LDoA less painful

beerelf

beerelf

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

UK

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So Pre is due to have daily quests allowing LDoA achievable without hours and hours of death levelling.
I'll be sure to roll a new Pre toon for this, but I do have some sympathy for those who achieved it the harder way.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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Yep, i'll be rolling a character for this. I find doing quests, even repetitive dailies, way more fun than uh...dying. Just have to decide on whether to make a Mesmer or Ele now.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

The real challenge is getting it on a paragon. Now THATS impressive.

khios

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2009

Even more you can now achieve LDoA & LS! Amazing isn't it, it's a shame no one thought of it since yesterday! :P

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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I think people who got it will still be happy. Normally people who get it are rather mature.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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wait they adding stuff to Pre? i though (somewhere on wiki) it was a stone they were never going to move after Nick? OMG

Timey

Timey

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

Battle Toadz

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Ok I think I'm missing something here, where was it said there'll be daily quests in pre?

Ascended Furling

Ascended Furling

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

Netherlands

Shiro Utsuri[Koi]

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Im so happy about this news. Every time i could i asked for this and now its almost here^^
My char is lvl 15 and i have done some death lvl sessions but i did not like gaming that way so my char was stuck in pre for 2,5 years now.
Im only curious about the quests. what amount of xp will we get. Hope not that much. and will there be rewards like zaishen coins where u can get higher armor pieces or so. Gold is useless in pre so i hope we dont get that from the quests.

And costumes in pre is something i hope they implement in ascalon with the HoM npc.

But we will see when the update is here.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

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Originally Posted by Timey View Post
Ok I think I'm missing something here, where was it said there'll be daily quests in pre?
There are a couple of threads about the Feature Build in Riverside.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

See thread about developer updates on this forum. As for feeling sorry for the stuff the predecessors went through. I feel none, they did very little in the actual game most of the time, it was gather up charr, walk away for the night/day etc then kill them. Gather up, walk away again. Not really impressed with that.

But I am glad they are going to make it a bit easier to accomplish.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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And finally, a good reason to go in parties in pre.

Now I wish the area was for parties of 4 since the beginning.

Ascended Furling

Ascended Furling

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

Netherlands

Shiro Utsuri[Koi]

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ahhh.. the 2 party i forgot. i was hoping to do it with 2 other guild members. then i will be doing it dual account.

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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Quote:
Originally Posted by chessyang View Post
wait they adding stuff to Pre? i though (somewhere on wiki) it was a stone they were never going to move after Nick? OMG
This is the guild wars revelation baby! Things we thought would never happen!

7 heroes?
Pre quests?
Overhauls of entire classes?

ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE!

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE!
Yes! Total! I'm glad John is listening to the player and really helping players play the game! props!

i need to find that picture from reddit saying F yeah! and Haters gonna Hate!

Lasai

Lasai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

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Finally makes sense. Legendary Defender never seemed appropriate as a title for dying over and over, not even defending yourself, much less ascalon.

One quest a day it is still going to take time.

ajc2123

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
Finally makes sense. Legendary Defender never seemed appropriate as a title for dying over and over, not even defending yourself, much less ascalon.

One quest a day it is still going to take time.
The best defense is a good......death?....no no your right. Still doesn't make sense.

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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I am annoyed everytime they make a title easier - who wants to play GW2 if you know that if you wait for 5 years they will have made the whole thing so easy you can do it in a week?

They should at least change the title name when they change a title so much.

They should have implemented a good way of getting LDoA when the introduced the title. Changing it now is fooling no-one - got to make it easy for the attention-deficit kids to get 30/50 so they buy GW2.

They should just give every char every title at creation and be done with it ^^

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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Originally Posted by Aeronwen View Post
I am annoyed everytime they make a title easier - who wants to play GW2 if you know that if you wait for 5 years they will have made the whole thing so easy you can do it in a week?

They should at least change the title name when they change a title so much.

