To those who said they already got Leg Survivor the legit way. I have to say I applaud that. Not dying for a couple of run is easy. Doing it for a long time is something else. #clap
ON topic : probably won't change too much. Maybe only on my main (mes) because I think it's the only one I kinda-want to have some kind of survivor on her. Ritualist (surv 1) might get his second rank tought.
Survivor for the Gung-Ho Types
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Random Scrubinator
Well, just made it to Survivor rank 1. If I can make it to rank 2, I'll turn in what books and quests I have and box the rest. I get 5 second lag spikes on a regular basis, so even boxing is going to be dicey.
The huge experience reward for Zinn's Task was really enticing. What hit you for 900 damage during those quests?
The huge experience reward for Zinn's Task was really enticing. What hit you for 900 damage during those quests?
S4br3t00th
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this is a cool way for those that played since 05. but for those that spent like xxx money on skill caps...
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Oh well, it's not like it's any hard to get it by VQing, so still a very welcome change... Only thing is that deaths from any form of PvP shouldn't count, farming zkeys will be much less profitable without my monk...
edit: oh well, bad habits die hard... almost made r2 via leftover quests, skill caps and VQ :'(. Hey! today's ZC is RA! Cheers!
Coast
haha, i'm doing fow, gets me survivor on all toons and enough shards for my derv i'll make soon
Vilaptca
I was doing good the first few days, but then I got back into my normal playstyle and started Leeroying everything. I suppose I'll be starting over again. Though I have another character that is at 700k so I'm not too worried about getting it on my main.
Deesturbed
Well, I got rank 1 on "accident", -- that's to say that I wasn't really trying NOT to die until I noticed I had 150k experience already. I've done 2 FoW runs and a couple of vanquishes and I'm nearly at 500k now. It's very easy going
Edit: Vabbi can be a scary place to VQ, especially with the Elementals around
Edit: Vabbi can be a scary place to VQ, especially with the Elementals around
ElMantis
Got to 600k exp just by playing normally working towards VQ and rep titles then died in Warband of Brothers whilst helping a guildie out. Now I think I'll just fill a few Proph and EotN books to hand in all at the same time to save the pain of it happening again.
Neith
well i've been playing a little over 3 years, didn't even know survivor was a title until i saw my ranger had x amount of exp and shortly after i saw that I died. well i get that chance again, just reached rank 1 this morning and i'm doing 3 quests in the uw. Some may say there are faster ways of doing it, but for me this feels safest. I have spent a lot of time in the uw so i'm pretty comfortable there.
Marverick
Note to self: don't run "Save Yourselves!" in HM when going for survivor.
Jerec The Raven
As the poster child for BUH, I'll go ahead and say there were several times that I would've been wiped Heroing Rragar's Menagerie HM. But when I used BUH it gave us enough time to kill the remaining enemies without a full party wipe.
Aqrab
Have a question, if you previously did survivor got to like Rank 1 or 2 and died. Can you still get the title again with that character?
Random Scrubinator
Hopefully that's the case
I got to rank 1 since the update, and ended up overaggroing in Arachni's. I escaped, but then got Rit spiked by aloes trying to rez my team. At least I can now do the recent UW/DoA Zaishen Bounties without worrying about dying
I got to rank 1 since the update, and ended up overaggroing in Arachni's. I escaped, but then got Rit spiked by aloes trying to rez my team. At least I can now do the recent UW/DoA Zaishen Bounties without worrying about dying
Lest121
I am VQing and if it get it, kool, otherwise I won't go after it until I get legendary VGer, and legendary Carto....
Ascended Furling
I had one very first char left that i made at the start. All the others i deleted and made survivor. On all my lvl 20 pve chars i had survivor and now my first one who died 4k times has survivor^^ in very happy with the change in the title.
But now im thinking at all the chars i had to delete before. For example a male derv with black primefall/destroyer gloves/ded mini destroyer(and some other pets) and a destroyer scythe and that all in the name of the old survivor.
My first char that got survivor 2 days ago got it by doing vat. farming. Started the day after the update but that day the servers where terrible and lost survivor 2 times by not paying attention when i started and 3 times bij DC because a 007/040 or a 013... My guildies where doing it the same way and lost survivor at the same time as me with every DC. So Survivor was a guild thing we did^^
But now im thinking at all the chars i had to delete before. For example a male derv with black primefall/destroyer gloves/ded mini destroyer(and some other pets) and a destroyer scythe and that all in the name of the old survivor.
My first char that got survivor 2 days ago got it by doing vat. farming. Started the day after the update but that day the servers where terrible and lost survivor 2 times by not paying attention when i started and 3 times bij DC because a 007/040 or a 013... My guildies where doing it the same way and lost survivor at the same time as me with every DC. So Survivor was a guild thing we did^^
Neith
Melkorium
I got Survivor 1 on my mesmer pootling around in DoA trying out the 7 heroes on the first day of the update 
Challenge missions look more fun with extra heroes, so will prolly continue to Legendary messing around in them.
Challenge missions look more fun with extra heroes, so will prolly continue to Legendary messing around in them.
Damian Greenthumb
Died at 798k at Veattirs.
