Challenge to all the hardcore Pre-Searing people
Coast
It was possible, monk tome +rebirth and 2 accounts.
Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Coast
It was possible, monk tome +rebirth and 2 accounts.
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Coast
Was pretty impressive how he did it,also was possible to get to the storage back then so not rly illegal.
Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Coast
Was pretty impressive how he did it,also was possible to get to the storage back then so not rly illegal.
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Coast
anet did a rly shit job then making this possible /facepalm
Bristlebane
Any pre searing survivor using old glitches like accessing guild hall, storage, tomes etc, there's nothing impressive about it at all. Kudos to thoose that managed rank 2 (or 3?) without exploits, it must have taken some serious efforts and dedication.
Coast
Nah no way, just had/have to do the quests. Pretty much everyone can do it if they can be bothered.
Oofus
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
Until the March 3, 2011 update with the implementation of the Lieutenant Langmar Vanguard quests there was no possible way to reach level 20 without dying without glitches/exploits in Pre-Searing. The best a person could do was level 17 with no deaths.
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Anywho, grats on the level 2 title.
Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Bristlebane
Any pre searing survivor using old glitches like accessing guild hall, storage, tomes etc, there's nothing impressive about it at all. Kudos to thoose that managed rank 2 (or 3?) without exploits, it must have taken some serious efforts and dedication.
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Originally Posted by Oofus
Actually you could technically use a pet, instead of yourself to death level the bosses to the point were killing them granted exp past lvl 16. Took a lot of patience, and time, and you couldn't be afk, but it was/is possible. I did it a couple of times just for sh*ts n giggles. Though if memory serves this was only possible after the pet command update was implemented.
Anywho, grats on the level 2 title. |
Oofus
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Originally Posted by Oofus
but it was/is possible.
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Kelvin Greyheart
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Originally Posted by Coast
It was possible, monk tome +rebirth and 2 accounts.
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Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Kelvin Greyheart
You didn't even need a tome. Rebirth is core, so you can get it at the GH trainer.
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Coast
But it was possible, just like so much other 'bugs' for example necrotic travelsal which apparently never was intended but only got changed after 8 years.
Kelvin Greyheart
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
This about pre-searing. There is no access to the guild hall from pre-searing. There once was, for a short time, however, that was a bug, and was never intended.
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I didn't say it wasn't a bug. I didn't say it was intended. All that was said by coast and myself was that it was possible, and I clarified that a tome was not required.
Flint Lightning
Just to bump this thread up. As of yet no R2-3 surv. I have a few r1's even a skilless I did to prove it wasn't hard. But I haven't tried to continue. Rumor is Nostromos is trying tho. Maybe one other that I know of but they aren't important. I guess I might start I dunno.
Kolinahr
My second Rank 2 Survivor in Pre-searing: I N T U I T I O N.
http://imgur.com/ej48w0O
4 1/4 years since possible, only 2 rank 2 survivors, and no rank 3s yet.
http://imgur.com/ej48w0O
4 1/4 years since possible, only 2 rank 2 survivors, and no rank 3s yet.
TheFrogMan
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
My second Rank 2 Survivor in Pre-searing: I N T U I T I O N.
http://imgur.com/ej48w0O 4 1/4 years since possible, only 2 rank 2 survivors, and no rank 3s yet. |
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
o_O nice done
all i want in pre sear is being lvl 20, for title and fun, but i suck without max armor and heroes, so became e/mo for dmg and some healing/protection
i'm planning on looking for runs for those quests, but i'm afraid the prices are insane, like always in GW
my perma pre char is lvl 10 through powerleveling, but those vanguard enemies are strong
so i forget about it until i see prices being doable (1k per go is alot, as i'd need from almost lvl 11 to lvl 20 exp, and 1k per 1000xp.... is alot to me) for such runs, and in the meantime prepare for dragon festival, i guess
anyway, nice job really
all i want in pre sear is being lvl 20, for title and fun, but i suck without max armor and heroes, so became e/mo for dmg and some healing/protection
i'm planning on looking for runs for those quests, but i'm afraid the prices are insane, like always in GW
my perma pre char is lvl 10 through powerleveling, but those vanguard enemies are strong
so i forget about it until i see prices being doable (1k per go is alot, as i'd need from almost lvl 11 to lvl 20 exp, and 1k per 1000xp.... is alot to me) for such runs, and in the meantime prepare for dragon festival, i guess
anyway, nice job really
Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by TheFrogMan
Wow congrats! That is quite the achievement. I wanted to try it at one point but the lack of drops from the vanguard enemies dissuaded me. Not to mention how ridiculously long it would take. That must have taken some serious dedication. Do you plan on going for R3? Well... Congrats again, that's awesome!
