Will GWAMM become easier as GW2 approaches closer

mage767

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Well, GWAMM is already easy if you max account-wide titles.

Changes to survivor/drunk now allows those with max account wide titles to actually skip vqing Tyria + leg vq, and STILL get GWAMM.

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Which is what I'm doing for my 4th GWAMM. I already had 3 before the update

Lensor

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Join Date: Jan 2008

The final survivor/drunk changes has not made GWAMM easier, just faster.

What did make GWAMM *easier* was:
- Elite tomes counting for skill hunter
- Introduction of party title
- Luck/Unluck from chests
- Account wide treasure (account wide wisdom was more a convenience, since you could trade unids between chars)
- TexMod
- Introduction of Boxing and Kath Hammers. Not to mention the Halloween quests.
- K/L vanquishing bonuses
etc. etc.

enter_the_zone

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo View Post
I did it the old fashion way and didn't spend hours just clicking. I did drunkard while I was vanquishing or playing around with friends keeping the effects on kind of made it funny as well. I believe this was the original intent of the title. The problem was, IMO, many people started getting auto-click bots or complaining that they didn't want to stand around just clicking on alcohol and Anet reacted by giving into the masses and making it just like sweets and party (its a business and you need to keep the people happy). Now a title people didn't get because they didn't feel like keeping track of their minutes and trying to remember to have a drink while playing is being achieved by just sitting around clicking as fast as possible until you get to 10,000 minutes.
Yeah, most of them used an autoclick bot and still got it. Or used the zoning trick, and still got it. If anything stopped anyone getting drunkard, it was the time and/or money needed to get that much alcohol.

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Originally Posted by go cubs View Post
Days clicking before the update...

Used to take about 7 days of clicking every 3 minutes to max the title...
7 days is nothing in comparison to how long it takes to actually get that much booze and that's assuming you weren't using the zoning trick or a clickbot. Like I said, faster, not easier.

gremlin

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Originally Posted by pingu666 View Post
account wide, or some amount of credit for the rep titles would help. its pretty silly you can complete eotn, saving the world for the 4th time, and some dude wont craft you armour till you grind out some rep killing stuff. oh and you haveto pay for the armour, and supply materials.
All true and as for those Kurzics and Luxons you save the world and sort out their differences but do they open up their towns or trade with you nope.

distilledwill

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I've found GWAMM much more attainable with the new updates. Drunkard can be spammed and I would have had to have bought both sweet tooth and party animal points, whereas I can gain money whilst getting survivor and use that to buy Party Points.

Much easier. I'll have it done by the end of July.

Bright Star Shine

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Well, currently maxing Treasure Hunter, Wisdom, Lucky and Unlucky, and might go for Luxon, but doubt it, already have Kurzick so, meh.. Then I'm gonna go for GWAMM on my Ssin (already have it on my ele), so I'll know then. Of course when those 4 extra are maxed, getting GWAMM is gonna be a cakewalk tbh. I don't give a damn about money, and I've got enough sitting around, so if I'd do the money titles too, it's gonna be even easier.. W00t for going to have r1 KoaBD on creation :P

Also, don't have Survivor on my ele, so I could just as well skip eotn if I want lol. Hated grinding those titles for real..

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Well.. I dont subscribe to the current attitude that the day GW2 comes out they are going to have Psycho Gwen show up and bestow titles on everyone just before turning the lights out forever.

I hope GW continues far past the launch of GW2, as EQ has continued in spite of EQ2.

Would be a silly business model to trivialize this game down to a mere Feeder to GW2 and then shut it down. I think it deserves far more than that. GW2 does not have the features that attracted me to this game. GW will retain the features that make it a very nice entry level MMO, and remain friendly to people with lower end computer setups.

I think Anet will continue to make changes to this game that lessens the grind of doing titles.. and that is all. That was something that sensibly needed done, regardless of GW2.

Bright Star Shine

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I think Anet said something about keeping the game up after GW2 release. I think they won't shut down, out of pure nostalgia. They created something pretty awesome, so I doubt it will be taken down.

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post


7 days is nothing in comparison to how long it takes to actually get that much booze and that's assuming you weren't using the zoning trick or a clickbot. Like I said, faster, not easier.
Seeing as the clickbot was bannable..Not as many people used it(obviously i know people used it still) It didnt take very long to get the booze unless u farmed it all. I tried to get it and I got to 4,000 minutes before i stopped. Obviously it wasnt impossible and eventually I got it the old way but it took a long time.

