http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:A/D_Plains_Farmer
Apparently it's just as efficient as the old lava font builds. Should we expect a precipitous drop in ecto prices in the near future?
The Plains Farmer is back
ErrantVenture
Aycee
Oh man... looks like ill be dusting off my sin this weekend.
cataphract
A drop in ecto prices? Bring it on I say.
Sk8tborderx
Doesn't the skill disable from deadly paradox annoy you? I was messing around with builds right after the update and tried something very similar but decided it wasn't worth it unless using essence to avoid the disable time.
Just personal preference.
Just personal preference.
FoxBat
This has already been discussed. Build works fine but it's hell to actually ball enough guys that it becomes worth the time. They are much harder to collect now for some reason.
Iuris
Yeah, figures... just after I spend a ton of money to get my ritualist a second, communing headpiece, someone hs to come up with a build that'll drop prices...
Rushin Roulette
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Doesn't the skill disable from deadly paradox annoy you? I was messing around with builds right after the update and tried something very similar but decided it wasn't worth it unless using essence to avoid the disable time.
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Sk8tborderx
If you plan on taking reap impurities you should take crippling victory. With 3 mobs you can chain those 2 skills endlessly, and once you get them low enough for the AoE from crippling victory to trigger you are looking at almost 75 DPS. If you don't take both you are going to be a lot slower since you really only have sand shards as damage until you get their health low enough for crippling/chilling victory. Sand shards works best as a 3rd damage skill, replacing one of the attack skills will result in slower killing from testing I have done. That is true even with the skill disable from deadly paradox.
You should actually make more profit by taking essence because you can kill things almost twice as fast.
EDIT: The disable from deadly paradox is actually a 12 second disable since you need 2 hits to build adrenaline for your attack skills. That means you are spending almost half your time just auto attacking, seems like a huge waste to me. Everyone has their preferences though.
You should actually make more profit by taking essence because you can kill things almost twice as fast.
EDIT: The disable from deadly paradox is actually a 12 second disable since you need 2 hits to build adrenaline for your attack skills. That means you are spending almost half your time just auto attacking, seems like a huge waste to me. Everyone has their preferences though.
GrimmNinja
yeah i tried it yesterday and it wasnt as fast imo as the lava font version and those mindblades were really annoying to ball up. I had only 1 perfect ball where there was no scatter, prolly due to my dumb playing but still, a good enough replacement tho
Chocolate_Prayers
not nearly as fast as the old lava font spammer, however quite a nice build. Just had a chance to try it out. The disable time from paradox didn't really bother me too much.. It's quite a slow run as is but still better than nothing I suppose 
Killed u man
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not nearly as fast as the old lava font spammer, however quite a nice build. Just had a chance to try it out. The disable time from paradox didn't really bother me too much.. It's quite a slow run as is but still better than nothing I suppose
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Tripolityx
This pretty much:
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Originally Posted by Killed u man
Just wait a couple of days/weeks, let the community theorycraft and do some DPS calculations, and you'll see a build specced on 1 attribute line farming them much faster in no time.
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michielboonstra
You do know you could just use a couple of heros to clear the chamber and then farm wastes/pits/pools with ease as Sin with sliver armor?
The forth fly
from the talk page on pvx it takes a hour to clear lol,thats 35 min longer than the old build
edit:i can see why i takes alot longer the Mindblades have had a tweak you used to be able to ball them up so easly now they love to scatter,Super easy build to run though
edit:i can see why i takes alot longer the Mindblades have had a tweak you used to be able to ball them up so easly now they love to scatter,Super easy build to run though
Sk8tborderx
Solo takes too long. Grab a necro or mesmer friend and duo. You should almost be able to clear plains, pits, and pools in HM in about the same amount of time as soloing plains alone in NM.
EDIT: It takes that long if you take deadly paradox, just don't be stupid and use essence instead.
