/signed
I don't know who thought this would be a good idea without an opt out or some sort of opt in/opt out control.
I don't need big brother monitoring where I am in the game and I shouldn't have to hide online to keep my privacy.
/signed
Option to disable location display with friends?
Khukuri
Madruk Dhuum
/signed
For pretty much the same reasons everyone else who /signed before me have listed.
For pretty much the same reasons everyone else who /signed before me have listed.
Doug4130
this makes me feel like I'm the only one who wanted to be able to see where people are since GW started
TheGizzy
So just an FYI, I put up a comment on John Stumme's talk page about this issue.
Lanier
/notsigned
I don't want the number of people that I can stalk to be reduced...
I don't want the number of people that I can stalk to be reduced...
Schmerdro
/signed
I'm heart-broken to find out how many people do NOT have me on their friends list
/kidding
But seriously, I'm just going to sign this to support the small amount of people who are made uncomfortable by it. This feature isn't even useful since, if you really want to know someone's location then YOU CAN JUST ASK THEM. If you're too shy to whisper someone in-game then why are you having that person on your friends list? All the people who are supporting this feature seem very rude and anti-social O.o which is weird, considering the type of people that this feature is supposed to be helping.
This useless feature is making some people uncomfortable, and that's reason enough to either remove it or give people more control over it.
I'm heart-broken to find out how many people do NOT have me on their friends list
/kidding
But seriously, I'm just going to sign this to support the small amount of people who are made uncomfortable by it. This feature isn't even useful since, if you really want to know someone's location then YOU CAN JUST ASK THEM. If you're too shy to whisper someone in-game then why are you having that person on your friends list? All the people who are supporting this feature seem very rude and anti-social O.o which is weird, considering the type of people that this feature is supposed to be helping.
This useless feature is making some people uncomfortable, and that's reason enough to either remove it or give people more control over it.
Soulfire Ninja
/signed
We deserve our privacy.
We deserve our privacy.
Swingline
/notsigned
simply because I have the balls to tell them I dont feel like it or im busy
simply because I have the balls to tell them I dont feel like it or im busy
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
to everyone who says "no way" :
this idea says "option to disable" NOT "disable"
/signed
privacy in a game? yes
or else let us show our friends their stuff while we're at it (sarcasm)
when i came back to GW yesterday, all i thought was: where's my privacy gone to?
i always wanted an option to ASK friends by sending request to observe their character, but not this.....
sry, but all the stuff (except for pre sear with hat/costume maker) i see is new to me, made me like: they actually thought about this all???
and this was the worst part
so yea, either remove it for all i care, or let us choose whether we wanna be spied by others or not
even in games i think privacy is required, especially in an online game
some hate the privacyless HoM calculator, yet they had to do something like this....
this idea says "option to disable" NOT "disable"
/signed
privacy in a game? yes
or else let us show our friends their stuff while we're at it (sarcasm)
when i came back to GW yesterday, all i thought was: where's my privacy gone to?
i always wanted an option to ASK friends by sending request to observe their character, but not this.....
sry, but all the stuff (except for pre sear with hat/costume maker) i see is new to me, made me like: they actually thought about this all???
and this was the worst part
so yea, either remove it for all i care, or let us choose whether we wanna be spied by others or not
even in games i think privacy is required, especially in an online game
some hate the privacyless HoM calculator, yet they had to do something like this....
Coast
Would be nice if they make it that u can select urself what friends can see your location and what 'friends' can't see your location.
Arnold Killmachine
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notsigned
You have the "away" or "do not disturb" option. Also, grow a pair and learn to tell ppl no instead of making stupid excuses. |
also, not signed.
Wracks
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Btw the "grow a pair" comment...seriously?
Stella/Shin
/signed
even tho it's for 2face reasons.... choices about personal privacy online is always good
even tho it's for 2face reasons.... choices about personal privacy online is always good
cantalus
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Btw the "grow a pair" comment...seriously?
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MithranArkanere
I would agree with a third "contacts" list in the friends panel, between 'Friends' and 'Ignored', that won't have the mutual location feature.
So instead disabling the option, or having to add an option for each 'friend', you just add to the Contacts list instead the Friends list all those people you want to keep in contact with for whatever reason (transactions, appointments, etc) but that are not your friends, you can just move them to that list instead.
But hiding from your friends? No. You don't do that. Friend will be friends, and don't hide from each other.
