Why is it important to be 'rich' in a game?

Laraja

Laraja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow

Descendents of Honor

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That's just a question I'm constantly pondering, especially in a game like GW where you can pretty much get max and elite armor just by playing through the game. People put so much effort into amassing ingame money, I have to wonder if they pursue real money with as much effort in real life.

What's your reason for acquiring large amounts of ingame cash and what purpose does it serve?

Just a question...

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

There's not much to do in this game.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

I am amassing ig cash so when I stop playing I can spread the wealth to my guild to hopefully allow them to gain 50/50 easier.

shanan1979

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2010

R/

I really like business type games so I like to play the "economy" side of GW. Amassing a great fortune isnt as important to me than making a big profit on something. So I got my wealth by doing what I like, buying low selling high. I like GW also for the MMORPG stuff too that is why i hope there is a good crafting system in GW2 so I can play the market there too.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laraja View Post
That's just a question I'm constantly pondering, especially in a game like GW where you can pretty much get max and elite armor just by playing through the game.
That's the thing. You've got max gear and beat the campaigns, now what?

A) Quit.
B) Amass pretty things.

So yeah, alot of people did pick A, thus the only ones you see around are B.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Well, I spent a lot of mine of runes and insignia for my heroes (even before the new rage), on maxing out titles for HoM and GWAMM...

right now, I'm just adding some up, got 161k. No idea what I'll spend it all on, maybe a communing obsidian headpiece for my ritualist.

P.S. Oh, I also often give money to my guildies. But they've almost stopped playing...

jray14

jray14

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

Ohm Mahnee Pedmay [Hoom]

Pretty much the same reason as IRL I think, and sometimes as a substitute since it's easier to do in-game: feeling important, enjoying it as a sport, believing it to be a source of happiness, buying rare or shiny things, getting your perceived needs met reliably, or practicing generosity.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

I won the halloween contest last year and sold the minipet for an imo ridiculous amount of ecto.
After paying for 50/50 and GWAMM for my guildleader and myself I started helping random players getting on their way to at least 30/50.
I gave some player who went out of his way to run me through the desert to get all the missions 40e and an ambrace just for the fun of giving.
I plan on entering again this year in both the halloween and wintersday contests to get more money, just for handing it out again!
Time will be tight with the release of GW2 looming around that thime I think and lots of peeps need help filling that hall.
That's my only reason for getting richer atm.

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Really honestly it's not important to be super uber rich in the game unless you do RMT.
I play the game because I genuinely like it and I happen to get stuff along the way to sell so I can equip my toons. The only reason that I put reserves of cash away is for treasure hunter title because I like going after titles in video games because it actually gives me a goal to play towards.

Venganza

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2011

Fire

GW is about titles and "stuff"

Always has been, always will be.

You do not have to have a q9 BDS on every hero, but some people do, and like it that way.

Totally up to you how you play and what you aspire to do.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

I like pretties, I don't like having to farm a long time after I discover a pretty I like in order to afford it, i'm pre-emptively amassing wealth so when I find something I want, I can buy it there and then.

Although, compared to come players I wouldn't call myself "rich". Never had more than a stack of ectos in a liquid state at any one time.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

It's kind of human nature to see something "just out of" your price range and really really want it badly. I remember the first time I saw one of those everlasting tonics and I just "had to have one". Otherwise, most of us do kind of reach that point where you realize that all the junk like tonics, weapons, armor, etc... doesn't really add anything at all to your gaming experience and you start to re-prioritize.

For me, short of selling off a few of the genuinely valuable items I do own (well, 40+ ecto=valuable in my eyes), I'm just living on the edge financially just keeping up with outfitting 7 heroes for multiple toons.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Odinius View Post
I won the halloween contest last year and sold the minipet for an imo ridiculous amount of ecto.
After paying for 50/50 and GWAMM for my guildleader and myself I started helping random players getting on their way to at least 30/50.
I gave some player who went out of his way to run me through the desert to get all the missions 40e and an ambrace just for the fun of giving.
I plan on entering again this year in both the halloween and wintersday contests to get more money, just for handing it out again!
Time will be tight with the release of GW2 looming around that thime I think and lots of peeps need help filling that hall.
That's my only reason for getting richer atm.
Same here, mostly, except swap "Halloween" and "mini" for "Wintersday" and "tonic". Sold the tonic, used a chunk of the money to do my consumable titles and properly kit out all of my heroes and get myself Obby armor. I've probably spent twice as much on my friends than I have myself at this point.

Yes, having plenty of money in-game is nice. But I don't care about trying to find the rarest shield ever or anything like that. I have a small guild of good friends, as well as many good friends I've met in the game, and helping and giving stuff to them is far more important to me.

