Fastest way to Legendary Survivor

SkyFallsInThunder

SkyFallsInThunder

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2010

wtb vs Dragons shields!

Vengeance Of The Night

R/

I am going for survivor on my second char which I wanna GWAMM and am planning to do this partly with books for a very simple reason: it is an awesome way to improve the protector/guardian titles as well. I will fill in at least one book for each campaign, both nm and hm and the dungeon nm and hm books, and the Young Heroes book, and after I have finished this I will have added 7 more titles. After this I will actually start the Survivor by vanquishing GWEN (thus getting another title - the Master of the North). If I din't get enough XP just from vq GWEN and then the books I stack, I will proceed to vq Luxon areas for my allegiance title. Will do so until I get some 8-900k xp without dying, then will use the books. I have not done the math to see exactly how much XP I will get from all the books, but I assume it to be 3-400k.

So by the time I get Survivor, I will have 8 more titles, too.

A friend of mine wants to get it by FoWSC - that is also a great way to do it.

Regular FoW clears are an awesome way, too.

Capping elites is great, especially if you have not capped all of them: great synergy.

Kilroy is... Kilroy. Good way, but rather boring.

Vaettirs seems awesome, too, especially due to the low duration.

The snow worms from Boreal Station seem like a very good way, too.

The best is, ofc, kath hammers, but those cost a fortune now.

Sooo many choices, enough for everyone to gain this title in the manner he finds most entertaining and/or proffitable. I sure am glad ArenaNet came with this change to the Survivor title. Kudos to those who got it the old way, it was a great undertaking, but this way makes much more sense imo and it can actually be enjoyable.

AbulAlhazred

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2011

It insn't so enjoyable when you get disconnected by the server and isn't your fault. And you have to restart again, and again, and again... If they have the intention to make the Survivor title good for every people, they have to ensure that disconnections don't break your title.
Now, not only I have to restart, but my title track is stuck about at 1.271.000 and I must type the "/deaths" to see the progress. It's very very ugly.

And for the Drunkard title? I made it "old-school", it took me 10.000 minutes, but now every noob with some gold could make it... I defenitly don't like these updates, they should use the head and think what they're doing and all consequences.

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

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Originally Posted by AbulAlhazred View Post
And for the Survivor title? I made it "old-school", it took me 6 months, but now every noob with some gold could make it... I defenitly don't like these updates, they should use the head and think what they're doing and all consequences. Fix it to reflect what a lot of original Survivors may be thinking. I am kind of bummed that they changed the title since I always considered that "starting at level 1" requirement to be a big part of it. Even 5+ years of playing the game, I have still managed only one LS (who is still going at 0 deaths and nearly 4 mill XP at this point).

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

those worms only have adjacent attacks, so on a caster you shouldnt even get hit. id say a bunch of attack skills, and some heals, just in case
396xp each without scrolls
rather boring tho, ideal for watching tv partly playing

LordDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

Dragons Den

E/

Just finished my Legendary Survivor and that finally put me up to GWAMM.

I was doing full clears of FoW but those were taking too long. I switched to doing the first 5 quests and maybe the the sixth one if I felt like it. Funny thing, I got two congrats sent to me via PM and neither one was in English.

killerbot3009

killerbot3009

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

the beaster

the Gold Fish [GOLD]

W/

HM books be it Nightfalls Hero handbook, or Shiros book, has synergy with the title and other rubish.....but pretty much 22 books and u max Leg Survivor and if u take the EoTN book then u pretty much max all ure other titles too fair enough 22 books is a little extreme, but then it is pretty idiot proof as when u had the books in u get the Exp so no chance of dying

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

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Originally Posted by Ghull Ka View Post
They're the nearly harmless "please please kill me" popup wurms north of boreal station If you want to be effective about that, bring spirits - kill, teleport, kill, teleport... There is pattern that you can use to make full use out of 30s-refresh scroll.

Spirits can attack even burrowed wurms once they aggroed on them btw. That speeds us stuff considerably.

AbulAlhazred

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2011

Because I don't want to get disconnected again while "kilroying", I'm trying the wurm path and I find this farm very interesting and super-easy, the wurms (level 30) cannot harm you if you're not very close; my toon is a necro and I'll usually use Spirit Spammer build (I added Necrosis and another hex), it works pretty good here and, in the worst case, if I disconnect in the proximity of a wurm, it should not kill me because my spirits kill it faster and because I'm blessed by Norn having 690 hp. I may equip a shield to be more protected against wurm attacks.

Nice farm. Using double-exp blue scrolls (200%) every wurm gives you 792 xp; while I'm killing the first 10 wurms in 3 minutes, should be 158.400 xp per hour, that's pretty good.

