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and since you cant use hero skills then its kind alike a hero.
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Update 3rd March - It's here!
Verene
AngelWJedi
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Originally Posted by Verene
I assume you mean that you can't use PvE skills. And, well...duh. Because they are heroes then. That's the point.
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Improvavel
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Originally Posted by AngelWJedi
point is all it is basically is a dress up barbie clone. xD a normal hero works just as good and its free! xD it looks cool but so does a costume.
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Imagine only merc heroes got pve-only skills and then they charged money people couldn't pay to get them.
Would be a big advantage granted by money.
Inasha
And I only had half an hour of drunkenness to go! Actually, it doesn't bother me, because I did my legendary vanquisher while using drunk pve skills, so it's not like I was staring at a stopwatch and twiddling my thumbs the whole time. Got my alcohol for much cheaper than what it's going for now too.
None of this really helps with the last title I'm working on (treasure hunter) but it's pretty cool stuff anyway. Except for the whole paying-for-an-ingame-advantage thing that is the mercs. Hopefully this isn't a sign of things to come in GW2.
None of this really helps with the last title I'm working on (treasure hunter) but it's pretty cool stuff anyway. Except for the whole paying-for-an-ingame-advantage thing that is the mercs. Hopefully this isn't a sign of things to come in GW2.
bursta91
how do i get it so whenever i log out it doesnt resize my kljionb menus to pve locations on my screen. this is very annoying and makes me panic as if i have been hacked
A11Eur0
I hope this serves as a lesson for GW2: even if the devs say early on that something will "never happen" (seven heroes, LDOA + Leg. Survivor, etc), that doesn't mean diddly. All it means is it'll happen "when it'll make us the most money and we're desperate for it."
GG Anet...I hope you put that cash to good use. I'm just fine with my non-paid storage panes, non-paid character models, non-paid armor sets, and non-paid 7 heroes.
GG Anet...I hope you put that cash to good use. I'm just fine with my non-paid storage panes, non-paid character models, non-paid armor sets, and non-paid 7 heroes.
EPO Bot
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I hope this serves as a lesson for GW2: even if the devs say early on that something will "never happen" (seven heroes, LDOA + Leg. Survivor, etc), that doesn't mean diddly. All it means is it'll happen "when it'll make us the most money and we're desperate for it."
GG Anet...I hope you put that cash to good use. I'm just fine with my non-paid storage panes, non-paid character models, non-paid armor sets, and non-paid 7 heroes. |
Zahr Dalsk
Well, after all that time, seven heroes.
I'm just mad I won't be able to experience it.
I'm just mad I won't be able to experience it.
bhavv
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and hey if you just happen to have multiple characters of say necro or rit...you can make a full necro party (or dwg group).....yes I can see peeps making multiples of one prof, merc-ing it, deleting it--make another with a new name, merc it repeat until you have full slots of mercs...then use the heroes of that prof to fill out the remainder....oh yeah, I can see it already (and am not the first to think of it today)
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You already get 3 necros, 2 mesmers and 2 rits, and trust me, replacing the mesmers or rits with more necros will only make your team weaker than what 3 nec, 2 mes and 2 rits can do.
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Well, after all that time, seven heroes.
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Embark Beach Added the Embark Beach location to the Battle Isles. Added new Zaishen Vanquish quests to Embark Beach. |
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Heroes Mercenary Hero Slots are available for purchase from the In-Game Store and the NCsoft Store. Added Mercenary Registrars to the Great Temple of Balthazar, Lion’s Arch, Kaineng Center, and Kamadan, Jewel of Istan. Raised the party maximum on Heroes from three to seven. |
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Pre-Searing Updates New Pre-Searing quests are available from Lieutenant Langmar in Ascalon City. Added Kimmes the Historian to Ascalon City. Added the skills vendor Halbrik to Ascalon City. |
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Title Updates The Drunkard title now awards points based upon the number and strength of drinks consumed. The Survivor title now awards rank based upon the most experience gained between deaths. |
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UI Updates Added an online status drop-down box to the character select screen. Added a "Ready" status drop-down box to the party window. |
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Missing HB
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Why the hating again? you have nothing but benefits from this update. And no Anet is no charity organization, but they might as well be compared to other "free forever" games out there.
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I'm sorry but the only thing i see here is fast and usual not so good job :
- again some series of repetitive quests meant to be farmed ( pre searing ones , vanquish)
- again some paying stuff( which seemed to require more job than the rest)
- nothing about PvP
- change of survivor title is just again an other way to make people busy for few hours farming fronis
etc.. Only positive point is maybe the ability of using 7 heroes , but it still have some flaws...
Tender Care
the only thing i didn't understand is the mercenary hero.....u got one...two....three of u character as heros....i just they will not have pve skills or it's the end of the game....
plus considering few ppl group for doing storyline missions, dungeons etc...now with 7 heroes....i'm gonna try Duncan the Black with 7 heroes right now...for the epicness of the fail of this update...