Sir Baddock

Sir Baddock

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Endemic Warfare

W/

Money buy's titles, titles transfer various rewards to Guild Wars 2. Simple really.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

What FoxBat said.

After playing through the game more than once, you need to have goals. Most people aren't very generous at heart, so their goals are simplistic like "get a BDS, chaos gloves, FoW armor, and VS".

Other options tend to be more meaningful but not as "showy": equipping your character with every skill in the game (no title for this), playing through on another character (extra work for nothing since mercenaries don't get added benefits), going for every available title (pointless after 30th), helping random people with the missions/quests, PvP.

Money buys titles is BS. Sure you can buy minis, hero armor, armor, weapons. The only titles you can buy are Survivor, Zaishen, Wisdom, Sweet Tooth, Alcohol, Party unless you also buy runs. If you also buy runs for every mission, cap, & vanquish you might as well not play at all.

P.S. read http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n32061569/
http://www.gamerdna.com/quizzes/bart...mer-psychology ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_Test

RunningInSquares

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Washington

The Sacred Order of Teriyaki

W/E

It's been said, but I am also trying to get rich to get to 50/50. After that, I'll spread the wealth and feel better about myself.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

Quote:
Why is it important to be 'rich' in a game?
It isnt.....

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion View Post
Money buys titles is BS. Sure you can buy minis, hero armor, armor, weapons. The only titles you can buy are Survivor, Zaishen, Wisdom, Sweet Tooth, Alcohol, Party unless you also buy runs.
Treasure Hunter costs millions for the necessary keys and lockpicks. Likewise for Lucky/Unlucky, which are very hard titles to max without spending some time on Nine Rings in addition to lockpick costs. It's fair to call those "bought" titles, even though you can't buy services to run them. You can't reasonably expect to get any of them without spending large amounts of cash.

OTOH, I've never spent a cent on Survivor or any of the consumable titles, and as little as possible on Wisdom. While you can buy those titles, it doesn't take unreasonably long to get them if you rely on consumable drops, Nick gifts, and friends who are willing to let you ID their gold drops.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

All of my wealth, such as it is, just came my way by playing the game normally and getting very lucky with drops and making a few good trades.

I did farm for a few things, like a guild hall when they were 70K and Obsidian armor when ecto were 14K, but for the most part I have just been very lucky with drops.

I do agree with several other posters that picking up shiny objects is most of what the end content is about and being able to spread the wealth amoungst friends and guildies is a good thing as well.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aba View Post
It isnt.....
if you are trying to keep up with the jones that is fine, but there is no need to be rich---play the game for what YOU want to get out of it--and if peer pressure gets to you -----

I see no reason to be rich, I have what I need to play the game, and as for the rest, I play for fun (and to see if I will ever max the chests opened title). I play to RELAX not compete with others who sit in kamadan all day long spamming: 'please buy this ugly way over priced weapon'; apples and oranges.

If you want to be rich, that is your personal goal, but it is not the goal of the game.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Most people have little left to do besides try for 50/50. And no way can you get 50/50 just by playing through the game.

Anyone who believes that really hasn't worked out just how expensive it is. Specifically, Obsidian, Vabbian and Elite Kurz/Luxon armors are required, the rest can be the cheapest elite armor you can get. You need to get all the extra heroes and their elite armor, which means either farming the items or buying them. And you need 1 tormented, 1 Oppressor and 1 destroyer weapon and then 12 more of any of those types.

Assuming you only PVE, you've also got to buy keys for the PVP statue, or play a form of the game you don't like.

cosyfiep said it perfectly, it's not a game goal to be rich, more of an objective people set themselves so they have something to do.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettM View Post
Treasure Hunter costs millions for the necessary keys and lockpicks. Likewise for Lucky/Unlucky, which are very hard titles to max without spending some time on Nine Rings in addition to lockpick costs. It's fair to call those "bought" titles, even though you can't buy services to run them. You can't reasonably expect to get any of them without spending large amounts of cash.

OTOH, I've never spent a cent on Survivor or any of the consumable titles, and as little as possible on Wisdom. While you can buy those titles, it doesn't take unreasonably long to get them if you rely on consumable drops, Nick gifts, and friends who are willing to let you ID their gold drops.
How many people go for, let alone max, Lucky/Unlucky and Treasurehunter+wisdom?

If all you want is 50/50 and GWAMM, they're not required.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Depends on definition of rich - ages back i was just under the 1000k mark and not being one for fancy weapons/armor it took me several months to whittle that amount down to under 100k - and was on small minor things.
I`ll spend a bit of time making another 100 consets an selling them so i have some cash again to buy minis.
But when i do make/sell the consets its not the money that makes me feel gd but knowing i earned it myself farming the mats ( few runs daily for a week or 2 - nothing serious ) - bit like the feeling when you get your first ever paycheck in a job.
Some ppl like the challenge of making a huge amount of cash - finding ways to get that little extra something or getting every mini ingame or an uber rare sword .
Sometimes its not the goal to be rich but finding a way to get there is - eg starting with 20k and seeing how far it can take you via power trading - some of us may see that as boring and risky but others sieze that challenge like its life of death and thats their "rush" and they enjoy that sort of thing.