October Jade

October Jade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

drifting between Indiana and NorCal

Does the progress bar continue past r3 now, even after death? I try to kill my characters precisely at 1,337,500 simply for aesthetics. I'm wondering though, if I ever accumulate that much consecutive xp a second time, would the title bar start moving again? That would defeat the purpose of dying intentionally, and I'd be stuck with a silly-looking number.

Yes, I realize how trivial this might sound. But it's important to me.

AbulAlhazred

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2011

I don't really know, because I've not acquired 1.337.500 xp ;-)

Other titles, for example gwen reputation title tracks, that continue increasing after the cap limit has been acquired. We have to wait someone else for answering to this question.

PS: a single wurm-path run now takes me LESS than 3 minutes, because if I type "/age" the game says "2 minutes"; the drop isn't too bad, some gold items too, some warrior tomes, if you pick up white drops you may buy scrolls for free.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

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(I added Necrosis and another hex) Glad to hear you are making nice progress.

(You are usually better off dropping spirits and then running to position where you can summon them to attack next wurm immediatelly, much less downtime.)

killerbot3009

killerbot3009

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

the beaster

the Gold Fish [GOLD]

W/

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Originally Posted by October Jade
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Does the progress bar continue past r3 now, even after death? I try to kill my characters precisely at 1,337,500 simply for aesthetics. I'm wondering though, if I ever accumulate that much consecutive xp a second time, would the title bar start moving again? That would defeat the purpose of dying intentionally, and I'd be stuck with a silly-looking number.

Yes, I realize how trivial this might sound. But it's important to me. the title always did go above 1337500, personaly i am going to find something awesome to finish my mesmers survivor on.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

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Originally Posted by AbulAlhazred
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-Snip- That seems like the right thing for you if you're struggling with DC's. Wurms is incredibly boring and tedious, but it's also easy and super effective.

milkopilko

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

N/D

can necros farm vaettirs or anything super awesome like that?

Lloyd6770

Lloyd6770

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

One

W/

To do LS on my war, I am doing Fastfoot farming. I get 11k XP per 3 min run, so that's around 220k XP per hour using double XP scrolls, and its very safe as well.

kewlsnake

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2010

N/Me

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Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
HM.

If you struggle with it in HM, you can do it in NM but it will take much longer. And if you're doing Killroy's in NM you can better do Wurms in HM, since it's faster.

Can people tell me the times they run for Killroy HM/wurms?

The wurm farm itself takes less than 3 minutes for me, but picking up drops and rezones averages out to 3.57 minutes per run.

I can do in Killroy HM in 13-15 minutes but I'll admit i'm pretty clunky at it.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

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Originally Posted by milkopilko View Post
can necros farm vaettirs or anything super awesome like that? I'd like to know also.

The last thing I remember farming with my necro primary was Monkey Paragons in Kourna. Bleh.

epervier

epervier

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

Jersey

Oath of Fire [Oath]

E/

I'm going to collect story books! If I complete every one available it should accumulate 867500 xp alone. all I have to do is double up on a few books and I'm there. No mindless grinding, no hammers, no boxing, no fear of disconnections and I can have fun doing all the missions in the game with my full hero party. And if I mess up and die while doing them I don't have to start over. I'm thinking of them as a way of banking xps while playing!
Thanks, Mike.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

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I'd like to know also.

The last thing I remember farming with my necro primary was Monkey Paragons in Kourna. Bleh. Yes every prof can farm vatteirs. Some use the aid of a bonder hero, but that really makes it very easy.





You can fill in optionals depending on your primary...there are many many ways to do it.

Bellatrixa

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

N/

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Yes every prof can farm vatteirs. Some use the aid of a bonder hero, but that really makes it very easy.





You can fill in optionals depending on your primary...there are many many ways to do it. Hmms... I do know a certain monk who is also working on Survivor... I know you can run with a bonder hero but how badly would the exp work out if take a human monk as my bonder? We've been trying to think up some duo monk+necro farms for Survivor and stuff. The only one that really sprung to mind for us was the old duo SS/55 UW farm but obv that's not really viable anymore now, is it? I'm just curious as to how slowly Survivor would be if we ran Vaetirrs together. At the moment I'm simply soloing wurms outside Boreal and doing the odd FoWSC with guild/alliance who know I'm going for Survivor. Didn't really want to risk Raptors :/

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

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Hmms... I do know a certain monk who is also working on Survivor... I know you can run with a bonder hero but how badly would the exp work out if take a human monk as my bonder? We've been trying to think up some duo monk+necro farms for Survivor and stuff. The only one that really sprung to mind for us was the old duo SS/55 UW farm but obv that's not really viable anymore now, is it? I'm just curious as to how slowly Survivor would be if we ran Vaetirrs together. At the moment I'm simply soloing wurms outside Boreal and doing the odd FoWSC with guild/alliance who know I'm going for Survivor. Didn't really want to risk Raptors :/ First I was gonna say: Remember, if you're not up close to the kills, you don't get xp, so your bonder shouldn't be a leech like that. I tried to powerlevel someone with raptors and he didn't get any xp unless he was in earshot of the killing.