They should have implemented a good way of getting LDoA when the introduced the title. Changing it now is fooling no-one - got to make it easy for the attention-deficit kids to get 30/50 so they buy GW2.

They should just give every char every title at creation and be done with it ^^
Actually they are just making this title harder! Actually having to do something instead of dying constantly is hardly considered easier.

This was an insane title to go for from the get go. There's insane difficult, or insane time, and this wasn't the first option.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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yeah they could have just changed the name to legendary DEATH-leveler of ascalon and be done with it

but yeah might dust off my perma-pre characters and let them do something beside sync dancing.

Hobbs

Hobbs

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Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeronwen View Post
I am annoyed everytime they make a title easier.
Last time I checked, playing the game is harder than leaving it idle while you do something else. For all you know, the amount of time it takes to do enough dailies to get LDoA is longer than the time it took to get it deathlevelling.

This title isn't getting made easier, it's getting more interactive and more fun (this is good).

Ascended Furling

Ascended Furling

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

Netherlands

Shiro Utsuri[Koi]

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30/50 is already easy to get. Got it on a account without spending ingame money or spend a lot of time.

This part of update is just to make pre much more fun. fighting high level mobs with your starter armor(collector armor is a bit better) will be a lot of fun... i hope.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
One quest a day it is still going to take time.
wait wasn't it 9 daily quest? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5xAGxfCKU#t=16m from the interview

FengShuiDove

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

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I'm extremely excited about this. My pre character is my second oldest, and now he'll finally get his title and move on in the world!

Having a title only be obtainable by abuse was always just terrible. This needed to happen.

P.S. Same for Survivor

Lasai

Lasai

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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Considering that the title only came after someone had figured out a way to level to 20.. It should have been "I was Bored and So" title.

Its never been more than a very dedicated unintended use of a game mechanic.

As Stumme said.. now it will come by playing the game.

That is a good thing.

Lasai

Lasai

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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wait wasn't it 9 daily quest? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5xAGxfCKU#t=16m from the interview
Im assuming he meant 9 quests in the rotation.. as later he said one quest a day. Just as the Z missions or WIK bounties, there are a large number of them.. but one a day of each type.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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Originally Posted by Lasai View Post
Wait till the update I guess..
true! any is better then none =]

death level a quest time!

Can't wait! someone hit the "go live" on the servers

Timey

Timey

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

Battle Toadz

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Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
There are a couple of threads about the Feature Build in Riverside.
Wow this makes me very happy ! Plus zaishen vq sounds nice, as I still need to finish Tyria ^^

Aeronwen

Aeronwen

not so much fell as.....

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

bone

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
yeah they could have just changed the name to legendary DEATH-leveler of ascalon and be done with it
but yeah might dust off my perma-pre characters and let them do something beside sync dancing.
Haha , well I would prefer that they changed name to leg death leveller than pretended it was the same.
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Originally Posted by ajc2123 View Post
Actually they are just making this title harder! Actually having to do something instead of dying constantly is hardly considered easier.

This was an insane title to go for from the get go. There's insane difficult, or insane time, and this wasn't the first option.
OK for death levelling u did have to leave your char on dying but you still had to set up the death level and most of the time you would dc during the night. Yes, the title was a pain to do and that’s why relatively few people did it. But the new title is just that – a new title – it wont mean the same as the old one and should at least have a different name.

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Last time I checked, playing the game is harder than leaving it idle while you do something else. For all you know, the amount of time it takes to do enough dailies to get LDoA is longer than the time it took to get it deathlevelling.

This title isn't getting made easier, it's getting more interactive and more fun (this is good).
I agree, this is how it should have been from the start. But it wasn’t, and they have resisted changing it until now. Why? Because more titles (more full HoM's) means more GW2 sales.

And yes I will be rolling a new char for this too :P

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
I think people who got it will still be happy. Normally people who get it are rather mature.
I currently have LDoA. I took a screaming tantrum when I heard this news.