Life - where the hell are you when sj boardwalks open - theres usually quite an amount of 9ring afkers lagging up gw with their minis out ... they are usually also the ones with the damn u2434 l34533 crap in trade ( like anyone cares ) - Ive seen a few guildies go bankrupt on those events.Then again you may not have factions campaign ... bleh just ignore me lol

AndrewSX

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

1-Define what is "Rich" for you. A stack of ecto? of armbrace? a panel maybe? It matter imo. If you are a experienced player but that (like me) trown all his efforts in titles almost ignoring money, have more than 50 e is a mirage. Then open "High end" section of auction, and look at bids. It's not the same idea of rich.

2-Why everyone want do be rich? To be able to insta-buy every kind of stuff you like that pass in Kama trade chat. Instead of making calculations (as i have to do) to do not spend too much money when u buy something.

P.S: ninja'd by above poster about richness thing.

GWfan#1

GWfan#1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2009

My Character Liked Gwen [First]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laraja View Post
What's your reason for acquiring large amounts of ingame cash and what purpose does it serve?
I want the most expensive items and then when I get them I don't want them any more so I sell them for more than I bought them for.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Why is it important?

Some people want to max out the Party Animal, Drunkard and Sweet Tooth titles and don't want to wait till a holiday rolls around.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewSX View Post
1-Define what is "Rich" for you. A stack of ecto?
I think the stack of ecto is a pretty decent benchmark. I would bet that that level of in game wealth is probably putting you in the top .5% or so of the active game population.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion View Post
How many people go for, let alone max, Lucky/Unlucky and Treasurehunter+wisdom?
Don't forget there's people who buy gold and lots of it for those titles. Also the treasure hunter title is easy to max at Easter.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion View Post
Money buys titles is BS.
You ain't hitting GWAMM without a money title somewhere... and title hunters usually end up after either that, or else HoM which sucks money in its own way.

Heck I've seen some people complain about skill hunter, which is ~300kish? Add significantly more if you want it via tomes.

Lady S Shiva

Lady S Shiva

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

LOD???

W/Mo

Not to be rich, but it's good to have some saving to buy things when you need them, like the titles every1 listed above.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Some people have a lot of fun creating and hoarding wealth for themselves. It is just another way of playing the game.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

The entire point of accumulating wealth for me is to make 50/50 & GWAMM before GW2. Otherwise I spend all my money on cons for doing record runs/dungeons with friends/guilds.

carnage-runner

carnage-runner

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada, B.C. Vancouver. aka.. amazing.

[Sith]

W/Me

Simple... The more money you have the better you are at GW... If this isn't obvious by now... Well.. I dunno. [/sarcasm]

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

Quote:
I play to RELAX not compete with others who sit in kamadan all day long spamming: 'please buy this ugly way over priced weapon'; apples and oranges.
If you want to be rich, that is your personal goal, but it is not the goal of the game.
This.
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Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

Because I happen to enjoy the majority of the items that are considered 'rich' items. I ACTUALLY LIKE OBSIDIAN ARMOR(Wowomgbbq i kno right), I love the froggy, I love VS, I love Crystalline swords, I also love people who QQ about us who like the high end items, so I buy them to annoy those people. Nah, I kid, well, sorta.

I do the same for RL, I buy a big TV, lots of nice clothing, expencive chocolate, and yeah. I personally see no problem in it. I'm materialistic, I can admit that, to a degree.

inb4 women are gold diggers

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Titles mostly. But for the excessively rich, most of them need to compensate for their small pvp skills.

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets View Post
Titles mostly. But for the excessively rich, most of them need to compensate for their small pvp skills.
Yeah, and the PvE peeps don't buy gear because they can't afford it. Those people who go for very high end items tend to be high end PvP players too. -.- Especially because they have 'trends' there

Sytherek

Sytherek

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Florida, USA

R/E

I don't really care how other people play the game, or what they want.

Me? I have zero interest in GWAMM or 50/50. At 30/50, I'm getting everything practical for GW2, and I just play now for relaxation. I've got the only mini-pets that matter to me.

To each their own, I say.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Simple answer is it isn't important at all to be rich.

Unless you are going to fill up the hom and then money acts as a shortcut.

Pretty much everything in the hom takes either time money or both.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

Important? Important to who/m?

Anyone starts the "I have 16 pairs of chaos gloves on obby armour!" I sleep soundly that night. Rather them than me!