But then I realised I should say: But your bonder has bonds on you, which affect the combat, so yeah he'd prolly get xp.

I don't mind him taking drops, but half xp would suck.


edit, @mike: I've had a similar idea. I'm already working on Master of the North, and only have one book left... my hard mode Dungeon book. I went and filled a couple pages the other day and died a lot, heh. But then I realized, the book is gonna be 120k when I turn it in, AND I can sit on each dungeon's individual quest for another 15k, 7.5k, or 5k or whatever... I wait till I turn in the book, then run about and turn in all the quests, for an additional bonus.

Galderyn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2010

Le Chant Des Dryades

R/

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Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
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First I was gonna say: Remember, if you're not up close to the kills, you don't get xp, so your bonder shouldn't be a leech like that. I tried to powerlevel someone with raptors and he didn't get any xp unless he was in earshot of the killing.

But then I realised I should say: But your bonder has bonds on you, which affect the combat, so yeah he'd prolly get xp.

I don't mind him taking drops, but half xp would suck. I'm pretty sure that even a bonder won't get any XP. If you want him to have XP, a solution would be to bring Recall (on the bonder), use it on the Vaettirs killer, and remove it juste before the ennemies die.

Opeth

Opeth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Portugal

Dangerous Pumpkins [dP]

Rt/A

i'm going for suvivor just by doing quests and killing stuff (not farming anything special).

I need to have something to do :\

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

it's not the fastest but I am SO done with grind, so I did 12 fissure clears in NM with no cons with 6 heroes and an afk 2nd account

got leg survivor in less than 3 days. For the record the best drop/obsidian chest/fissure chest drop I got was a r9 shadow blade 15^stanced, so yeah nothing good dropped. Got a nice amount of obsidian shards though. Each clear gets about 115k, so that's pretty good.

I did this on my warrior, the only times I got a little nervous was when I got Grenth Balanced in the burning forest, or hit with empathy + spiteful spirit right before going into hundred blades

Damian Greenthumb

Damian Greenthumb

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Hawaii

Me/

Im up to 645k doing Vaettirs using Rampage 300g scrolls. 525xp X 60 per <5min run.
SF sin btw.
Tried using gold scrolls b4 they sold out and seemed like Xp capped at 700/mob.

epervier

epervier

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

Jersey

Oath of Fire [Oath]

E/

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Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
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@mike: I've had a similar idea. I'm already working on Master of the North, and only have one book left... my hard mode Dungeon book. I went and filled a couple pages the other day and died a lot, heh. But then I realized, the book is gonna be 120k when I turn it in, AND I can sit on each dungeon's individual quest for another 15k, 7.5k, or 5k or whatever... I wait till I turn in the book, then run about and turn in all the quests, for an additional bonus. I didn't even think of the quest rewards! Some of them are pretty substantial. Only thing is, not all of them can be collected in an outpost or town. I'm going to have to research how many can be collected without zoning into an explorable area. thanks for the idea!

Qing Guang

Qing Guang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2008

California

Lucid Spirits [LIFE]

N/A

I've been out skill capping and I'm about 4 caps away from r1 Survivor. I just did a bit of math and getting all the NF caps (I've got all the Proph and most of Factions) will put me at like 100k past r2. Still debating on what to do for the remaining 600k or so.

What's the approximate XP/hr for Vaettir runs on an ele? How risky is it? I've only just gotten back into the game last weekend so my reflexes aren't the best... if Vaettir farm requires a lot of precision I'm probably better off Wurming.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

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What's the approximate XP/hr for Vaettir runs on an ele? How risky is it? I've only just gotten back into the game last weekend so my reflexes aren't the best... if Vaettir farm requires a lot of precision I'm probably better off Wurming. If using the 300g scrolls (hunters insight)from trader it yields about 31,500exp per run, which takes <5mins. (I think...lol)

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

at 975k now on my warrior, so thats like 4more fow sc

timbo_3101

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2010

R/

As Essence Snow says, using the common scrolls produces some 31,000xp per 5-6min. Using rare scrolls would produce 40,000-50,000xp.
I used a bonder hero as insurance too for my assassin, to minimise the risk of inattention/disconnection and allow extra offense.
Now I can return to real PvE and speed clears (relieved). Happy farming!

azur3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Poland

A/

Vaettirs are uber easy if it comes for survivor.
Done it just today with 175% exp scrolls in like 4-5h without paying a lot of attention. Used sin build.