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Drunkard: i like it, but understand it's too easy now.....
Skill trainer in pre......enough said...
the rest is quite ok....
plus considering few ppl group for doing storyline missions, dungeons etc...now with 7 heroes....i'm gonna try Duncan the Black with 7 heroes right now...for the epicness of the fail of this update...
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Drunkard: i like it, but understand it's too easy now.....
Skill trainer in pre......enough said...
the rest is quite ok....
EPO Bot
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Can we explain the benefits we get ? Do you think people will be grouping to do that zaishen vanquish in 2-3 weeks after 90% of players will have done anything ?
I'm sorry but the only thing i see here is fast and usual not so good job : - again some series of repetitive quests meant to be farmed ( pre searing ones , vanquish) - again some paying stuff( which seemed to require more job than the rest) - nothing about PvP - change of survivor title is just again an other way to make people busy for few hours farming fronis etc.. Only positive point is maybe the ability of using 7 heroes , but it still have some flaws... |
agrios
This update its an insta-win for me. Many desirable features, like the minion interface, central point to go everywhere (embark beach) and last, but not least: 7.Glorious.Heroes.
The only bad thing is, IMHO, the price of mercenary heroes. 10 bucks each (or 45 for the 8 pack) is a bit overpriced. Cut that in half and Id be buiyng the 8 pack.
But a question remains: Why only 8 slots when we got 10 professions?
The only bad thing is, IMHO, the price of mercenary heroes. 10 bucks each (or 45 for the 8 pack) is a bit overpriced. Cut that in half and Id be buiyng the 8 pack.
But a question remains: Why only 8 slots when we got 10 professions?
Missing HB
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So you want an intire new campaign for free or something? This game doesn't even have a fee so be glad with what you get. Anet could have stopped updating after releasing EotN and making shure everything on the disk worked and that would have been perfectly fair.
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Anyway ,you will realize i was right in 2 or 3 weeks....
SongOf
Congrats to Anet for a great patch. My wish is for one day to save/send/load party templates.
I absolutely love micro managing all 7 heroes while playing (esp. in HM), and tweaking my build constantly. It's like GW has evolved into a new game or belongs in a slightly different another genre
I absolutely love micro managing all 7 heroes while playing (esp. in HM), and tweaking my build constantly. It's like GW has evolved into a new game or belongs in a slightly different another genre
Chocobo1
Love the update until I saw $45 price tag on the 8 mercs.
Really? Like I know you love overpricing stuff but honestly I could buy several decent games for that amount of money via steam. Yeah I'm aware that I don't actually need to buy it, but it just feels like I'm missing out on something. I know nothing is going to change and you will just ignore every complaint about the price because of course, you are going to get people to buy it, but it just makes me kind of sad, and fearful of what is going to happen in Guild Wars 2.
I want to support you guys, I really do. But when you pull something like this and try slip it under the radar it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Who honestly believes that it is worth $45 for the whole thing? If you want donations thats fine, set up a nice little donation thing on the character select screen and I am 100% sure people would love to support you. But don't think you have to charge insane prices on items just to get something from us. The huge attraction to your game was the no online fees. Yes, it meant online fees per month, but these micro transactions aren't that different.
Can you even call it a micro transaction when it costs $45?
Really? Like I know you love overpricing stuff but honestly I could buy several decent games for that amount of money via steam. Yeah I'm aware that I don't actually need to buy it, but it just feels like I'm missing out on something. I know nothing is going to change and you will just ignore every complaint about the price because of course, you are going to get people to buy it, but it just makes me kind of sad, and fearful of what is going to happen in Guild Wars 2.
I want to support you guys, I really do. But when you pull something like this and try slip it under the radar it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Who honestly believes that it is worth $45 for the whole thing? If you want donations thats fine, set up a nice little donation thing on the character select screen and I am 100% sure people would love to support you. But don't think you have to charge insane prices on items just to get something from us. The huge attraction to your game was the no online fees. Yes, it meant online fees per month, but these micro transactions aren't that different.
Can you even call it a micro transaction when it costs $45?
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Love the update until I saw $45 price tag on the 8 mercs.
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It's a way to allow people to buy in bulk and save some money unlike if they bought one at a time. The pack is made cheaper than if you bought one at a time so if people wanted to, they could buy a big pack like that.
When you think about it like that, the $45 is perfectly fair imo
Verene
Honestly, I don't think $45 is that big of a deal. It's still significantly less than a brand new game would cost.
I would have gone for that myself, really, if not for the fact that I've got to shell out money for car repairs this week. I'll just have to remember to unequip the three I have if I decide to replace them with a different character.
