FoWsc and VoS

sand shards & ermites makes mobs fall Um, FYI, elemental damage does nothing in HM, so goodbye sand shards being useful. and whirlwind attack does more damage than eremites.

All in all, the 100b and the VoS are equal in spiking ability, its MoP that kills the mobs anyway. I think that the 100b is a bit faster at spiking though because in case the derv forgets, he needs to use extend enchantments, VoS, and air of superiority. I honestly have no preference to either, they are about the same. derv has more dmg with constant 100b, warrior has more defense with a shield

Um, FYI, elemental damage does nothing in HM, so goodbye sand shards being useful. and whirlwind attack does more damage than eremites. 1. Elemental damage has nothing to do with it, its armor-ignoring vs armor-respecting damage that matters.

2. Sand shards does such huge damage that even after armor reduction its pretty respectable. Even against 100 armor foes its a good 150 damage nuke. Your average caster is at 80-ish armor, and most warriors are around 105-110ish. It would suck if you were an ele who took 2s to cast it, but its a free insta-cast damage enchant that only adds to what you are doing. That makes it good.

The difference between Whirlwind and Eremites is basically not there. You don't use either for their + damage, you use them for the attacking all enemies feature. If Whirlwind did +0 damage you would hardly notice the difference. You don't see many enemies living with 3 health left because your Eremites didnt have the extra damage, you see them with half their health left because they weren't hit with the full damage of your attack.

1. Elemental damage has nothing to do with it, its armor-ignoring vs armor-respecting damage that matters.

2. Sand shards does such huge damage that even after armor reduction its pretty respectable. Even against 100 armor foes its a good 150 damage nuke. Your average caster is at 80-ish armor, and most warriors are around 105-110ish. It would suck if you were an ele who took 2s to cast it, but its a free insta-cast damage enchant that only adds to what you are doing. That makes it good.

The difference between Whirlwind and Eremites is basically not there. You don't use either for their + damage, you use them for the attacking all enemies feature. If Whirlwind did +0 damage you would hardly notice the difference. You don't see many enemies living with 3 health left because your Eremites didnt have the extra damage, you see them with half their health left because they weren't hit with the full damage of your attack. I am aware that the damage of ww attack and eremites does not matter, but the person who was trying to argue that VoS was better decided to say that it mattered. And if you don't use eremites and ww attack for their plus damage, then what is sand shards there for? a measely 150 extra damage on a full spike is nothing. 100b warriors did without it, so why should it be taken on a VoS? MoP is what does most of the damage on a spike anyway. and don't even try to tell me that sand shards is good on the smaller mobs. it isnt. the damage is basically non existant there.

Elemental damage is armor respecting damage. with exception to a few skills such as ancestor's rage. So it is relevant.

VoS dervs can do the spike a bit slower but much better bc it packs in a bit more dmg and doesnt need MoP at all(only if u got 2 VoS from my experience). T3way uses 3 terras no MoP and 2 VoS dervs. And SandShards is my fav. spiking skill You dont even need a 2nd dervish if you have a good spiker which has perfect equipment he can solospike with only ebsoh.