So instead disabling the option, or having to add an option for each 'friend', you just add to the Contacts list instead the Friends list all those people you want to keep in contact with for whatever reason (transactions, appointments, etc) but that are not your friends, you can just move them to that list instead.
But hiding from your friends? No. You don't do that. Friend will be friends, and don't hide from each other.
Dewshine Wildclaw
So I have followed this topic, and given it a thought.
I sorta see why some dislike this new feature, then again I don't really see any harm in it as such.
I do like Mithrans idea of a "contacts" options so you can seperate those random people, trade partners and such folk from the actual friends.
I sorta see why some dislike this new feature, then again I don't really see any harm in it as such.
I do like Mithrans idea of a "contacts" options so you can seperate those random people, trade partners and such folk from the actual friends.
Shadow Sentinel
My friends are in my guild. My friends list was just for the random people I'd meet up with to either trade with, run somewhere, or help with quests or missions. They weren't really friends, just casual in-game acquaintances.
Thanks to the update, I removed everyone from my friends list, and don't have to worry about managing that added convenience turned inconvenience.
I set myself as offline more often than not just so I don't have to take the time to repeatedly tell people that I'm busy and don't feel like helping them out.
General rule of thumb: Don't respond to random PMs if you don't want people bothering you incessantly.
"Social networking" is for the birds.
Thanks to the update, I removed everyone from my friends list, and don't have to worry about managing that added convenience turned inconvenience.
I set myself as offline more often than not just so I don't have to take the time to repeatedly tell people that I'm busy and don't feel like helping them out.
General rule of thumb: Don't respond to random PMs if you don't want people bothering you incessantly.
"Social networking" is for the birds.
TheGizzy
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I would agree with a third "contacts" list in the friends panel, between 'Friends' and 'Ignored', that won't have the mutual location feature.
So instead disabling the option, or having to add an option for each 'friend', you just add to the Contacts list instead the Friends list all those people you want to keep in contact with for whatever reason (transactions, appointments, etc) but that are not your friends, you can just move them to that list instead. |
Sardaukar
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I would agree with a third "contacts" list in the friends panel, between 'Friends' and 'Ignored', that won't have the mutual location feature.
So instead disabling the option, or having to add an option for each 'friend', you just add to the Contacts list instead the Friends list all those people you want to keep in contact with for whatever reason (transactions, appointments, etc) but that are not your friends, you can just move them to that list instead. |
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
i dont get it "dont hide from friends" and "dont try to act like you're busy" (which is a choice people make)
its not about that, its just that a lil privacy would be better, instead of hiding from friends, cuz thats what offline status is for, or should they remove that too?
some here tell everyone they should be forced to show others what they do... what the heck?
i dont have to hide anything (even though i rarely play anymore), but i do want some privacy, and i think others deserve that aswell
its not about that, its just that a lil privacy would be better, instead of hiding from friends, cuz thats what offline status is for, or should they remove that too?
some here tell everyone they should be forced to show others what they do... what the heck?
i dont have to hide anything (even though i rarely play anymore), but i do want some privacy, and i think others deserve that aswell
drkn
If i had to hide from someone after i told him 'hey, but i'm busy', i wouldn't keep that person on my friend list.
Bellatrixa
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notsigned
You have the "away" or "do not disturb" option. Also, grow a pair and learn to tell ppl no instead of making stupid excuses. |
As said as well, if you need to "hide" from someone, why have them on your list in the first place? You realise you can remove them from your list and add them later if you don't want them to see where you are at that moment in time, right? Also, why be friends with someone if you're gonna do stuff like that? My boyfriend asked why I was in Spamadan the other day and I bluffed it although I was buying him some sweet points as a surprise.
Come on guys, it's not hard. Don't give the devs more work over something so small with multiple solutions as it is. People need to be more upfront with each other imo and develop the skills to turn around and say "Hey, I'm busy right now". That's what the busy status is for after all. If people keep buggin ya, maybe they shouldn't be on your friends' list in the first place? Just sayin.
/notsigned
Godrik Gandolfi
/signed
I actually really like the feature, but I'm pro choice and think we should have the option to disable it.
It's a very simple request really - all it needs is a little tick box on the interface.
People have many different ways of dealing with others socially, and what seems right for one person might be socially very awkward for another. It is interesting that the people who are most vehemently /notsigning this seem to have problems accepting that not everybody does things the same way they do ;-)
I actually really like the feature, but I'm pro choice and think we should have the option to disable it.
