Why do so many people use lockpicks?
milkopilko
Why do so many people open locked chests with lockpicks? Do they all intend to spend lots of platinum to finish their treasure hunter title? If they never reach the end of the title that means they should have just sold all their lock picks that they used right?
Yol
Using lockpicks also contributes to the Lucky and Unlucky titles, depending on whether the lockpick is retained, so by using them you are working on 3 titles at once, which saves time and money.
tasha
Locked chests can only be opened with lockpicks. Other chests (other than the Zaishen chest) can be opened by either lockpicks or their respective keys. Lockpicks can either break when they're used (giving unlucky points) or be retained (giving lucky points). The retention rate is determined by a combination of the treasure hunter title and the lucky title.
Sometimes locked chests, especially in hard mode, can return good stuff worth a few bob to sell. Often though, they give merchant worthy stuff. Unless you're prepared to scrape for every g you reasonably can opening chests will result in a net loss.
Generally if you have an interest in the treasure hunter title, opening chests you come across is a good idea. If you don't have an interest, the 1k or so from selling the picks is probably better for you. It really is up to the person.
Sometimes locked chests, especially in hard mode, can return good stuff worth a few bob to sell. Often though, they give merchant worthy stuff. Unless you're prepared to scrape for every g you reasonably can opening chests will result in a net loss.
Generally if you have an interest in the treasure hunter title, opening chests you come across is a good idea. If you don't have an interest, the 1k or so from selling the picks is probably better for you. It really is up to the person.
cybevenom
if you retain your lockpick when opening a chest you get the treasure hunter title point but also points towards the lucky title track.
If it breaks however you get points towards the unlucky title track.
Hope this was helpfull.
If it breaks however you get points towards the unlucky title track.
Hope this was helpfull.
milkopilko
hmm alright. I thought the best way to do luck ones was to park yourself in an event?
Premium Unleaded
Boardwalk isn't open all year round.
milkopilko
fair enough 
. thanks for all the replies
. thanks for all the replies
Iuris
Also note that lockpicks work on all chests and generally about even out for cost with regular keys when you consider the chance to retain, so many just carry a few along in case they spot a chest on their way, for the chance of a drop, even without any intents towards the title.
Cool Name
I use them just for the fun of it, I'm not always about getting the most money possible, it's fun to open chests.
DolyakJockey
One more thing to add: The higher your lucky title the better a chance you have to NOT break an item when you salvage a rune or mod off the item. Not really that big of deal but a nice little somethin' somethin' the lucky title brings.
Raven Wing
My bags and storage are already cluttered with all the stuff I would like to keep. I dont want to fill even more slots with shiverpeaks, kurzick keys, vabbi keys and so on. So I simply use lockpicks.
Twysted Troll
i spend most my time in HM do elite dungeons now lockpicks drop fairly often so im not actually spending money on buying them. Its a good way to work on 3 titles, im in no rush i like getting titles by playing the game.
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I love the Zaishen rewards now, im doing vanqs, combining with cartography, earning points in the respective titles and slowly working my way up the Treasure hunter. Wisdom titles ( Unlucky/lucky is like a dripping tap lol but im having fun)
just adding ......
I love the Zaishen rewards now, im doing vanqs, combining with cartography, earning points in the respective titles and slowly working my way up the Treasure hunter. Wisdom titles ( Unlucky/lucky is like a dripping tap lol but im having fun)
jensyea
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One more thing to add: The higher your lucky title the better a chance you have to NOT break an item when you salvage a rune or mod off the item. Not really that big of deal but a nice little somethin' somethin' the lucky title brings.
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undead living
also if you're the sort that opens chest, and you have a decent lucky/treasure hunter title. lockpicks saves money. with my rate currently in NM on 600g chest (the ones that contribute to the title) I can make a pick last about 3-4 chest, where if i bought the 600g keys, it would have costed me 1.8-2.4k instead i spent 1.25k
Star_Jewel
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Originally Posted by DolyakJockey
One more thing to add: The higher your lucky title the better a chance you have to NOT break an item when you salvage a rune or mod off the item. Not really that big of deal but a nice little somethin' somethin' the lucky title brings.
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That said, when opening the right chests, lockpicks contribute to Treasure Hunter (and the higher your Lucky/TH, the better your chance of being able to reuse picks) and the items can often be used to increase Wisdom. This is one of the reasons I buy lockpicks.
ogre_jd
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Originally Posted by Yol
Using lockpicks also contributes to the Lucky and Unlucky titles, depending on whether the lockpick is retained, so by using them you are working on 3 titles at once, which saves time and money.