Its faster, and while you think it may not be easier, I think it is, its a lot easier to click 10000 times as fast as possible then clicking every 3 minutes with a timer. Argue all you want, I wont change my opinion on that.

As far as if gwamm was made easier, it was made easier for older chars with 28-29 titles that never tried drunk and didnt have survivor. Now that they can get survivor, it isnt too hard. As far as overall gwamms just starting, it didnt really make it any easier

Bright Star Shine

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Lol dude, shittons of people used a clicker bot. I know a ton that did, and none of em got banned for it. After all, Anet can't track down if it's you behind your comp clicking every 3 minutes or that bot. And it was an easy way out when you went afk for a while, you could just afk in GH and let the bot do the rest. Not that I admit to ever doing it..

enter_the_zone

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Yeah, I mean I categorically didn't write an AutoHotkey bot to launch GW, log me in, stand about drinking every (roughly) 3 minutes for a random interval between 29 minutes and 49 minutes, log me off, wait a random interval between an hour and 3, then repeat. No sir, not me, I'd never automate a stupidly pointless delayed clicking title.

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I know that, tons of people did it, but the title itself was made a lot easier(the normal way)

TyrianFury

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Well I have been playing GW off and on again over the last 3 years. I really used to hammer it up until and shortly after Eye of the North came out but then lost interest except for a couple of weeks here or there when I'd get back into it for a very short while.

I'm up to 27 max titles and I'd love to get 30 before GW2 hits. I already have survivor so its either the 3 clicky titles or pour 300 + hours into luxon and get two of them. I only have 250k so what ever way I go getting another 3 with the funds I have seems a mountain to climb.

300 + hours grinding luxon is just insane, I question peoples sanity sometimes when they have some of these titles.....

Any suggestions for getting the 6 million gold to max out drunkard, sweets and party lol? I'm all for some less time consuming titles because lets face it they are not difficult, no skill is required for many of them just grind grind and more time then what is sensible.

Swingline

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Got gwamm on my warrior a while back. Going to do wisdom and treasure hunter titles then after those 2 are done i can get gwamm on all my characters very easily since i have max kurz and lux. IMHO GWAMM isnt easier but is a bit faster.

oscarmk

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I do not think it is easy at all. I have played this game almost since release and I do not have a single title maxed. I actually believe every single one requires absurd amounts of grinding and time. Granted I play mostly pvp but still.

afya

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Originally Posted by TyrianFury View Post
Well I have been playing GW off and on again over the last 3 years. I really used to hammer it up until and shortly after Eye of the North came out but then lost interest except for a couple of weeks here or there when I'd get back into it for a very short while.

I'm up to 27 max titles and I'd love to get 30 before GW2 hits. I already have survivor so its either the 3 clicky titles or pour 300 + hours into luxon and get two of them. I only have 250k so what ever way I go getting another 3 with the funds I have seems a mountain to climb.

300 + hours grinding luxon is just insane, I question peoples sanity sometimes when they have some of these titles.....

Any suggestions for getting the 6 million gold to max out drunkard, sweets and party lol? I'm all for some less time consuming titles because lets face it they are not difficult, no skill is required for many of them just grind grind and more time then what is sensible.
For luxon and kurz, only way to get these fast is MQSC and MTSC(i don't know if there is any pug for MTSC tho. The DTSC is nerfed)
For money titles, you have to wait for the festivals and farm those like no tmr. The best is probably halloween and wintersday when you can farm quests, but you just missed them. Coming up there is Easter. You can still farm some sweets.

Swingline

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For luxon and kurz, only way to get these fast is MQSC and MTSC(i don't know if there is any pug for MTSC tho. The DTSC is nerfed)
For money titles, you have to wait for the festivals and farm those like no tmr. The best is probably halloween and wintersday when you can farm quests, but you just missed them. Coming up there is Easter. You can still farm some sweets.
For MTSC you need to join HzH ally now because they dont allow pugs into their groups anymore, and yea dtsc is long gone.

Daeheru

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All of the titles are easy on their own, it's just a matter of putting in the time to get enough for GWAMM. I don't think ANet will make them any easier.

mage767

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Originally Posted by TyrianFury View Post
Well I have been playing GW off and on again over the last 3 years. I really used to hammer it up until and shortly after Eye of the North came out but then lost interest except for a couple of weeks here or there when I'd get back into it for a very short while.