I would have gone for that myself, really, if not for the fact that I've got to shell out money for car repairs this week. I'll just have to remember to unequip the three I have if I decide to replace them with a different character.
dancing gnome
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Count up how much 8 mercs would be if you bought them all with single merc slots, or even two packs of three and two of one? You see how it would add up to be more than $45?
It's a way to allow people to buy in bulk and save some money unlike if they bought one at a time. The pack is made cheaper than if you bought one at a time so if people wanted to, they could buy a big pack like that. When you think about it like that, the $45 is perfectly fair imo |
Hell I don't even think EotN costs more than $45 from the ArenaNet in game store.
In no way is $45 even remotely close to a reasonably priced feature. They have the players by the balls and they know anyone who is still playing 6 years after the game is released is going to pay insane amounts for incredibly unreasonably priced features if they want them at all. It's a slap in the face to everyone else that they happen to give you a gameplay advantage in the process... or another marketing exploit.
Stuart444
^ then don't buy 8, buy a pack of 3 or even just 1. As for money grubbing... so? They are a business after all and they need to earn money somehow.
I feel it's perfectly fair although I won't buy a pack of 8 since I don't think I'd ever use that many. a pack of 3? sure but I doubt I'd need 8 merc slots.
I feel it's perfectly fair although I won't buy a pack of 8 since I don't think I'd ever use that many. a pack of 3? sure but I doubt I'd need 8 merc slots.
FengShuiDove
I have to say, BEAUTIFUL update. Amazing implementation, great ideas, the title fixes are wonderful (and clearly everyone else though so too, every main town was filled with folks getting Drunkard ), and 7 heroes is such a blast.
One thing: Please update the F11 menu to be able to bind the skills on heroes 4-7. Even if it's just one skill, I'd like to be able to control a single skill cast of each hero.
), and 7 heroes is such a blast.One thing: Please update the F11 menu to be able to bind the skills on heroes 4-7. Even if it's just one skill, I'd like to be able to control a single skill cast of each hero.
JimmyNeutron
I LOVE THE READY CHECK! Whoops...I wasn't ready...last minute change...Ok...I'm ready...WHOOPS again...I changed my mind...Ok...I'm set for now...WHOOPS...
LOL!!!!
LOL!!!!
Painbringer
Yeah little steep on the purchase ~ my heros will work for me for free went to Shards of Orr dind level one in a few minutes (i did not even check the builds) so will be checking other places soon.
Only thing that sucks is this came out the same week as the beta for PVP on Cyrsis 2
Oh well just need to play all the more
Anyone notice better AI on walking into traps etc..?
Only thing that sucks is this came out the same week as the beta for PVP on Cyrsis 2
Oh well just need to play all the more
Anyone notice better AI on walking into traps etc..?
Twysted Troll
Love this Update!!
not bothered about mercs... 7 heroes is fine with me
Finally got space in my storage after using all those eggnogs i had been saving up dreading the day i was going to tackle the Drunkard title,
now one log in later i have my Ale hound,
as for too easy, not really , i still had to aquire the alcohol,
i dont see clicking the mouse every minute/3 minutes as hard ... it was just mindnumbingly stupid way of "playing" a game ... not fun ... and i always play to have fun
I think with the changes they have made idiotic grinds more fun and sensible to achieve
<thumbs up from the Troll>
not bothered about mercs... 7 heroes is fine with me
Finally got space in my storage after using all those eggnogs i had been saving up dreading the day i was going to tackle the Drunkard title,
now one log in later i have my Ale hound,
as for too easy, not really , i still had to aquire the alcohol,
i dont see clicking the mouse every minute/3 minutes as hard ... it was just mindnumbingly stupid way of "playing" a game ... not fun ... and i always play to have fun
I think with the changes they have made idiotic grinds more fun and sensible to achieve
<thumbs up from the Troll>
agrios
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Hell I don't even think EotN costs more than $45 from the ArenaNet in game store. In no way is $45 even remotely close to a reasonably priced feature. They have the players by the balls and they know anyone who is still playing 6 years after the game is released is going to pay insane amounts for incredibly unreasonably priced features if they want them at all. It's a slap in the face to everyone else that they happen to give you a gameplay advantage in the process... or another marketing exploit. |
How much costs a DLC nowadays?
As I said earlier, 45 is a bit overpriced imho, its the retail price of most new games atm. At $45 my answer is "no thank you".
I love the game, I want to support these guys, but I want to make it with a fair price.
$20-25 for 8 slots its sure-buy.
Tullzinski
Time to play Guild Wars again!
Apok
You know you guys don't have to buy the mercenaries, right?
Don't complain that you have to pay for a DVD when you've already seen the movie.
Don't complain that you have to pay for a DVD when you've already seen the movie.
Dzjudz
Hardly the point.
A11Eur0
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Honestly, I don't think $45 is that big of a deal. It's still significantly less than a brand new game would cost.
