Update - 2/28

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Well that's odd. Update on a monday?
Anyone know anything yet..

c_ras

c_ras

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Eternal Deliverance

R/

Bug Fixes

* Fixed a bug that caused Nicholas the Traveler to spawn out of players' reach.

hitsuji182

hitsuji182

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Poland

The Autonomy [?????????]

Mo/A

Bug Fixes

* Fixed a bug that caused Nicholas the Traveler to spawn out of players' reach.

Arutima

Arutima

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Canada

R/

so, nothing really useful.

wtb 7 heroes update and melee ai update

GrimmNinja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

Society of Souls [Argh]

A/

DAMN..
you guys got me so fricking excited....

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arutima View Post
so, nothing really useful.

wtb 7 heroes update and melee ai update
It's coming in March, supposedly. 2nd week would be my guess.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Beware the Ides of March!!

Chasing Squirrels

Chasing Squirrels

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
It's coming in March, supposedly. 2nd week would be my guess.
March 2015 right?

Metatail

Metatail

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
It's coming in March, supposedly. 2nd week would be my guess.
Didn't Stumme say that something is gonna happen in the first week of March and it's gonna be few things at once?

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metatail View Post
Didn't Stumme say that something is gonna happen in the first week of March and it's gonna be few things at once?
Yeah, he did. But they never make their deadlines, so I doubt it.

It was supposed to release in February.

vandevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Great State of Denial

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
Yeah, he did. But they never make their deadlines, so I doubt it.

It was supposed to release in February.
Well, the Dervish update took a lot of time to do, so I'm inclined to cut the devs a little slack here.

It'll come; either this week or next...

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metatail View Post
......first week of March and it's gonna be few things at once?
who knows. i was checking his wiki page and don't see a quote. but i remember the "two things" in Februry. He did say it will help PvE more with a UI in this this update?

Quote:
It's mostly a PvE update, with some UI related things that could benefit PvE/PvP. The PvP feature we've been working on will likely have its own build release. (UTC)
http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?...uild_and_ PvP

vader

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metatail View Post
Didn't Stumme say that something is gonna happen in the first week of March and it's gonna be few things at once?
Well, first week of March is tomorrow so that means it will be in Thursday's update?

I would guess we'll see it on the 10th or 17th.

tcratty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

6 feet under

forever angels

E/

lol 7 hero update how did all us veterans do it with just 4 heros

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty View Post
....l us veterans do it with just 4 heros
the same way the Pre-heros Venterans did it before us with only hencman

Pony Slaystation

Pony Slaystation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Cardboard Box

Guilds are irrelevant. This... is...... BUILD WARS!!!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasing Squirrels View Post
March 2015 right?
I lol'd. This is most likely the case though.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty View Post
lol 7 hero update how did all us veterans do it with just 4 heros
Umm..Veterans only have three hero's, unless i'm doing it wrong.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

Would be nice to have it come out the second week of my March, would be a nice birthday present to me from Anet haha.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

We... we just got a completely new profession with only 4 people working on it, and you guys are already complaining about stuff being late.

Jeez, even KJ is being more optimistic than all y'all....

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Heck..I would trade the 7/hero update for an Everlasting Gwen Doll!!
Can't wait for April 1st

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok View Post
We... we just got a completely new profession with only 4 people working on it, and you guys are already complaining about stuff being late.

Jeez, even KJ is being more optimistic than all y'all....
I'm a pretty optimistic person, believe it or not.

And John seems to like some of my rants when I'm not, so I'm going to count those as optimistic as well.

X Dr Pepper X

X Dr Pepper X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

How now brown cow.

This is interesting...

Lets hope it is indeed the hero update. It'll make playing Dervish more fun with a really amazing hero set up.

Triple Derv and Triple Para and 2 randoms is what I'm gonna run. Awwww yea.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

NOOOOOOO!

I wanted to build a Fort Ranick style catapult and LOB collectables at him.

:cry:

da mahius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2010

Rip of the Golden Pheonix [RoP]

E/Mo

Veterans without Hero's (Before Nightfall came out) had it easy. Crappy Henchmen or form a PUG. Most went with PUG, heck I was in one just for one quest to get to Kaineng City. PUGs doing quests? Long dead. (Except for Elite Areas like UW, FoW and DoA)

Im Gunna Run Sabway + Spiritway at the SAME TIME, and a few Dervs to mix things up a bit. Unless the update is released on April 1st as sumone said.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Wouldnt surprise me if it came as part of the 6th birthday update which isnt 2 far away now.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by da mahius View Post
Veterans without Hero's (Before Nightfall came out) had it easy. Crappy Henchmen or form a PUG. Most went with PUG, heck I was in one just for one quest to get to Kaineng City. PUGs doing quests? Long dead. (Except for Elite Areas like UW, FoW and DoA)

