Buff Arcane Echo and Archane Mimicry

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

Simply put, these are skills that heroes are not very good at using. And hence I think they should be buffed to promote human players. The buff would rather simply mean to reduce the energy cost of the skills to levels where they see more usage.

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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uh, they're both fine as they are. Both are very niche skills but are useful in their own situations. No reason to buff them, as they are already nicely balanced.

Uriel_Wolfblood

Uriel_Wolfblood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2009

The House of Wolfblood

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So because heroes don't use it right they should buff the skill? There is a big list on the wiki of skills heroes don't use right, do those need to be buffed too? Or perhaps just give heroes an A.I. revamp? I can foresee that seeing as how heroes are getting a lot more attention since the update so hopefully all these skills will become more viable with an A.I. update.

There are plenty of ways to manage energy without changing the skill. Besides I really can't think of very many practical uses for it. If you're having problems with energy try Auspicious Incantation. I personally think they are right where they need to be.

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

As pointed out above the skills are fine its the heroes' AI that need fixing to use these skills and others properly.

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

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auspicious incantation + arcane echo =win

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

you do kinda need to use both of them together in most builds ^

I wouldnt mind mimicry getting a recharge buff

Zenzai

Zenzai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/E

I'd rather them be altered so only a mesmer primary can use it. Too powerful as is.

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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As said above, they fill a very nice niche and they are not really meant to be used by heroes, because heroes are stupid as hell. My favorite example: when chest running, I have to micro "Can't Touch This!" on my paragons when running through Rot Wallow groups, because they don't use it in Wallow groups, ever. However, when I run through a random group of Jade Brotherhood, the first skill BOTH paragons will use is "Can't Touch This!". That's how incredibly stupid they are.

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
As said above, they fill a very nice niche and they are not really meant to be used by heroes, because heroes are stupid as hell. My favorite example: when chest running, I have to micro "Can't Touch This!" on my paragons when running through Rot Wallow groups, because they don't use it in Wallow groups, ever. However, when I run through a random group of Jade Brotherhood, the first skill BOTH paragons will use is "Can't Touch This!". That's how incredibly stupid they are.
I lol at this because he speaks the truth, especially in the chest run outside Zos, they use CTT when Oni popup but not when we run into Rot Wallows

Anyways on topic, they don't need to be fixed they already are powerful when used correctly. The only thing id change is the casting time but that's just my opinion.

Gabs88

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2011

I dont want heroes to use them, I want them to see more use among human players. And usually unless its a specific nuking build with a tank or something, its not worth the 15 energy cost.

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

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Ur not validating points and fact just experiances so I doubt you'll get a change. Not to Mention mesmers are overly good enough.

Want in one hand, spit in the other ... See which fills faster

Nilator

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Hell I use Mimicry almost everytime I heal with a full human team.

Hb + Mimicry + UA ally = 202 heal party + 1160 infuse.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

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My heroes use mimicry very well, echo does suck though.

HotSoup

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

These are both used in various SC's that involve mesmers, which is a decent amount. Especially since Mesmers are/have been on the rise in speed clears. Mesmers don't need a buff, they are already the most amazing spikers ever.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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/notsigned bc heroes are good enough without them

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzai View Post
I'd rather them be altered so only a mesmer primary can use it. Too powerful as is.
Agreed. I would like to see Bonetti's Defense get a change so only Warriors can use it too.