuel his income by selling him tomes at 2k/ea.
And if he is a botter/RMT then hes a terrible one at it. Over a year of hax0rs and only 3mil to show for it? lol...
Make some real friends in guildwars. dam.
Bankei Chinshu
You are being paranoid... :P
Iuris
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Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight
I don't like people like you OP. Mind you own business in any case ( gold buyer or not)
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BenjZee
Just hope hes not a guru user as things coudl get awkward
AngelWJedi
i dont get it. you said you dont wanna report him since he is a friend then why ask us for advice? either he does something bad report it or dont but i dont think you need us to tell you that. maybe he could've gotten lucky with drops and he couldve play a lot like say 10 hours a day to get those items. or he say play awhile back while said items were cheap and only now came back to game? *shrugs*
Tommy's
Perhabs he has some sugar uncle 
Perhabs he has gotten all his stuff from a real life friend who quit. Or like others say, he just gotten it himself. If you know what to spend your money on and what not, you can get all that stuff in 460 hours. Or he won a contest perhabs? I did not have any tormented weapon, I entered a contest hosted by [DL] and I won the second prize, and the next day I had 15 tormented weapons. People can get lucky. And its not too hard to find PvX wiki after 460 hours. I would't look too much behind it. Things are hardly ever the way they seem.
Perhabs he has gotten all his stuff from a real life friend who quit. Or like others say, he just gotten it himself. If you know what to spend your money on and what not, you can get all that stuff in 460 hours. Or he won a contest perhabs? I did not have any tormented weapon, I entered a contest hosted by [DL] and I won the second prize, and the next day I had 15 tormented weapons. People can get lucky. And its not too hard to find PvX wiki after 460 hours. I would't look too much behind it. Things are hardly ever the way they seem.
AndrewSX
Dropped Polar bear during 2010 Wintersday or was soo much lucky to have access to one of that rare minis that you can get only with promotions. In other words, thigs that with only a lot of luck bring you thousands of ectos in a sec.
PurpleFission
Why dont you just ask him?...
Morphy
He's german, that makes him suspicious by default lol.
Jesuve
Just leave that guy alone. Anyway, if you sell him elite tomes for 2k/ea, he can easily sell them for much more money...
There's nothing suspicious. Maybe you are paranoid.
There's nothing suspicious. Maybe you are paranoid.
asb
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He's german, that makes him suspicious by default lol.
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No seriously, if you consider him your friend, just ask him how he acquired all this stuff in such a 'relative' short amount of time.
Iuris
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i dont get it. you said you dont wanna report him since he is a friend then why ask us for advice? either he does something bad report it or dont but i dont think you need us to tell you that. maybe he could've gotten lucky with drops and he couldve play a lot like say 10 hours a day to get those items. or he say play awhile back while said items were cheap and only now came back to game? *shrugs*
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With guildies, I don't mind, I've known them for years. He's a bit of an unknown. And in case he does read this, his first problem will be explaining to me why he claims not to speak english...
Lihinel
You are selling him tomes for 2k each and wonder why he has money? XD
Most of them can be sold ingame to get 200-400% of your investment, even more if he uses a german GW Auction site with buy out options.
Some goes for minipets, buy a bunch of c.rabbits ingame from players that want to make a quick buck and continue playing and sell them a week later for 150-300% or more.
If he has got more friends like you, he could go into RMT and save up for his kids collage fees.
Most of them can be sold ingame to get 200-400% of your investment, even more if he uses a german GW Auction site with buy out options.
Some goes for minipets, buy a bunch of c.rabbits ingame from players that want to make a quick buck and continue playing and sell them a week later for 150-300% or more.
If he has got more friends like you, he could go into RMT and save up for his kids collage fees.
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Originally Posted by turbo234
1. He buys gold
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True story about how my friend has multiple chars with obby armor and chaos gloves without paying a single ectos.
Also, you're giving him a steep discount for all you know he's turning around and selling everything you sell him in Kamadan for a little profit.
Is it possible he mean on that char not on the account?
Is it possible its an alt account he had and had been somewhat messing around with the HoM on and then his main got banned? I myself have an alt I'm working on getting to at least 30/50 in case something happens to my main (i.e. people actually start reporting me for my RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing language)
Theres any number of possibilities. Relax. Breathe in. Breathe out. Hold 10 mins. Now that you're dead can I has your stuff?
Del
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Originally Posted by Iuris
He blindly buys every elite tome I sell him at 2k/tome (I sell them cheap since he's a co-player and I can complete the transaction in like 5 minutes) in spite of claiming he's not a PvP player (how would he unlock the skills then?).
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Sankt Hallvard
It's your morale imperative to report him. They made the /report function so that we would all aid the Anet Council by keeping our eyes open, always vigilant and meticulously observing for "abnormal behaviour". His suspicious behaviour confirms quite clearly that he's hurting the GW economy, an indirect if not direct cause of your own poverty. And I bet he has a big nose and a great lust for money too. Those people should be interned in camps IMO.
beerelf
If it's not a second account he/she is a Gold buyer for sure.