-sigh-
At least its not a lost cause though! And Shamrocks-n-Ale drop on Fri
-sigh-
At least its not a lost cause though! And Shamrocks-n-Ale drop on Fri
distilledwill
Oh man Damian, that sucks!
Oh yeah! I had best get my farming hat on (not farming on my survivor - no no no). Have reached 250k (kinda slowed down once I reached R1) I'm getting about 40k a day, I'm in no huge rush to reach R3.
Oh yeah! I had best get my farming hat on (not farming on my survivor - no no no). Have reached 250k (kinda slowed down once I reached R1) I'm getting about 40k a day, I'm in no huge rush to reach R3.
Sjeng
I'll just continue with all my pre-survivor characters like I always have. They don't die a lot at level 20 with all heroes unlocked and all primary skills, and a lot of PvE skills.
I'll avoid Polymock like the plague though.
Don't have a lot of time to play, so whether any of them will make it, remains to be seen.
I'll avoid Polymock like the plague though.
Don't have a lot of time to play, so whether any of them will make it, remains to be seen.
S00per Dave
I need my money to pay for sweets, which thankfully weren't messed with, so i prolly do boxing this weekend to get the last of my booze for drunkard.
lame i know but i got leg. survivor the hard way before the update
lame i know but i got leg. survivor the hard way before the update
afya
I was chasing GWAMM and missing one title. Intended to get r10 vanguard. I was r9 at the time. But farming survivor is definitely easier/faster. So.....u know
Why?
i need to figure out how to play safer. Man it is not easy when you try not to die. I think i played so gung ho that it will take a while to change my thinking. I mean my main has over 9200 deaths atm.
I am trying to look for hints tips on how people did get survivors. i am not going to waste money on scrolls or forcing it or anything else, so we'll see.
What type of super safe play styles do people use?
ps, still wish the consumables title was account wide. heck, all titles should be at this point.
I am trying to look for hints tips on how people did get survivors. i am not going to waste money on scrolls or forcing it or anything else, so we'll see.
What type of super safe play styles do people use?
ps, still wish the consumables title was account wide. heck, all titles should be at this point.
Squishy ftw
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What type of super safe play styles do people use?
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As a warrior I'll still rush into mobs head first in an attempt to ball them all nicely for ES to render them useless. I now just always bring an ST shelter/union rit and SoA on at least 2 heros to micro in case I have some serious aggro on me.
pingu666
slightly more defensive skillbar and teambuild, get as much health and armour on you as possible 600hp+ is good. a "running away" weapon set of a sheild and 30hp weapon
teambuild wise, i normaly ran a ele with earth magic, ward against melee, weakness/blind skills, and some knockdowns
MM necro is also good too, stick blood ritual on him/her and they will use it with reasonable inteligance, helps the monks, specialy hero monks quite alot, even with a cheap energy skillset.
play your role* aswell. although on my assassin i have done alot of critical barrage to keep away from xplodey stuff :s
endure pain is pretty handy on a warrior, along with some teamwide armour buff like watch yourself, but that got nurfed so :/
teambuild wise, i normaly ran a ele with earth magic, ward against melee, weakness/blind skills, and some knockdowns
MM necro is also good too, stick blood ritual on him/her and they will use it with reasonable inteligance, helps the monks, specialy hero monks quite alot, even with a cheap energy skillset.
play your role* aswell. although on my assassin i have done alot of critical barrage to keep away from xplodey stuff :s
endure pain is pretty handy on a warrior, along with some teamwide armour buff like watch yourself, but that got nurfed so :/
Lest121
Just got it farming Vaettirs with Scroll of Hunters insight on my sin, it was super easy, usually when i farm Vaettirs i will mess around and wait for the last second to cast SF, this time i made sure to recast the second the cool down was over...
Qing Guang
It's funny - shifting to a more cautious playstyle actually lost me my Survivor progress (I was just past r1).
I had switched from my usual RtL/daggers build to a more standard Invoke Lightning build (having abandoned Vaettir farming after a couple runs - I don't have the patience or the precision). That was fine.
I got very confident with it and started being rather gung-ho even while vanquishing, but everything turned out fine.
Then I was vanqing Jaga Moraine with a guildie. We'd had a few close calls at Avarr the Fallen (at one point having to restart the run after all our ressers died and I didn't want to kill myself to use the shrine), so I was a bit cautious going into Whiteout. I grabbed my Urgoz's Flatbow and tried to see if I could pull his buddies away - but of course it was uphill, so I brushed the edge of their spell range. The next thing I knew, I was under about 5 different snares and being bombarded with cold spells. For a second, it looked like I would make it back to the party (Olias, Xandra and my monk guildie were all doing their utmost to keep me alive)... and then the guildie got hit by a stray Water Trident as she was running towards me. With my primary heals on the ground, I died just as I reached the group.
The next attempt at him we just went for it... and beat him with no trouble at all.
...if I hadn't gotten overcautious and tried to pull, I'd still be on my way to r2. Moral of the story: sometimes throwing caution to the wind IS the safest option.
I had switched from my usual RtL/daggers build to a more standard Invoke Lightning build (having abandoned Vaettir farming after a couple runs - I don't have the patience or the precision). That was fine.
