Why vanquishing and missions are meaningless for comparison

Might add I went afk for 15 minutes to eat chicken.^ My screenshot of 3 skilling VQ mq Well that doesn't really matter since there's no /age on the screen anyway .

I get a trophy now?

You still have a MM and SoS, which is all you need for a vanquish like MQ. You can tell by your 2 monk heroes energy that there was little to no damage to your heroes, everything was just being soaked up by minions. Not forgetting your Bsurge hero...

Take out your nec, rit and ele, replace them with a sin, derv and warrior

You still have a MM and SoS, which is all you need for a vanquish like MQ. You can tell by your 2 monk heroes energy that there was little to no damage to your heroes, everything was just being soaked up by minions. Not forgetting your Bsurge hero...

Take out your nec, rit and ele, replace them with a sin, derv and warrior I find this screenshot funny. Codex in pve.

Take out your nec, rit and ele, replace them with a sin, derv and warrior I do believe the point of the thread may still stand..

You did not read his post, did you? ...did you read his?

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news flash! news flash!

necessity does not imply sufficiency!

coming up: if the ground is wet, does it mean it's raining?! the answer may surprise you! more at 11. Quoted for truth. =)

Also - I always felt that optimizing our heroes was more for efficiency than for mere completion(with the exception of certain end-game content) so that we can VQ and what have you easier and faster... just because you can VQ an area doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve upon your speed and effectiveness.

No . Thank you dear sir for such elaborate and well thought out answer

...anyone else?

Thank you dear sir for such elaborate and well thought out answer

...anyone else? No because DoA doesn't equal general pve. Usually you need a bit different aproach for it.

Quoted for truth. =)

Also - I always felt that optimizing our heroes was more for efficiency than for mere completion(with the exception of certain end-game content) so that we can VQ and what have you easier and faster... just because you can VQ an area doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve upon your speed and effectiveness. This thread was an argument against the people who claim their own build is good because it has done several VQ's easily.

No because DoA doesn't equal general pve. Usually you need a bit different aproach for it. So vanquishing and HM missions are meaningless
But so is DoA nm

SO wtf is meaningful to you?

Killing nm raptors outside rata sum?

So vanquishing and HM missions are meaningless
But so is DoA nm

SO wtf is meaningful to you?

Killing nm raptors outside rata sum? This is where the argument for efficiency of builds come in; the thread was for the reason I listed above yours.

DoA doesn't test the efficiency of a build - you don't need the same elements in the DoA that you need in a normal VQ.

So vanquishing and HM missions are meaningless
But so is DoA nm

SO wtf is meaningful to you?

Killing nm raptors outside rata sum? You summed it up pretty good there mate. This is another one of those topics that ain't going nowhere because no one can agree on a clear cut answer. We're all trying to shoot each other down in hopes that after all the mess is cleared up we're the last one left standing. I'm right and you're wrong. If you attempt to disprove me I have an army full of semantics, theorycrafts and an uncanny ability to twist the english language around in my favor.