Minionway? My new 7hero build

Mooniez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

HOT

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08 Apr 2011 at 03:10 - 1

comments suggestions additions?
thinking of changing the dervs out for panic and fevered dreams mesmers.
about to run it in factions HM because theres just so many corpses

EDIT: The second derv sucks I need help with him. Changing the dervs out for the mesmers adds tremendous survival but makes battles a lot slower

I Am The Fear

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2010

Guess Why My Chaos Gloves Are [WiTe]

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08 Apr 2011 at 03:51 - 2

For one thing you're missing an elite on one of the Necros. :P

Doug4130

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2011

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08 Apr 2011 at 04:11 - 3

yeah, I mean I know that for the n/rt healer the elite isn't as much of a focus as it is for other builds but there are still some decent options (xinrae's weapon, pain of disenchantment, ravenous gaze)

Sir Baddock

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Endemic Warfare

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08 Apr 2011 at 04:21 - 4

Dual "Minions" (skill slot #2 on the MM's) should probably be dropped. (AoTL should be fine without it).

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

08 Apr 2011 at 05:34 - 5

Splinter Weapon is significantly more powerful at 14 than at 10. Swap Spirit Rift and Splinter around imo. You shouldn't really need 4 rezzes either.

PS: I wouldn't call this minionway... you've just got two people with minions. Refer to Jagged Bones thread for a real minionway.

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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08 Apr 2011 at 05:44 - 6

Rejuvenation Will die instantly, due to minions constant degen.

Arctica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Hungary

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

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08 Apr 2011 at 06:22 - 7

just a few sugesstions:

- drop rejuvenation for Xinrea's weapon,
- I'd use Ancestor's Rage instead of Spirit Rift, would also use a second splinter weapon for Painful Bond,
- I'd also drop the second derv and would use a Fevered Dreams mesmer instead,
- one MM is enough imo, you should use either the AotL or the Jagged Bones variant. If you want to focus on spreading conditions, I'd choose Jagged bones,
- I'd also bring a command para for one of the MMs. Or maybe an Ineptitude illusion mesmer.

Daisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

California

[Vr]

E/Me

08 Apr 2011 at 08:27 - 8

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Originally Posted by Mooniez

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comments suggestions additions?
thinking of changing the dervs out for panic and fevered dreams mesmers.
about to run it in factions HM because theres just so many corpses

EDIT: The second derv sucks I need help with him. Changing the dervs out for the mesmers adds tremendous survival but makes battles a lot slower #1 (Ranger) is terrible.

Incendiary arrows + ignite arrows would be far better. Troll sucks btw.

#2 ... you know what, listing off each change individually will take far too long. It's much easier to merely state what you did RIGHT, rather than wrong.

Ebon standard of honor is a very useful skill.

your necro and rit elite choices are alright, though by far not the best combination, and bad choices abound. (no splinter on the channeling rit? wtf?)

Dervish heroes are meh, the builds are terrible, and flesh of my flesh is a horrid option for them.

honestly the SS nec and channeling rit are the only halfways decent bars. scrap the rest and rework from there.

hrusha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

08 Apr 2011 at 08:41 - 9

Originally Posted by kajusbonus

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Rejuvenation Will die instantly, due to minions constant degen. Rejuvenation affects party members, not minions.

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

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08 Apr 2011 at 11:00 - 10

U shouldn't slot minion animating skills across more tha 1 char if one of them is using Aotl. He uses Aotl-> all corpses gone->gg?(no, counteractive).

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

08 Apr 2011 at 11:20 - 11

Honestly I find the team pretty bad, it will work just as most teams will but not very well.

Also the builds are hardly original, mostly just taken from existing pvx build and put together.

One more thing, if you are going with three physical damage dealers you should really have some kind of physical support all you have is splinter-weapon.

Kojima

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2010

Home

En Caligne Veritas [DARK]

R/Rt

08 Apr 2011 at 13:01 - 12

For me, I usually just have to use 4 skills if I use Incendiary Arrow : Triple shot, dual shot, ignite arrow, fork arrow.

Somehow, the combo works well for me. No energy waste and spamming all the way.

However, I only use this in NM before the Votex in NF.

SongOf

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

08 Apr 2011 at 14:02 - 13

With many minions, you'll want an Avatar of Dwayna dervish. Your minions will constantly be healed to max health because the healing is allied-wide.

Also, I strongly suggest Recuperation. The +3 regen is also allied-wide, so your minions will last much longer.

Lastly, AndrewSX is right, AoTL does not synergize well with a 2nd MM. It may mistakenly use up 5 corpses when it only needed 1 more minion, robbing the 2nd MM of 4 corpses it could have used.

Mooniez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

HOT

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09 Apr 2011 at 03:12 - 14

I need an IAS if I use incendiary arrows/ignite. I guess I'll just use NRA but it eats energy. EDIT: I'll use frenzy for now as NRA takes two slots
Also: do paragon shouts work on minions? If so will someone suggest a build that would synergize well with the jagged bones mm I'll switch out the AoTL for it.
I will switch out the second dervish with a fevered dreams mes
I'll get recup and xinrae's weap when I can (recup for now xinrae's when I feel less lazy xD)

SongOf

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

09 Apr 2011 at 12:12 - 15

Straight from official wiki:

Four chants that affect spirits are: Anthem of Envy, Anthem of Disruption, Anthem of Weariness and Crippling Anthem.

If you decide to add a para, "Go For The Eyes!" works on minions, and is also e-management (b/c it's adrenaline cost, you net gain energy from Leadership)

Basically, spirits use 'attack skill's, while minions use regular (physical) attacks, so look skills that affect 'allies' and those conditions