I got very confident with it and started being rather gung-ho even while vanquishing, but everything turned out fine.
Then I was vanqing Jaga Moraine with a guildie. We'd had a few close calls at Avarr the Fallen (at one point having to restart the run after all our ressers died and I didn't want to kill myself to use the shrine), so I was a bit cautious going into Whiteout. I grabbed my Urgoz's Flatbow and tried to see if I could pull his buddies away - but of course it was uphill, so I brushed the edge of their spell range. The next thing I knew, I was under about 5 different snares and being bombarded with cold spells. For a second, it looked like I would make it back to the party (Olias, Xandra and my monk guildie were all doing their utmost to keep me alive)... and then the guildie got hit by a stray Water Trident as she was running towards me. With my primary heals on the ground, I died just as I reached the group.
The next attempt at him we just went for it... and beat him with no trouble at all.
...if I hadn't gotten overcautious and tried to pull, I'd still be on my way to r2. Moral of the story: sometimes throwing caution to the wind IS the safest option.
Sp1ky
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I didn't change my style, just my general team setup.
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Squishy ftw
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Would you post your team setup?
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AoTL MM with SB/SoA
SoS with splinter/ar and pwk
Panic
Incendiary ranger (usually has epidemic)
IV necro with the curses goodies (mop/enfeebling/weaken armor) + 2x hex removal
ST with shelter/union/whatever
Burst monk with SoA and whatever
Keep in mind that this is what I use in FoW. Changes are made depending on the area. If i'm not running ES the Incendiary is normally replaced with an ineptitude mesmer.
pingu666
qing, perhaps get someone else, or a hero to pull/aggro
i nearly lost my survivor sin to traps, went from 600hp to 60hp in a instant
idea for those planning on books, do hardmode first, then the dicy missions in normal mode, after that the normal missions are safer, so hopefully you can gain a decent amount of no death xp from that...
i nearly lost my survivor sin to traps, went from 600hp to 60hp in a instant
idea for those planning on books, do hardmode first, then the dicy missions in normal mode, after that the normal missions are safer, so hopefully you can gain a decent amount of no death xp from that...
StormX
died at 1m while vaettir farming. farming with ele is significantly harder than with sin i died many times while trying to learn it. now im going to do it the sloow hard way sigh
i died many times while trying to learn it. now im going to do it the sloow hard way sigh
Sharkinu
I'm at 310k xp now doing Zmissions, Zquests, ZVQ and daily WiK Bounties. Since the survivor update I only lost progress once doing a HM WiK bounty(I hate party limit of 6 >_< ). Lost it when i was at 293k so yea...I got the lost xp back really quick doing HM stuff. I'm quite happy to see I managed to do HM Ooze Pit with no survivor reset(Death Pact signet and Dungeon boulders are some really nice tools to recover from a party wipe :P)
The Black Mumba
I have seen a few people in Longeye's Ledge asking to leech , and some vaettir farmer actually taking leechers. I don't understand how they manage to get the experience, maybe they cast shadow form and mess with aggro?
matter of time
It has taken around 6 months for my para to get LS. I did full FC, EoTN and NF. Yesterday it took around 3 hrs for my Assasin to get it. But I don't care. I like the changes and I like as it is. No qq.
Gli
I just got it on my 2005-born main, yay! Mostly doing 2 person FoW clearings. Made me a good deal of money too, and a req 9 purple max crystalline sword out of the wailing lord's chest.
ShaJiexi
The only thing that's changed for me is I've stopped PvPing on my main in between VQs/skill capping! Should have started after the previous update, but I have enough skills left to cap/areas left to vanquish LS won't be a problem. Props to ANet, I never felt like going for LS on a new character, and all of my mains are from 2005/2006. Now they have a chance for an extra title, and GWAMM is sort-of within reach (if I can come up with a few million to buy sweets, alcohol, and party treats!)
Quru
My playing style isn't going to change. I have something like 1k deaths on my main (necro). I think I just have to blow things off faster.
ShaJiexi
Update: just got myself killed by Murakai when I turned off the interface to take screenshots, was not interrupting, and my heroes didn't interrupt either, and we insta-wiped. Ah, well.
mauirixxx
I wasn't planning changing my playstyle, but I've been sitting on 20 LB scrolls. Soooo I fired up the hulking stone elementalist farmer build, and off I went. Took about 8-9 scrolls, killing about 30-35 mobs (including Cobble Poundstone - 1,400 XP!) but I got to R1 today, and I'm halfway to R2.
I must stay strong haha
I must stay strong haha
Lest121
I just died after 4 million XP of no deaths, I think I was ganked by a GM, probably thought i was a bot because my farming routine is always the same, anyone who farmed the Vaettirs knows once you start to take damage just re-up an enchantment and it will nullify there damage, I redid 3 of my Assassin enchantments and the damage never stop, even ate candy apple to get 100 xtra hp, wish I had it recorded, oh well i got the title.
Hobbs
Did 2 fullruns of FoW with my heroes today, get about 120k per run and it's not as tedious as Boxing/Vaettir etc.