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Apok: no, we don't have to buy them. That's why we're not. We WOULD, however, if they were priced reasonably. 8 mercenary slots for $20 would be an instant purchase on my part. I'd do it during my lunch break. Alienating an arbitrary 75% of the playerbase during a recessed economy with a grossly overpriced "shiny" feature, or pricing it reasonably and getting that amount from, say, 75% of the playerbase. Let's do some simple arbitrary math:
1 million players. 250,000 buy the $45 package. That's $11,250,000.
1 million players. 750,000 buy the same package but for $20. That's $15,000,000. Now, we all can guess that these numbers are probably inflated. I'd be very surprised if more than 10,000 players buy the full package. But I can make a reasonable hypothesis that Anet will get a significant increase in revenue by dropping the price, simply due to volume.
But this has been stated before ad nauseum and has been ignored. I don't just want a "sale day" special, either. What if I'm busy that week and don't notice the "half off" price? they did that for the Storage panes, and I was working so much that I missed the window. If it were all the time, I'd have a full Xunlai box, instead of the 4 plus materials that I have now. That's money that Anet lost out on, and they're losing out on even more now.
HawkofStorms
Only 7 heroes? WTF A.net. I guess I can't solo Urgoz with H/H. 11 or else
(I kid)
(I kid)
Improvavel
Mercenary heroes are mostly cosmetic (unless you want to make full parties of the same profession).
The fact that you need to strip all you merc heroes based on the same character if you want to update their appearance is extremely annoying.
The fact that you need to strip all you merc heroes based on the same character if you want to update their appearance is extremely annoying.
rick1027
loved the update had way too positives minion ui 7 hero update and pre quests never wanted to death level have a char that needed it but never wanted to do it same with drunk title just didnt want to waste the time able to clear out all those unwanted alcohols in storage a whole pane... so thanks anet loved it
Chocobo1
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Count up how much 8 mercs would be if you bought them all with single merc slots, or even two packs of three and two of one? You see how it would add up to be more than $45?
It's a way to allow people to buy in bulk and save some money unlike if they bought one at a time. The pack is made cheaper than if you bought one at a time so if people wanted to, they could buy a big pack like that. When you think about it like that, the $45 is perfectly fair imo |
Yol
Best update from ANet in a long time! Embark beach is lovely, the changes to drunkard and survivor make sense (speaking as someone who already has an ale hound and a pre-titles main), and the use of full hero parties will open up parts of the game to me that haven't been so accessible (e.g. I can casually stroll through uw now and enjoy the scenery without worrying about other players). I'm not too fussed about the mercenary hero feature....I can afford it but I don't need it.
Lasai
I feel that determining the value of my entertainment dollars is up to me.
45 dollars, will access what will really be 8 x 15 heroes for all my chars, and any future chars. That is dirt cheap over the course of the game,
My heroes will at last, be mine. Their fancy armor will be to my taste, not a narrow choice of hero sets.
This will effect my visual enjoyment of the game and enhance the value of the time I have spent collecting elite armors as well.
I don't think any game has offered any purchaseable content that generated the level of excitement I feel over this.
So, for me.. I have no issues with the price. Others may disagree, but the choice is theirs to make. I'll get more enjoyment over time from this than my boys do blowing 60 bucks on an Xbox game they beat in a week and throw in a drawer.
45 dollars, will access what will really be 8 x 15 heroes for all my chars, and any future chars. That is dirt cheap over the course of the game,
My heroes will at last, be mine. Their fancy armor will be to my taste, not a narrow choice of hero sets.
This will effect my visual enjoyment of the game and enhance the value of the time I have spent collecting elite armors as well.
I don't think any game has offered any purchaseable content that generated the level of excitement I feel over this.
So, for me.. I have no issues with the price. Others may disagree, but the choice is theirs to make. I'll get more enjoyment over time from this than my boys do blowing 60 bucks on an Xbox game they beat in a week and throw in a drawer.
MrVivi
personally did not like the drunk and sur title change its a slap in the face for all of as who did it the old way. plus what si the point of the HoM Calc if u are gonna make it possible to get to 50/50 super easy and again slap for the people that had to sweat blood to get there.
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personally did not like the drunk and sur title change its a slap in the face for all of as who did it the old way. plus what si the point of the HoM Calc if u are gonna make it possible to get to 50/50 super easy and again slap for the people that had to sweat blood to get there.
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I got drunkard and survivor the old fashioned way and I don't care. So not 'all of us' I think.
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A11Eur0
Got drunkard before this update, never bothered with survivor...if I get it, so be it. Also not worried about LDOA...
Who cares what other people think? If YOU know, and the people YOU care about know that you did it the hard way, that's all that matters.
Who cares what other people think? If YOU know, and the people YOU care about know that you did it the hard way, that's all that matters.