I'm up to 27 max titles and I'd love to get 30 before GW2 hits. I already have survivor so its either the 3 clicky titles or pour 300 + hours into luxon and get two of them. I only have 250k so what ever way I go getting another 3 with the funds I have seems a mountain to climb.

300 + hours grinding luxon is just insane, I question peoples sanity sometimes when they have some of these titles.....
Any suggestions for getting the 6 million gold to max out drunkard, sweets and party lol? I'm all for some less time consuming titles because lets face it they are not difficult, no skill is required for many of them just grind grind and more time then what is sensible.

The solution is simple! Just play during the double faction weekends whenever that occurs. I completed my Kurz from 4.5mil to 10mil in just 2 days during this special weekend. Indeed, it was crazy non-stop play, but I saved TONS of time because 1) 2x faction was gained, so half time saved, 2) Speed team formation b/c everyone had only 1 thing in mind, i.e. max faction!, and 3) Speed vanquishing, i.e., exp. players take few minutes less than average in vanquishing MQSC/DTSC. Thus, even more time saved compared to doing it on regular days! Thus, it took less than have the time of 300 hrs you quote. You just have to play *non-stop* during the special weekend.

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Heck, I used the same idea for the Luxon title.

TyrianFury

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Originally Posted by mage767 View Post
The solution is simple! Just play during the double faction weekends whenever that occurs. I completed my Kurz from 4.5mil to 10mil in just 2 days during this special weekend. Indeed, it was crazy non-stop play, but I saved TONS of time because 1) 2x faction was gained, so half time saved, 2) Speed team formation b/c everyone had only 1 thing in mind, i.e. max faction!, and 3) Speed vanquishing, i.e., exp. players take few minutes less than average in vanquishing MQSC/DTSC. Thus, even more time saved compared to doing it on regular days! Thus, it took less than have the time of 300 hrs you quote. You just have to play *non-stop* during the special weekend.

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Heck, I used the same idea for the Luxon title.
I'll see how I get on during the next round of events. Thanks for the pointers guys. My ele can farm the veatirrs no problem so maybe during the birthday event I can get some sweets. I'm in a luxon guild so I'll try the MQSC, just vanquishing with heros my best run is 18-20 minutes.

I never ever thought I'd get legendary vanquisher as it bored me to death almost so who knows maybe I'll end up with GWAMM too. The down side is too many other good games are out at the moment or due to come out soon.......

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
If you spent days clicking... well, that's just sad. Drunkard isn't easier, it's just faster to get. There is a difference. By far, the vast majority of time spent on that title is in actually acquiring sufficient booze to max it.
Have to disagree there, Drukand was much more of a pain in the arse the Sweet or Party and most of that hassle was in the clicking not the collecting of booze, however it was a title change that should have been made imo

distilledwill

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I'm quite looking forward to about 4 years down the line when I can get my GWAMM title out in the new Lion's Arch (or the new Kamadan?) and people will be like...

"Wooow, where did you get that title?"

Not everyone from Guild Wars is moving to Guild Wars 2, out of those people, not everyone has acheived GWAMM, out of those who have, not everyone will play past the first few months and so on and so on. Eventually GWAMM will be like R7 weapons as old school players drop off the radar.

Then I will be king. KING I TELL YOU!

Showtime

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Lets see.. they could make all party points spammable and all candies spammable too. Tonics, pumpkin cookies, wintergreens... clickity click...

And for all those who say they wont ever... Remember all my posts about how stupid the drunken title was making you waste 10k minutes... I got mines a little while after the update.

Why they might do it. Simple. The more rewards waiting for you in GW2, the more likely you are to buy GW2.

I think GWAMMs should have a boss glow of their choosing.

KamikazeChicken

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Considering either Savior title is doable within 2-3 months of VQing with heroes, I don't see why it really matters.

inscribed

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Originally Posted by showtime View Post
i think gwamms should have a boss glow of their choosing.
awesome! make it so!

Fay Vert

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Originally Posted by inscribed View Post
awesome! make it so!
+1

Would also like it if it activated the effects of all other titles so I don't have to keep switching titles in different areas. Stupid Luxons and Kurzicks could just talk to me too regardless.