Lots of people on here will boast that they can farm 100k in two minutes but it's plain rubbish. Hence the 'its so easy to get obby armour and 10 BDS's and have 2 million in the bank in that time' comments.
One of my favourite boasts I hear is 'I normally get 3-4 ecto drop just clearing the chamber.'
Lots of people on here will boast that they can farm 100k in two minutes but it's plain rubbish. Hence the 'its so easy to get obby armour and 10 BDS's and have 2 million in the bank in that time' comments.
One of my favourite boasts I hear is 'I normally get 3-4 ecto drop just clearing the chamber.'
Erik Fox
Simple answer, he's reselling your tomes. Jesus, some of those fetch 10-12k in the right place.
Del
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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard
It's your morale imperative to report him. They made the /report function so that we would all aid the Anet Council by keeping our eyes open, always vigilant and meticulously observing for "abnormal behaviour". His suspicious behaviour confirms quite clearly that he's hurting the GW economy, an indirect if not direct cause of your own poverty. And I bet he has a big nose and a great lust for money too. Those people should be interned in camps IMO.
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If it's not a second account he/she is a Gold buyer for sure.
Lots of people on here will boast that they can farm 100k in two minutes but it's plain rubbish. Hence the 'its so easy to get obby armour and 10 BDS's and have 2 million in the bank in that time' comments. One of my favourite boasts I hear is 'I normally get 3-4 ecto drop just clearing the chamber.' |
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Simple answer, he's reselling your tomes. Jesus, one of those fetch 10-12k in the right place.
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Anshuri
He could as well be lucky to have maybe more friends who are rly helpfull and supply him with materials and other things he need to progress fast and fill his HoM. I have a friend who is very genergous and he's given me mats, items, consumables etc worth loads of money simply because he doesnt need it himself. Quite recently got handed all the mats i needed for Vabbian armor, including the money for the crafting. Time and time again i've tried to give stuff back as repay but he insists i dont have to, all he wants is a nice friend to play with.
I dont see anything too suspicious about what he've accomlished in that time. Tho if you're realy curious and dont want to accuse him of anything, you can ask in a bit of a joke-ish way when you notice he has something new that's expensive, or ask if he has any tips on how to make money.
I dont see anything too suspicious about what he've accomlished in that time. Tho if you're realy curious and dont want to accuse him of anything, you can ask in a bit of a joke-ish way when you notice he has something new that's expensive, or ask if he has any tips on how to make money.
gremlin
I think your really just asking for reassurance.
If the majority of replies said he was crooked you would probably talk yourself into reporting him.
But I really think your hoping we will come up with a reasonable explanation that makes him out to be innocent.
I think most of us have passed on making that decision for you.
If the majority of replies said he was crooked you would probably talk yourself into reporting him.
But I really think your hoping we will come up with a reasonable explanation that makes him out to be innocent.
I think most of us have passed on making that decision for you.
LifeInfusion
mini polar bear; rollerbeetle
also halloween contest (MKG), Wintersday contest (reindeer)=0hours ingame.
Do I win the thread?
also halloween contest (MKG), Wintersday contest (reindeer)=0hours ingame.
Do I win the thread?
novawhiz
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mini polar bear; rollerbeetle
also halloween contest (MKG), Wintersday contest (reindeer)=0hours ingame. Do I win the thread? |
He has 2-3mil worth of stuff in over a year of playing. what is so hard to believe about that.
firelink
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Or lacking imagination?
I've met a young German player about a month ago. I think I just sold him a tome or two. Given my guild hall is practically empty, I started occasionally playing with the guy, since at least he plays. But the more I play with him, the more suspicious he seems to me. 446 hours played, he said today. 446 hours, over 16 moths, and yet he already walks around in Obsidian armor with Chaos gloves and Blindfold, has a full HoM weapons monument including 4 tormented weapons, a Zaishen monument displayed in HoM, a ton of miniatures... He also doesn't seem to be much of an experienced player. While he does fly around the place with a discord hero team, so it's conceivable that he's done much himself. But he only finished Factions and Nightfall this month (so, no DoA farming to explain those tormented weapons). He blindly buys every elite tome I sell him at 2k/tome (I sell them cheap since he's a co-player and I can complete the transaction in like 5 minutes) in spite of claiming he's not a PvP player (how would he unlock the skills then?). He's already buying sapphires and amber for more armour suits. I mean, I know I'm no farmer, but I'm seriously beginning to think that 446 hours is a wee bit little to be THAT rich. I mean, it BROKE me to get that Zaishen a while ago, I had to sell every valuable material I had. I know I stretch my efforts across too many chars, got 10 triple protectors. But, really,I think this is suspicious. Of course, I suspect RMT or something, and if he's willing to risk it, his problem. But I dare not make him a gift, and even worry of my discounts! Am I paranoid, and could he have been that efficient? Or had that generous guildies (hell, my guildies could be, I gave money and mats for atheir first elite armors to several and all, and I give away my spare minis and mats and all to them)? Any thoughts? |
I have played my warrior for 2 hours since then farming UW, and have amassed well over 20 ectos.
It is sickly easy to make money if you put the time in.