Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO does guesting people cost money?
Suggestion: guest invites are free.
Alternatively: you can talk to an AB guy and choose whether you want to play luxon or kurzick.
Guest invites
Sankt Hallvard
Rob Roy The Divine
+1
why can't the luxon/kurz dudes in GTOB not just have AB added to them?
why can't the luxon/kurz dudes in GTOB not just have AB added to them?
Outerworld
notsigned/ is 100g really that much?
LifeInfusion
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notsigned/ is 100g really that much?
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beerelf
Go out and Kill a couple of creatures in HM. Problem solved.
/notsigned
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RedDog91
The point of the suggestion forum is for discussion on why or why not you think a change should/shouldn't be made.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it.
lemming
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Go out and Kill a couple of creatures in HM. Problem solved.
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Although, it needs to be said - it's a lot easier now that zquests exist.
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The point of the suggestion forum is for discussion on why or why not you think a change should/shouldn't be made.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it. |
Rob Roy The Divine
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The point of the suggestion forum is for discussion on why or why not you think a change should/shouldn't be made.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it. |
aga
The 100g fee has never bothered, if you need a guest and the person who is going to guest you doesn't have any gold on him it won't hurt you to wait for a little while, or maybe he could ask someone else to guest you instead.
Reverend Dr
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notsigned/ is 100g really that much?
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Shijou
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On a PvP-only character, yes it is.
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Reverend Dr
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Sell a zkey in gtob.
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"Hold on I have to go sell a key, give me 10 minutes"
When I am on my PvE character for PvP the cost to guest doesn't bother me in the slightest, but when on a PvP-only character it becomes a useless obstacle.
Still Number One
agreed, this is an unnecessary obstacle.
/signed
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Lanier
I dont understand these guys who are saying "go kill some monsters" or "go sell a zkey". That is not a reason to be against this suggestion. I think some people are just trying to be argumentative...
Anyway, I don't see any reason why not, its not like there would be any downsides to this.
/signed
Anyway, I don't see any reason why not, its not like there would be any downsides to this.
/signed
Brian the Gladiator
The naysayers to this suggestion are the same people that would /notsign a suggestion to remove refund points back in the proph only days. "Just pick and build and stick with it!" right? There is absolutely no reason why it should cost 100g to guest somebody.
The suggestion is the removal of something that already exists in the game. The burden of finding reason for its existence is not on the OP but on those who oppose his suggestion. If something serves no purpose and is only harmful, then it should be gone.
As far as I'm concerned, end of discussion. /signed
The suggestion is the removal of something that already exists in the game. The burden of finding reason for its existence is not on the OP but on those who oppose his suggestion. If something serves no purpose and is only harmful, then it should be gone.
As far as I'm concerned, end of discussion. /signed
Sankt Hallvard
After the initial posts here I was *this* close to trolling my own thread. Fortunately these latest replies have lifted my spirits and hope in humanity back to an acceptable standard. Thanks guys.
Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money. On the other hand the guesting issue is a major problem for a healthy AB environment. Quite often one side has an abundance of teams while the other side struggles to form up 3 teams. I always try to play on the side with the fewer teams in order to actually get a game to the benefit of me and everyone else who plays the format. But always trying to find guest invites for you and your team isn't always that easy. Begging randoms in GtoB for a guest invite and go through a lot of trouble to pay 100g plus possible agent-fee sucks.
So while the reason for my redengine'd suggestion is based on current AB problems I can see no valid reason for why guest invites should cost money so I stick to the proposal in my first post.
Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money. On the other hand the guesting issue is a major problem for a healthy AB environment. Quite often one side has an abundance of teams while the other side struggles to form up 3 teams. I always try to play on the side with the fewer teams in order to actually get a game to the benefit of me and everyone else who plays the format. But always trying to find guest invites for you and your team isn't always that easy. Begging randoms in GtoB for a guest invite and go through a lot of trouble to pay 100g plus possible agent-fee sucks.
So while the reason for my redengine'd suggestion is based on current AB problems I can see no valid reason for why guest invites should cost money so I stick to the proposal in my first post.
Reverend Dr
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Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money.
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RedDog91
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Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money. On the other hand the guesting issue is a major problem for a healthy AB environment.
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It was not meant to be used to battle for certain sides in Alliance Battles, that just happens to be a side-effect of the AB-NPC being in the guild hall. Therefore, eliminating the cost for this purpose is not a necessary update.
Space
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The reason it costs money is because the guest-system is designed to be a way for you to allow a player to check out your guild without them having to commit themselves to leaving their old one just yet. It was designed as a way for players to weigh their options about different guilds, by being able to see the guild hall and talk with it's members (as the guild hall was designed as a gathering place for guild members but most guilds now just use it as a base for GvG). Then, when a player makes their choice, they can be promoted to membership position in the desired guild.
It was not meant to be used to battle for certain sides in Alliance Battles, that just happens to be a side-effect of the AB-NPC being in the guild hall. Therefore, eliminating the cost for this purpose is not a necessary update. |
However I like free things, so sign me up.
Alex/Stuiver
100g is like nothing, you kill a few foes and you have earned it back.
For the people who only got pvp characters, the most people who only do pvp and/or are in a pvp only guild do a lot of HA which you will receive balth points and other valuable stuff which can be sold for money. What I'm trying to say is that pvp only people really do have 100g and if they dont they just started playing guildwars.
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For the people who only got pvp characters, the most people who only do pvp and/or are in a pvp only guild do a lot of HA which you will receive balth points and other valuable stuff which can be sold for money. What I'm trying to say is that pvp only people really do have 100g and if they dont they just started playing guildwars.
/notsigned.
Sankt Hallvard
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The reason it costs money is because the guest-system is designed to be a way for you to allow a player to check out your guild without them having to commit themselves to leaving their old one just yet. It was designed as a way for players to weigh their options about different guilds, by being able to see the guild hall and talk with it's members (as the guild hall was designed as a gathering place for guild members but most guilds now just use it as a base for GvG). Then, when a player makes their choice, they can be promoted to membership position in the desired guild.
It was not meant to be used to battle for certain sides in Alliance Battles, that just happens to be a side-effect of the AB-NPC being in the guild hall. Therefore, eliminating the cost for this purpose is not a necessary update. |
The majority of guest invites today are used on guesting people for gvg(in the interest of the inviter) or to change sides in ab(in the interest of the invitee). In the first case the cost is not necessarily an obstacle as the person paying the fee is also the person with the interest in the guest invite. In the second case the holder of the interest and the person paying the fee is not the same. But regardless of this difference you still have not provided any valid reason for why it should cost money at all. Aside from your creative history claim that is. "Newspapers have always cost money, therefore they should always cost money. I don't believe in this thing called Internet".
What's the point in making an argument on these boards when people lack reading comprehension skills?
Perkunas
Add to the OP suggestion, do not limit the invitation to 8 hours, leave it open until cancelled by the person extending the invite.
Reverend Dr
Seriously no one has bothered to actually give a reason why invites of any sort should cost gold.
Sk8tborderx
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Seriously no one has bothered to actually give a reason why invites of any sort should cost gold.
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Shayne Hawke
The cost is trivial. Are you telling me that as a PvP player, you don't have the means to amass a few hundred gold for a few invites? That it bothers you to spend such a small amount of gold on these invites?
If the issue is having to invite someone to your guild on multiple occasions as a guest, the solution is to have them leave their guild and join yours.
If the issue is having to invite someone to your guild on multiple occasions as a guest, the solution is to have them leave their guild and join yours.