It's a very simple request really - all it needs is a little tick box on the interface.
People have many different ways of dealing with others socially, and what seems right for one person might be socially very awkward for another. It is interesting that the people who are most vehemently /notsigning this seem to have problems accepting that not everybody does things the same way they do ;-)
upier
This is my information to give, not yours to take.
But because there is a bunch of really dumb people here who who fail to understand this AND because this pisses me off enough that I actually want to explain it (especially since I just spend a week over at GW2Guru explaining the EXACT same thing), I'll take the time and expand on it.
I have a few people on my Friend List that I adore. They have my email, they know my name, they know where I live, they are my friends on Facebook/MSN/... We regularly keep in touch and they know what I am up to and they know where I am up to it. They know who and when I RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with and I even RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with some of them.
These aren't just people I play a game with. These are the people I share my life with and I just happened to have met them in a game.
But given the chance, I'd disable sharing my location even with them.
Why?
Because my name, my mail or even who I RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with are all information that I can share in a controlled fashion.
Given the way this feature was implemented, I can't control it. I am always FORCED to share it. And given what the feature does - there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOEVER why it should be implemented in this way.
And of course, lets not forget the stupidity of incorporating a feature that is supposed to bring the community closer together and then it ends up with a certain part of the community having to delete people off their friends list or setting themselves to offline. People are distancing themselves from the community because of it.
So once again,
This is my information to give, not yours to take.
Bug me if you want to know where I am.
Toggle it.
But because there is a bunch of really dumb people here who who fail to understand this AND because this pisses me off enough that I actually want to explain it (especially since I just spend a week over at GW2Guru explaining the EXACT same thing), I'll take the time and expand on it.
I have a few people on my Friend List that I adore. They have my email, they know my name, they know where I live, they are my friends on Facebook/MSN/... We regularly keep in touch and they know what I am up to and they know where I am up to it. They know who and when I RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with and I even RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with some of them.
These aren't just people I play a game with. These are the people I share my life with and I just happened to have met them in a game.
But given the chance, I'd disable sharing my location even with them.
Why?
Because my name, my mail or even who I RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with are all information that I can share in a controlled fashion.
Given the way this feature was implemented, I can't control it. I am always FORCED to share it. And given what the feature does - there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOEVER why it should be implemented in this way.
And of course, lets not forget the stupidity of incorporating a feature that is supposed to bring the community closer together and then it ends up with a certain part of the community having to delete people off their friends list or setting themselves to offline. People are distancing themselves from the community because of it.
So once again,
This is my information to give, not yours to take.
Bug me if you want to know where I am.
Toggle it.
Skorpio
/signed.....
Duranin
/signed
The other problem with the current system is that it can (and has already) sparked drama about "I thought we were friends! Why can't I see where you are right nao?!!?" ....
Merely adding an option to hide the bracketed location could cause the same problem, my suggestion is to make it like the grey buttons on Guru and display as [Hidden] or something.
The other problem with the current system is that it can (and has already) sparked drama about "I thought we were friends! Why can't I see where you are right nao?!!?" ....
Merely adding an option to hide the bracketed location could cause the same problem, my suggestion is to make it like the grey buttons on Guru and display as [Hidden] or something.
Gli
Bizarrely, six out of six guildies who I've met online since this got introduced have asked me why they're not on my friends list. Apparently, I'm weird for not having them on there when they're already visible on the guild roster. I don't need people on two lists.
Ironically, the people who I'd have no problem with being able to see my location at all times, can't see it because they're on the wrong list. All kinds of nuts.
Ironically, the people who I'd have no problem with being able to see my location at all times, can't see it because they're on the wrong list. All kinds of nuts.
Gill Halendt
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You feel it's useless? You've already "grown a pair" and don't need excuses?
Fine. You'll likely never need such an option, so what's the difference for you anyway?
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This is my information to give, not yours to take.
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Perkunas
For the most part, I knew who my mutual friends were. I also know who I have added that did not have me on their lists. I have no objections to having my mutual friends knowing where I am, but I can understand there are people that want to remain hidden.
Instead of showing locations, use colors to show mutual friends. Green for guild members, gold for alliance members, & blue for mutual friends. The rest can remain white on list.