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265 hours for r2, an additional 375 hours for r3.
Motoko
I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.
Wild Rituals
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Originally Posted by Motoko
I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.
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Isn't that only possible through maxing titles in post though.
Markaedw
You can get rank 1 of gwamm in pre. Sweets, drunk and party animal are all available in pre add LDoA and Survivior makes rank 1.
Minions for Life
but what motoko is talking about is the addition of account wide titles.
Which while impressive don't mean jack in pre. Your pre-char had absolutely nothing to do with the kurzick and luxons, blah blah blah all the other account wides.
This being said, I am not discrediting anybody's immense work when it comes to getting many of the account wide titles.
Which while impressive don't mean jack in pre. Your pre-char had absolutely nothing to do with the kurzick and luxons, blah blah blah all the other account wides.
This being said, I am not discrediting anybody's immense work when it comes to getting many of the account wide titles.
Belle Dwayna
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Originally Posted by Motoko
I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.
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So except those who syncj or paid their titles 200€ each, noone will reach this title legitimately.
Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Motoko
I'd say I'm Very Important is a more rare and prestigious title in Pre. I'll give Legendary Survivor a second or third rank. People Know Me is probably above it as well.
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Motoko
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Originally Posted by Belle Dwayna
I'm PKM for years now in pre, but I'm Very Important requires to max at least 3 pvp titles, 4 without Legendary Survivor.
So except those who syncj or paid their titles 200€ each, noone will reach this title legitimately. |
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
I do not understand your logic. There are no rank 3 Legendary survivors in Pre-Searing yet. How can you have something more rare than that? The "potential" exists, not the actual reality, even after 4 1/4 years after the update allowed it to be achieved.
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Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
There are no rank 3 Legendary survivors in Pre-Searing yet.
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plenty lvl 20's in pre i have seen, which some may have that title maxed
maybe some who got both titles are busy in reallife, who knows
i dont care for survivor other than 1 char i have, which is NOT in pre, but some may just go and get it without telling or showing anyone
ps. i dont say you lie, i just say its possible some already have it, but are either inactive due to circumstances or dont show, and just play around in pre, or help others.... or barely are active in pre
i hope i'm clear with this, cuz i mean no offense
Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa
not that i have seen any, and i dont say its not true, but how are you sure there's no rank 3 survivors there? not everyone shows the title most wanted to others, they may show kurz/lux for all they care
plenty lvl 20's in pre i have seen, which some may have that title maxed maybe some who got both titles are busy in reallife, who knows i dont care for survivor other than 1 char i have, which is NOT in pre, but some may just go and get it without telling or showing anyone ps. i dont say you lie, i just say its possible some already have it, but are either inactive due to circumstances or dont show, and just play around in pre, or help others.... or barely are active in pre i hope i'm clear with this, cuz i mean no offense |
This is a topic about the achievement of higher rank survivor title(s) in Pre-Searing. It is not about comparisons between it and other titles which can only be achieved with Post-Searing actions. It is also not about hypothetical possibilities, it is about proven facts backed up with evidence(screenshots).
Gadd Fan
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
No screenshot=no proof=it does not exist.
This is a topic about the achievement of higher rank survivor title(s) in Pre-Searing. It is not about comparisons between it and other titles which can only be achieved with Post-Searing actions. It is also not about hypothetical possibilities, it is about proven facts backed up with evidence(screenshots). |
Also Photoshopped ranks with a so-called screenshot probably exist to fool the naive. Which doesn't mean, in turn, that there aren't real screenshots out there either. Maybe some with people who have quit the game long ago. But just remember that you can't 100% trust a "screenshot" as being a real screenshot.
Only way to "prove" it is if someone currently playing shows up in pre sporting one and you personally see it. But it doesn't mean people in the past haven't done it then left the game.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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Originally Posted by Kolinahr
No screenshot=no proof=it does not exist.