In all seriousness, LDoA is a real electricity burner right now and it's probably a good thing that it will change. John Strumme said that it won't completely devalue LDoA so I think the XP rewards might be a bit stingy or something.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

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In all seriousness, LDoA is a real electricity burner right now and it's probably a good thing that it will change.
This. And dodgy internet connections or GW servers that d/c you in the middle of the night during a deathlevel session.

LordDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

Dragons Den

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about 15:22 in the video "Takes an image of a character as it exists right then..."

Does this mean the mercenary hero cannot be changed at all once it is made? If so, then that might suck majorly. You would have to buy a new slot when skill changes happened.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeronwen View Post
I am annoyed everytime they make a title easier - who wants to play GW2 if you know that if you wait for 5 years they will have made the whole thing so easy you can do it in a week?

They should at least change the title name when they change a title so much.

They should have implemented a good way of getting LDoA when the introduced the title. Changing it now is fooling no-one - got to make it easy for the attention-deficit kids to get 30/50 so they buy GW2.

They should just give every char every title at creation and be done with it ^^
LOL. Pardon me, but saying LDoA is hard is akin to saying the Drunkard Title is hard. It's time consuming, not hard.

This is really great news! Mr. Stumme's regime is really taking the bull by the horns and doing some fantastic things.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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Originally Posted by jazilla View Post
LOL. Pardon me, .
it's hard to have a good ISP and uptime on a computer. i mean err7 is the only killer! just kidding. never saw a value in D/L months on end to get a title and saying your "defended" someone thing.

*LordDragon i'm pretty sure you can delete/recopy the "image" you just made of your self. I think your just playing for how many "images" of your self/character you can buy at a time and place as a merc-hero.

REDdelver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Girls Pee Pee When They See [ME]

N/Mo

So is now the time to make a push for a Xunlai Chest in Pre, sporting just one panel?



I'm curious to find out more about the mercenaries....whether character weapons in hand will apply to each mercenary. Definitely a cool, but not needed function.

Im sure lots of people will be upset considering you have to pay for it, but yet theres been plenty of in-game money and time spent on upgrading existing hero's. In many mind-sets, it might not be worth throwing all that money and time to the side for mercenaries.

I always like options that you don't have to pay to make things easier, but can make your particular gaming experience more exciting.

Lets take one moment to remember, that these micro transactions help Anet progress with GW1 and GW2. I certainly dont mind helping out with that considering going on 6 years worth of no subs.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

LDoA and Drunkard are the two most annoying titles that I can think of right now. It is not that they are hard to achieve, they are just annoyingly tedious and boring.

When the game goes into the "annoyingly tedious boring mechanical do-this-same-boring-task-for-the-next-1000000000-times" mode of playing (aka super grind), is what makes people want to quit playing, except for those with too much time on their hands and dont have a life.

I am a human player, not a bot, so dont ask me to play like a bot.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Rly looking forward for this.. I got my lvl16 permapre i havent bothored play longer cus i dont want deathlvl

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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Originally Posted by REDdelver View Post
I certainly dont mind helping out with that considering going on 6 years worth of no subs.
yep. i'll probably buy 1 or 2 merch-hero slot to support them. And knowing how bad i play i won't want my self a a hero =]

Warvic

Warvic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2009

The Netherlands

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I just hope the xp rewards are extremely low. not to be mean or something. But for people who alrdy got the title it would be lame if u guys can get it within a month or so.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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People should be less concerned about their personal accomplishments being influenced by the accomplishments of others.

Ratson Itamar

Ratson Itamar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

"Flame Shield On!"

I can already see this: "Looking for a lvl2 for the daily quest!", for cheating the scaling. The new gate monkey?

I need to make a pre char now. I will be there for at least 9 days! Longer than I've ever been before
The true LDoA is John Stumme!