Instead of showing locations, use colors to show mutual friends. Green for guild members, gold for alliance members, & blue for mutual friends. The rest can remain white on list.
cantalus
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^ This. There's also the Offline option if you don't want people to see where you are
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Don't give the devs more work over something so small with multiple solutions as it is
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lovely story about buying sweets, just lovely, and relevant too
what perhaps you don't understand is a pvp friends list is a little more delicate than a pve list, it's a smaller word and sometime's juggling relationships is important, sometimes that means lying
all those who say things like grow some balls, i suspect you're all pvers, grow some balls and try pvp
Lest121
/Signed..
I hate this new FRIENDS list, the greatest feature in GW is now gone, no more privacy.
PS:you gonna have this feature at least from now on people need to get your permission to add you to friends list...
I hate this new FRIENDS list, the greatest feature in GW is now gone, no more privacy.
PS:you gonna have this feature at least from now on people need to get your permission to add you to friends list...
The Final
/signed
What a unnecessary thing to add. What's the point of knowing where your friends are - if you need to, just ask them through PM?
On the other hand, it's a great feature for stalking your friends.
Watching their every move...
Which level of which dungeon they're on (hey I need that dungeon too, why didn't you ask me to join ya?), which mission they're in (hey are you doing ZM at the moment?), where their secret AFK town is (ahh, so this is where you hide all the time!
).
Sure, it's can be helpful in some circumstances but at least give us the option of disabling it... not everyone like having their every move exposed.
+1 on the 'I thought we're friends, why can't I see your location???' scenario.
What a unnecessary thing to add. What's the point of knowing where your friends are - if you need to, just ask them through PM?
On the other hand, it's a great feature for stalking your friends.
Watching their every move...
Which level of which dungeon they're on (hey I need that dungeon too, why didn't you ask me to join ya?), which mission they're in (hey are you doing ZM at the moment?), where their secret AFK town is (ahh, so this is where you hide all the time!
).Sure, it's can be helpful in some circumstances but at least give us the option of disabling it... not everyone like having their every move exposed.
+1 on the 'I thought we're friends, why can't I see your location???' scenario.
ubikuo
/signed
I think an option to disable show location it's "called" by a feature like this. I agree with Upier: "This is my information to give, not yours to take."
The option should be: for all mutual-friends/for none [/for guildies]
They made recently a step into more "legit privacy" with "Log-in as" choose online status in selection-char screen... and one step back with this location feature...
Sometimes ANet introduces new UI features forgetting an useful option to toggle/customize them just to add it some days later.
(Examples: DamageTextSize without option for custom size, NameTagFading without toggle...)
And please let guildies see my location (If I have enabled it) in Guild window (not needed to be mutual friends...).
Have fun
Ciao
OT: Instead of location, I'd like a customizable brief text all my friends can see.
(I know it's a different feature and more resources/time cost but I think very useful ... maybe GW2)
I think an option to disable show location it's "called" by a feature like this. I agree with Upier: "This is my information to give, not yours to take."
The option should be: for all mutual-friends/for none [/for guildies]
They made recently a step into more "legit privacy" with "Log-in as" choose online status in selection-char screen... and one step back with this location feature...
Sometimes ANet introduces new UI features forgetting an useful option to toggle/customize them just to add it some days later.
(Examples: DamageTextSize without option for custom size, NameTagFading without toggle...)
And please let guildies see my location (If I have enabled it) in Guild window (not needed to be mutual friends...).
Have fun
Ciao
OT: Instead of location, I'd like a customizable brief text all my friends can see.
(I know it's a different feature and more resources/time cost but I think very useful ... maybe GW2)
matter of time
/neutral
I have not a problem with the fact that ''other friend list pll'' see my location. This doesn't harm my privacy at all. I care of privacy in real life. I answer PM's when I can and/or want. Easy as that. I don't care if someone has me on friend list or not. I understand that this fact is in majority of cases question of given situation. Wanna option? fine I don't care ... probably I would always forget to use it
PS
I have full list of friends. Anyway It was nice to see that roughly easilly over 50% of them have me on their list too
I have not a problem with the fact that ''other friend list pll'' see my location. This doesn't harm my privacy at all. I care of privacy in real life. I answer PM's when I can and/or want. Easy as that. I don't care if someone has me on friend list or not. I understand that this fact is in majority of cases question of given situation. Wanna option? fine I don't care ... probably I would always forget to use it
PS
I have full list of friends. Anyway It was nice to see that roughly easilly over 50% of them have me on their list too
aspi
No problem with it, I kinda like it to see where some are.