EDIT: It takes that long if you take deadly paradox, just don't be stupid and use essence instead.
michielboonstra
You can clear pools in ~20 minutes for 1-4ectos, much better and easier.
EDIT: not with this build, but just with glyph of swiftness n sliver armor
EDIT: not with this build, but just with glyph of swiftness n sliver armor
Sk8tborderx
Wouldn't wastrels demise be better?
Verene
If being able to solo-farm with spirits didn't significantly drop the price of ectos, I don't think this will. I mean, it takes what, 10 minutes to clear all of the Aatxes and Skeletons in the chamber with a solo spirit spammer? Even if you only average an ecto every other run (which is about my average with SoS), it's slightly more efficient than this. Plus you don't have to waste time attempting to ball up enemies and keep them so they don't scatter or anything like that...
Plus there's about a billion ways that this build could be nerfed with just a single skill or AI tweak.
So, looks like it'd be neat, but I think I'll stick with my Rit for when I want to farm UW.
Plus there's about a billion ways that this build could be nerfed with just a single skill or AI tweak.
So, looks like it'd be neat, but I think I'll stick with my Rit for when I want to farm UW.
ErrantVenture
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Wouldn't wastrels demise be better?
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??iljo
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Wouldn't wastrels demise be better?
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Sk8tborderx
Sorry I was responding to the post directly above me for farming pools. I am just not finding chaos plains to be worth it. They have the same drop rate as smites but take a lot longer. You would be better off just farming pools and pits instead.
EDIT: Hex breaker isn't an issue, 48 damage in HM every 8 seconds or 32 damage every 15 in NM.
EDIT: Hex breaker isn't an issue, 48 damage in HM every 8 seconds or 32 damage every 15 in NM.
michielboonstra
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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
Sorry I was responding to the post directly above me for farming pools. I am just not finding chaos plains to be worth it. They have the same drop rate as smites but take a lot longer. You would be better off just farming pools and pits instead.
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Killed u man
More on the actual topic of the A/D:
Would HM be a possibility? AFAIK (From my own UW experience) mobs die alot faster in HM, but obviously have that +7 regen, which can be easily circumvented. I think the Mindblade's health get severely reduced (by several 100 hitpoints) in return for 7 hp regen, so if you can kill them fast enough (which is the goal of a farm), a HM farm would in fact be faster than a NM one.
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I barely every play SF sin, let alone PvE, but I don't see a reason why this wouldn't kill them really fast:
Requires that 25% Recharge con.
[1 – A/D Unnamed paw·ned² character;Owpl8xqXauajDpzcAVDiJKdVuhgddB]
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[2 – A/D Unnamed paw·ned² character;Owpl8xqUauijDpzcAVDiJKd5cpdldB]
The first one would rely on Pious Assault dealing 22 AoE damage every 4 seconds, aswell as maintaing bleeding (to offset some of the regen), aswell as have Whirling charge pump an additional +-25 damage (after cracked armor) every 6 seconds. Going by rough calculations, ignoring scythe damage, this should do about 15 DPS to all adjacent mindblades. Not spectacular, but getting there.
The second one works similar, only relies on the chaining of Pious Assault => Reap Impurities. Since you've got a Flash Echant available every 3 seconds, you should be able to hit your stuff on recharge, and thus do about:
+- 20 earth damage every 6 seconds per flash
- 22 damage every 4 seconds
- 28*3 damage every 4 seconds.
=> 398 damage every 12 seconds, or about 33 DPS, a very reasonable number, definatly more than the old farm. Concidering blades offset 14 DPS, you're left with 19 DPS, which equals a permanent -10 regen on them, which was more than what the Lava Font farmer did, on top of their lowered total HP.
I might be missing something here, and I don't have a PvE assassin myself to test it out, but that looks like a pretty solid farm.
Would HM be a possibility? AFAIK (From my own UW experience) mobs die alot faster in HM, but obviously have that +7 regen, which can be easily circumvented. I think the Mindblade's health get severely reduced (by several 100 hitpoints) in return for 7 hp regen, so if you can kill them fast enough (which is the goal of a farm), a HM farm would in fact be faster than a NM one.