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BladeDVD
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Originally Posted by milkopilko
Why do so many people open locked chests with lockpicks? Do they all intend to spend lots of platinum to finish their treasure hunter title? If they never reach the end of the title that means they should have just sold all their lock picks that they used right?
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If you're talking about hard mode, then you have a better chance of getting high value drops from HM chests.
Aside from that, some folks just like the gamble or shiny things. Chests (and their related titles) are really just meant to be gold sinks (aside from the salvage benefit), so it is kind of meant to be a way to throw away money with a little chance at a nice drop...kind of like the slots in Vegas.
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by tasha
Unless you're prepared to scrape for every g you reasonably can opening chests will result in a net loss.
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I have been pretty lucky with my drops, getting a 20-30e item every stack or 2, and 20-50k drops every now and then too.
Also, shittons of elite tomes. Per stack of lockpicks, I get like 20-30 elite tomes, and a lot of those happen to be rit for some reason.
So: Stack of lockpicks = 300k
Let's assume I use up 1 stack: I will get 1 item, let's say worth 20e. 10 drops worth ~20k and 20 elite tomes worth an average of 7k/ea.
Net gain: 20e = ~150k + 200k from the items + 140k from elite tomes = ~490k - 300 = 190k net gain.
This is the worst average, I've had better and worse tbh.
Zenzai
Just because you happen to have good luck, doesn't make the results typical for each player. Please make note of the fallacy.
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
This is untrue. I have opened little over 4k chests the last couple months, and I have experienced that running chest -especially in HM- results in a net GAIN of money.
I have been pretty lucky with my drops, getting a 20-30e item every stack or 2, and 20-50k drops every now and then too. Also, shittons of elite tomes. Per stack of lockpicks, I get like 20-30 elite tomes, and a lot of those happen to be rit for some reason. So: Stack of lockpicks = 300k Let's assume I use up 1 stack: I will get 1 item, let's say worth 20e. 10 drops worth ~20k and 20 elite tomes worth an average of 7k/ea. Net gain: 20e = ~150k + 200k from the items + 140k from elite tomes = ~490k - 300 = 190k net gain. This is the worst average, I've had better and worse tbh. |
Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by DolyakJockey
One more thing to add: The higher your lucky title the better a chance you have to NOT break an item when you salvage a rune or mod off the item. Not really that big of deal but a nice little somethin' somethin' the lucky title brings.
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Lucky: lockpick retention
Wisdom: salvage bonus
Treasure Hunter: lockpick retention and salvage bonus
FengShuiDove
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
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Quaker
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Originally Posted by milkopilko
Why do so many people open locked chests with lockpicks?
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1. It's fun. I play the game for fun.
2. Contrary to some people's opinion, it doesn't cost that much. In the past it was actually profitable to open chests, but these days, given many factors, the demand for most items you get from the chests is rather low. However, there are still good mods and skins to be had.
I would concede that, if you are new to the game and don't have much gold to spare, it may not be economical to open chests any more - which is a shame (ref. #1)
3. I have 9,962 chests opened, so I may as well go for the title. (However, I don't/won't "chest farm".)
4. It also affects my lucky/unlucky titles, but that's not why I do it.
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
Errrr, uhhhh... what chests are you opening? Cause in my 3,500 opens I sure as heck haven't had that kind of experience, and that represents VQing the whole game and opening chests in every area across all continents, plus elite areas.
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Also, if after opening 4k chests the average remains, I think it can be considered an average. q9 15^50 items go for 10-25k depending on item, and you get one of those not often, but often enough.. Sup Vigs do a lot etc.
If you're really that unlucky, then I guess chest running isn't your thing.
It could be my vision is blurred, because it's really hard for me to keep track of whether or not I make money, since my chest running is in between DoASC's. So, I make quite an amount of money there too...
Whirl E Vic
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
Errrr, uhhhh... what chests are you opening? Cause in my 3,500 opens I sure as heck haven't had that kind of experience, and that represents VQing the whole game and opening chests in every area across all continents, plus elite areas.
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In my experience (~5k chests) you do come close to making money back, but its probably a small loss (10-20%) (I run Boreal mostly, with some jade sea, pongmei and mirror of lyss thrown in for variety). Some stacks of picks are indeed profitable. Some you only get junk. Measure for measure, selling the popular mods and, of course, elite tomes help out.
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by Whirl E Vic
That analysis is highly skewed by the "20-30e" item. Not saying that OP didn't get something good, but I don't think that its a representative sample.
In my experience (~5k chests) you do come close to making money back, but its probably a small loss (10-20%) (I run Boreal mostly, with some jade sea, pongmei and mirror of lyss thrown in for variety). Some stacks of picks are indeed profitable. Some you only get junk. Measure for measure, selling the popular mods and, of course, elite tomes help out. |