AndrewSX

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

Definitely Vaettirs. Done r3 on my Mes in few days(didin't played so much...) without any problem. Just bring a Bonder for safe and easier runs.
Also, bring Air of Superiority if farming for exp, even at r0 is maintenable.

From wiki: "Kneel Before Your Master!" ->Double XP gained ->20%. Also: Experience scrolls stack with the "Kneel Before Your Master" bonus.

So if you kill 60 vaettirs, at least 12 will give double exp.

About exp on bonder, i've seen that the exp is divided among teammates in earshot(or similar distance). Cause your hero will probably be at limit of compass (expecially when balling/killing) it wont leech exp.

P.S:If anyone is interested on my build, it was Deadly paradox-SF-Shroud of distress-Ether Nightmare(kurz/lux skill)-Cry of pain(SS)-Wastrel demise-Air of superiority-Elemental resistance(can be changed for mantra if soloing or Great dwarf armor probably; use it right after casted SF, it will be recharged when you will cancel it with DP for renew SF).

Standard bonder hero w/ Life barrier-life bond-balth spirit-optional bond(succor/mending or such)-blessed signet.

Neith

Neith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

Texas

One in Guild Wars

R/

got my title today, did about 3-4 runs a day. I get bored doing it easily. Died a couple of times due to not paying attention, but once i focused got it quick, my build was R/A, took a bonder hero R/M just to be safe, after i got the title replaced the bonder hero with Storm Chaser...pretty cool. My bonder hero didn't get any experience from my run. She carried balth spirit and EoE only. put her in range to cast and hit me with EoE and the vaettir's died a bit quicker then they would've without it. No need for extra bonds as i took no damage. But that was on my ranger, haven't tried it on other professions. But yes vaettir's would be the easiest and quickest way to farm survivor. 31,500 exp for all 60 vaettir's in that area with the 175% exp scrolls.

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Originally Posted by kewlsnake
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And if you're doing Killroy's in NM you can better do Wurms in HM, since it's faster.

Can people tell me the times they run for Killroy HM/wurms?

The wurm farm itself takes less than 3 minutes for me, but picking up drops and rezones averages out to 3.57 minutes per run.

I can do in Killroy HM in 13-15 minutes but I'll admit i'm pretty clunky at it. Got max survivor title doing kilroy HM

The first 5 runs or so you might die until you figure out that you have to aggro things yourself and use the more damaging skills 3-4-5-6-7 and hardly ever use 2 while spamming 1 on recharge.

The first 10-15 runs or so I sometimes got KO'd and ended the runs at maybe 50-70 energy.

The last 10-15 runs I did I got KO'd maybe once per run or not at all.

In HM you can beat the dungeon before a 10minute scroll runs out so I'd say 10 minutes once you're good at it.

I got about 150 each of shamrock ales and four leaf clovers, at least 100k in gold from merching stuff and 100-150 runes/insignias to dump on my heroes. Also got 2 minor vigs although I may have found them elsewhere.
Got 3-4 elite tomes, a guesstimated 30 normal tomes


I did about 40 runs using various scrolls but mostly double exp cheapest rampager scrolls that require you to kill a foe within 30 seconds to recharge it.
I only used one per run and didn't have it active for the end boss due to the delay I left between killing maghma and the end boss to go grab items.

All in all it is about 7 hours of grinding that's actually quite fun

No scroll: 300 exp
adventurers: 450 exp 10mins
rampagers: 600 exp 30sec renewing (can keep it up entire run)
super duper expensive scrolls of goldsinking: 700exp

that's all per foe


But like I said, there's a small learning curve before you kill stuff auto-mode

edit: and I also got enough dyes to paint a rainbow

Red Gally

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my a**

N/

i finished the survivor with my necro using that build.

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:N/W_Manly_Raptor_Farmer

I changed "Finish Him" for "Feel No Pain" with some Shamrock ales. My health was around 815. You can't kill Rekoff but it's much safer cos if he manages to hits you with all the block and you don't have "Feel no pain", you're pretty much dead.

I used 175% xp, finished in a day.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
If using the 300g scrolls (hunters insight)from trader it yields about 31,500exp per run, which takes <5mins. (I think...lol) Ive been doing the Vaetir farm on my ele for Drops this weekend. One run is about 2-3 Minutes on my E/ME for killing all 60 Vaetirs (4 Minutes if you get a bad spawn or you get stuck and surrounded somewhere). Its a little bit risky as every 3 or 4 casts of the tank skills you could end up with one of them down for half a second (which is a lot of damage if you have 36 Vaetirs hitting you at once).