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I barely every play SF sin, let alone PvE, but I don't see a reason why this wouldn't kill them really fast:
Requires that 25% Recharge con.
[1 – A/D Unnamed paw·ned² character;Owpl8xqXauajDpzcAVDiJKdVuhgddB]
or
[2 – A/D Unnamed paw·ned² character;Owpl8xqUauijDpzcAVDiJKd5cpdldB]
The first one would rely on Pious Assault dealing 22 AoE damage every 4 seconds, aswell as maintaing bleeding (to offset some of the regen), aswell as have Whirling charge pump an additional +-25 damage (after cracked armor) every 6 seconds. Going by rough calculations, ignoring scythe damage, this should do about 15 DPS to all adjacent mindblades. Not spectacular, but getting there.
The second one works similar, only relies on the chaining of Pious Assault => Reap Impurities. Since you've got a Flash Echant available every 3 seconds, you should be able to hit your stuff on recharge, and thus do about:
+- 20 earth damage every 6 seconds per flash
- 22 damage every 4 seconds
- 28*3 damage every 4 seconds.
=> 398 damage every 12 seconds, or about 33 DPS, a very reasonable number, definatly more than the old farm. Concidering blades offset 14 DPS, you're left with 19 DPS, which equals a permanent -10 regen on them, which was more than what the Lava Font farmer did, on top of their lowered total HP.
I might be missing something here, and I don't have a PvE assassin myself to test it out, but that looks like a pretty solid farm.
michielboonstra
I tried it,
i dont like it
its very slow imo and they tend to scatter
i dont like it
its very slow imo and they tend to scatter
Killed u man
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I tried it,
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What if you lower your HP similar to the the way the old farm worked? Aka, lower your hp to +- 20%, would that stop scatter?
Coast
shroud of distress will make ur hp go up
Killed u man
Well, there must be other ways. If they scatter with this build, they'll scatter with any other build aswell...
Why is it even they're scattering?
Maybe it's because you used 2 flash enchants in a row, as opposed to waiting 3 seconds between every flash?
Why is it even they're scattering?
Maybe it's because you used 2 flash enchants in a row, as opposed to waiting 3 seconds between every flash?
Sk8tborderx
Crippling victory and reap impurities alone would kill faster. You can also take EVAS for the dream riders. The last skill could be anything you wanted.
michielboonstra
Yea i used sand shards, that probably caused scattering?
Sk8tborderx
Possibly, or just a bug from when they were switched from melee to ranged.
deluxe
What is the build in the OP? Since pvx isnt working.
Loot Junkie
So the reasoning here is Signet of Mystic Speed is supposed to facilitate the farming of mindblades because it causes your enchantments to instacast, nullifying Leech Signet's ability to interrupt them. What I don't get is, what prevents the mindblades from using Leech Sig on SoMS? It has a one second activation time after all.
FoxBat
Presumably AI only uses it on spells. Makes some sense since that's the only way it gains energy.
snodaard
this has been here since the dervish update if I'm right. And it doesn't look closely as efficient as the A/E lava front build. You could do that blind, a run took like 20 mins, this looks way longer.
+ skelly's are in the way of many patrols I heard.
+ skelly's are in the way of many patrols I heard.
traeskapa
I've done it out of boredom a couple of times.
Really slow, and they scatter.
It works, but I think even spirit spammer is faster.
Really slow, and they scatter.
It works, but I think even spirit spammer is faster.
Sorn Xarann
Why would you want to farm plains of jarin?
Black Metal
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Why would you want to farm plains of jarin?
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Onyx Blindbow
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Why would you want to farm plains of jarin?
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or
/wrists
you decide
byteme!
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Why would you want to farm plains of jarin?
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/wrist
Sorn Xarann
It's plain to see the farm is back!
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thanks for the laughs at your expense.
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