Needs tweaks, any advice

I would nearly be worth dropping a para for a Dom-prot mes and maybe Dwayna's Sorrow somewhere

Jagged Bomber has two copies of SOLS *Saw your edit*

4 copies of GFTE?

i would put a melee in their somewhere
you cant rely on minions to ball up mobs for barrage

Callista is right, a Panic based mesmer would do good in that mix, maybe swapping out a ranger and making the paras more physically oriented.

All this phisical damage... I'm thinking orders necro

Also - 3 Barragers and you with Volley and no Splinter Weapon? Are you insane?!

You've got a decent amount of party heal but you could probably do with some single target spike heals in there. Perhaps swap out your final Ranger for a healer of some sort.

Sorry I booted your Paragons. Couldn't really fit em safely into the build. Having an Orders makes up for it by a large margin, promise!

This build will make you a fortress. I don't carry in-bar reses because I carry scrolls. The unfamiliar bow attack on the Rangers is Zojun's Shot. It keeps your rangers up front to take damage while returning a nice amount of damage as well. Really underrated.

Now that I think about it, I defaulted to MBaS, SL, and PWK on the Orders when it has Foul Feast. Knock Foul Feast and Angorodon's Gaze for Life and Signet of Lost Souls.

^ you just completely overhauled his build. He asked how to improve his set up, because he wants to keep paras/rangers, he didn't ask for a whole new team build.

I'd change your monks build, remove SoA and gift of health for dwayna's kiss and patient spirit or dwayna's sorrow.

I improved his build, which is what he was asking for, despite his Paragon and Ranger premise, which wasn't working the way he implemented it (else he wouldn't be here).

Turns out a Mesmer running Panic works way better and can cover more bases than a Paragon of the same sort. The Orders is the same, it'll output more DPS and have the ability to add heals/support, something else he needed. There simply isn't room for dual Commandagons in most builds. Dropped the UA in favor of SoS, which is something he was thinking of adding anyways. It fulfilled a larger margin of gaps in his build when compared to the UA.

The rest is the same with some tweaks to the skill selections. Bumped him to Volley/Pets because he was having defense issues. They will also synergize with the rest of his build concept.

Honestly, I know it's about fun, but I can see the UA as being his saving grace in his current setup. I can't imagine him clearing a 300+ in less than 2 hours and a lot of DP with his current setup. If that is fun for him, more power to him, but I'd like to try my best to get him to a point where he's finding something more efficient and fun; this is something that's a bit difficult given his current line-up.

Also, if he switches his monk to Dwayna's Kiss and Patient Spirit/Dwayna's Sorrow, that'll be the third character in his build hard pressed for energy, and the only one with a power heal. No team with any Hero heals should ever carry Patient Spirit.

If he would like it, I can post a 3 ranger/3 para build that I've vanquished with, since he is so interested in the Ranger and Paragon setup.

wow

the new setup is interesting, will have to give it a run

actually i was aiming more for the ranger and para setup cause of someone elses post about VQing areas with ranger teams, and the setup i had worked, just not as well as i would have liked. normally i run a 2 rit/3 necro team with my ranger, but the challenge sounded interesting. but i do like the input and now it seems i have a new setup to try

thanx to all for input

@kaida will try that setup tomorrow and see how i like it, thanx again
oh and i wouldnt mind seeing a 3 ranger/para setup (though i will actually have to do the beyond quests so i can get Thackery..... he wasnt that hi on my list to unlock, so i never touched the beyond series)

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I guess I should have mentioned that I understood your typo. :P

I'm guessing your thought process is that EBSoH will increase the damage too fast (bringing the enemy below 50%) and negating a large portion of Anthem of Envy?

"Anthem of Envy might also be worth a look *unless* you had EBSOH"

The "unless" is why I'm asking.

I too am not sure if Envy works on all Arrows.

What about an orders necro with panic instead of the mesmer? Order of Blood (non elite one I'm sure), and dark fury + panic.

And it definitely needs splinter weapon.