Im Gunna Run Sabway + Spiritway at the SAME TIME, and a few Dervs to mix things up a bit. Unless the update is released on April 1st as sumone said.
uw has stones you need to find pugs, fow i dunno, doa has "you must have *** builds/heroes" attitude (which all have anyway)
so i prefer 7 hero teams at all, except for deep and urgoz(scroll down), as those may be too hard or impossible (for me) with just heroes and no players (seen em both once)

anyway, glad nicholas got fixed, and yea, lets hope the 7 hero will be this week then all my GW chars will be used again (even my melee, which i'm bad at)

its about UI usage, well, 7 hero teams is that, but maybe some more useful stuff for at least pve, maybe "GH showing pve OR pvp versions of skills" or other ideas which will help

i have faith in stumme (which i didnt have at previous anet krews)

lets wait a bit longer then

ps. its weird(not really), stumme first said: get ready to fill up your team with heroes at the survey, yet this is on his wiki talk:
Quote:
It's 7. The Elite areas for Factions were very particular in their design, that different party members would need to do/bring certain things. Having people trying to solo them is just going to highlight that, and make for a limiting/frustrating experience. I think it's ok to say that there are some places that you still need to bring a friend along, especially considering the number of places people can get to that they couldn't before they had 7 heroes. John Stumme 17:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
but its just those 2 areas and you can do with 2 players now, instead of needing 3 players

thought i'd give this info, in case

i'm just as happy as before i read this

Enchanted Krystal

Enchanted Krystal

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2011

In a Kurzick retirement village, reminiscing about Magmas shields......

GW1 ???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????] ~ GW2 Teh Academy [PhD]

D/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by chessyang View Post
the same way the Pre-heros Venterans did it before us with only hencman
Yes, yes, and Nicholas & Yakington did it all by themselves, just ask them.

..but i can't wait for the update

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Vets had it "easy" mostly because hard mode didn't exist, and henchmen didn't exist in elite zones either. The horrible henchmen builds could barely handle normal mode, running them in HM is just asking for trouble.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Krystal View Post
..but i can't wait for the update
i don't know each time i ask them he keeps asking for trophy's. but he did survive the searing! that's hard core =]

anywho i can't wait for the update! plz be this Thursday!

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

So what's Embark Beach all about? Oh, I'm the only person to remember about that. My bad.

Don't hold your breath with 7 heroes until at least after St.Patrick's Day. Oh, I'm the only person to remember about that event too. My bad.

Kudos to those who remembered too.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by tcratty View Post
lol 7 hero update how did all us veterans do it with just 4 heros
I wasn't aware using heroes period made you a veteran.
Back in my day all we had was henchmen and we were fine with it...well except for Alesia. Wh they haven't made Alesia not suck I don't know. I'll probably still take henchmens after the update because they're guaranteed to be able to take care of practically anything under the sun if you use them right. Best of all you don't need to give them runes or even spend time copy n pasting builds or coming up with builds. They just work.

It's more like "Save Yourselves" how did all us veterans do it when we had to actually take damage.

Quote:
Vets had it "easy" mostly because hard mode didn't exist, and henchmen didn't exist in elite zones either. The horrible henchmen builds could barely handle normal mode, running them in HM is just asking for trouble.
Normal mode was harder before Hard mode existed and then the updates that followed that nerfed Normal mode even further. Henchmen builds kept getting fluctuated by PvP skill balances that happened rather frequently and so henchmen bars could be unstable at times. Though Mhenlo was always a boss and still managed to keep you alive while Alesia caused a wipe. Henchmen have been pretty stable in terms of defeating things as long as you had a longbow, excluding Alesia.
The real reason vets had it harder is because we couldn't flag henchmen. Now if shit hits the fan, you can make the henchmen bail no questions asked.

obastable

obastable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
Vets had it "easy" mostly because hard mode didn't exist, and henchmen didn't exist in elite zones either. The horrible henchmen builds could barely handle normal mode, running them in HM is just asking for trouble.
I don't know what game you were playing, but I do recall back in 2005 is was easy as crap to run through GW with henchmen. I made myself a lot of money charging people 200k for a run through Prophecies, which was easily done with myself + henchies. I've never had an issue with the AI, I just paid attention to how it worked and made it work for me. Pugging wasn't my first choice for doing things, pugging is what I did when I was bored and looking for a change of pace. I feel the same way about 7 heroes that I do about 4 - they have their uses for a percentage of the player base, but it's really not necessary & makes an already easy game even easier. I suppose for some this will increase the "fun" aspect, but for me it's really nothing to write home about.

Star_Jewel

Star_Jewel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2010

Denizen of Tyria since Feb. 2009

Since it was partially slipped in to the last update, I'm hoping the "xp since death" thing will be fully implemented next.

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Stumme
It's mostly a PvE update, with some UI related things that could benefit PvE/PvP.
UI update, hm? Dare I get my hopes up that minions might be easier to target?

Naah, nobody's even hinted at that, and it's not like players are all rabid for such a change.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Targeting minions...if only.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
Wouldnt surprise me if it came as part of the 6th birthday update which isnt 2 far away now.
This actually makes a lot of sense xD, I see this happening vs it coming out next weeks or the week after that.

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star_Jewel View Post
UI update, hm? Dare I get my hopes up that minions might be easier to target?

Naah, nobody's even hinted at that, and it's not like players are all rabid for such a change.

I would love to have such an update. As it stands now a Hero MM is superior to a player MM. The ability to target minions would bring the Jagged Bones bomber build to player necromancers.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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Not that it would affect me too much; I would still use Order of Undeath.
Although I would like the feature nonetheless.

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o View Post
Umm..Veterans only have three hero's, unless i'm doing it wrong.
2 players. 1 player has 3, the other adds one.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

hmm I've always used 6 heroes though I play with 2 accounts. only challenge is using 2 keyboards and 2 mice at the same time. not that hard considering I used to play 4 accounts on City of Heroes at the same time.