This is a topic about the achievement of higher rank survivor title(s) in Pre-Searing. It is not about comparisons between it and other titles which can only be achieved with Post-Searing actions. It is also not about hypothetical possibilities, it is about proven facts backed up with evidence(screenshots). |
but nvm, stay in that world of yours, and have fun.... bye (shortest time ever that i cared about defending myself, and TRYING to mke something clear)
i guess the "screen or doesnt exist" closed minded people keep existing... and i dont need to make screens for people to believe that
TheFrogMan
I agree with Ayuhmii Shanbwa and Gadd Fan. Absence of a screenshot is not enough evidence to deduce that the title doesn't exist. The only way you could reasonably prove it doesn't exist is if you were able to detect, scan or view every single account in Guild Wars. Proving it does exist would be as easy as what Gadd Fan said.
That being said, I don't believe it does exist. However, there is still the possibility of someone having it and just not showing it. The majority of people in my guild don't show their titles or play with other people, so I'm sure there are other people like that as well.
That being said, I don't believe it does exist. However, there is still the possibility of someone having it and just not showing it. The majority of people in my guild don't show their titles or play with other people, so I'm sure there are other people like that as well.
Tundra
however, I think that r3 survivor would be a prestigious title that you would want to show in Pre. Otherwise, there is no real point of getting in for your own benefit. Title is a title (not only gw titles) after all - achievement you can be proud of. Therefore, if no-one has seen the title, I would agree that it does not exist.
Zephyr of Light
People just bot a vanguard quest till infinity and hey I have legendary survivor in pre.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles.
Infact (me) and probably some others think R1 Zaishen is "cooler" to have then a R12 because wealth is a factor for obtaining it that people dont care for, and not too mention that 95% of those Zkeys were botted anyhow.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles.
Infact (me) and probably some others think R1 Zaishen is "cooler" to have then a R12 because wealth is a factor for obtaining it that people dont care for, and not too mention that 95% of those Zkeys were botted anyhow.
Belle Dwayna
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Originally Posted by Zephyr of Light
People just bot a vanguard quest till infinity and hey I have legendary survivor in pre.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles. |
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Originally Posted by Zephyr of Light
Infact (me) and probably some others think R1 Zaishen is "cooler" to have then a R12 because wealth is a factor for obtaining it that people dont care for, and not too mention that 95% of those Zkeys were botted anyhow.
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Kolinahr
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Originally Posted by Zephyr of Light
People just bot a vanguard quest till infinity and hey I have legendary survivor in pre.
Its that easy, i doubt anyone ingame still cares for the effort taken to get certain titles. |
Effort. Well... at least you said one thing right. That's what this title is all about. Not getting this title honestly would render it meaningless.... because it is about what I ask of myself, and who I have to be in order to reach this kind of goal that is important.
Lord Asakurra
I knew of one guy who had it on the presearing forums back in November of 2010. He rage quit soon after when they updated the method to getting survivor. I believe it was ~4 years it took him to grind out that title, deathleveling with his alt account IIRC, only to have all that effort he put into it mean nothing after the new easy survivor titles.
Gadd Fan
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Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra
I knew of one guy who had it on the presearing forums back in November of 2010. He rage quit soon after when they updated the method to getting survivor. I believe it was ~4 years it took him to grind out that title, deathleveling with his alt account IIRC, only to have all that effort he put into it mean nothing after the new easy survivor titles.
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Belle Dwayna
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Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra
I knew of one guy who had it on the presearing forums back in November of 2010. He rage quit soon after when they updated the method to getting survivor.
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Before the pre update with the add of quests and high level mobs, it was not possible to get survivor.
Indeed, we did death leveling on charrs and the ldoa was taking 3 months to be done. The only one who managed to get ldoa + survivor before the update was a bug from a quest, giving xp without being validated and he had to chose between both titles.
Lord Asakurra
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Originally Posted by Gadd Fan
Rage quit a game over an imaginary title? What a fool he was. Hope he went and got a life.
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Originally Posted by Belle Dwayna
Bullshit...
Before the pre update with the add of quests and high level mobs, it was not possible to get survivor. Indeed, we did death leveling on charrs and the ldoa was taking 3 months to be done. The only one who managed to get ldoa + survivor before the update was a bug from a quest, giving xp without being validated and he had to chose between both titles. |
Again, not trying to antagonize anybody here (I apologize if I am) but there seems to be some misinformation going around that I thought I'd help clarify for those who didn't know.
Belle Dwayna
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Originally Posted by Lord Asakurra
I think you're mistaking "impossible" for "improbable". It was most certainly "possible" to get survivor before the update, however it was definitely "improbable". It was most certainly possible to death level with an alternate account to achieve both LDoA and Survivor pre-update.
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You could use a tome to get a hard rez but it's illegal and hard to imagine (those who used tomes were banned).
Have you ever played in pre ?