What are the uses for double vamp+Double Zealous?

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

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What is Double Vamp used for other than the rarity of the drop?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Double vamp is used for killing yourself. It's useful in the places where you want to die and be resurrected in a more opportune location.

Double zealous is rarer (from my experiences, anyway) and isn't really useful for anything. There are some situations where it might be useful but a normal zealous is sufficient for those.

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

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but why use a double vamp to kill urself to rez in a better place, if u could just run into an enemy saccing urself?

Grumpy Bear

Grumpy Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

England

[FAPd]

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Double vamp is used in GvG, where the opposing team will sometimes try to kill you after time and so won't attack you. If this happens you can use the double vamp to sac yourself.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

There are situations where that might not be an option. For example, the bonus trick in Dunes of Despair. You need to kill something, transfer across, then have the rest of your team die so you can Rebirth/UA them across too. It's also useful if you get stuck. There are also uses for it in PvP, but I'm not particularly familiar with them.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

Double vamp for HA/GvG to not get killed after time.

Not necessary, but a nice touch.
Double zealous has no useage what so ever.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

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If you want to go afk when getting a run, sometimes it is required that you kill yourself, so you bring a vamp weapon. Double vamp just does it faster.

Ok Dont Panic

Ok Dont Panic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

UK

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

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Killing yourself while you have cons up is one of the main uses for double vampiric weapons. If there is nothing to kill you and you need to be ressed through a gate for example a double vamp will over come the +1 hp regen of cons.

Ailina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2010

Whats Prot Spirit [FoR]

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Also, a weapon with a -1hp regen does not need to have a vamp mod attached to it. It is +15% damage always, and if you use a skalefin soup or something, or even if you have cons up, then it's as close to +15% unconditional as you can get, imo (in pve).

Xslash

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

double zealous can be useful when doing the following quests:

blood washes blood
a gate too far
curse of the nornbear

while under the ursan, raven, or wolf aura.
energy degen is capped at -2.

Divine Ashes

Divine Ashes

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chicago

LFG

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xslash View Post
double zealous can be useful when doing the following quests:

blood washes blood
a gate too far
curse of the nornbear

while under the ursan, raven, or wolf aura.
energy degen is capped at -2.
Leave it to somebody to find a good use for double zealous. Gg lol.

As others have said, double vamp is useful in GvG to prevent yourself from being killed after the res timer. Of course, it's not always going to work, but in those situations where you're saved from dying after timer from dual vamp when you wouldn't have died under single vamp, it could very well save your guild a loss.

Also, people usually bring the -50 cesta with them when they use dual vamp.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Ashes View Post
Leave it to somebody to find a good use for double zealous. Gg lol.

As others have said, double vamp is useful in GvG to prevent yourself from being killed after the res timer. Of course, it's not always going to work, but in those situations where you're saved from dying after timer from dual vamp when you wouldn't have died under single vamp, it could very well save your guild a loss.

Also, people usually bring the -50 cesta with them when they use dual vamp.
Under ursan the 15% damage is irrelevant, because all your damage is coming from your skills. Therefore its no more useful then running a zealous mod on ur 15>50/15Stance weapons.

Ok Dont Panic

Ok Dont Panic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

UK

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

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the point really was the double zealous on the weapon with blessing up = double the energy and at no cost of having -3-4 degen as the cap is -2 anyway

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

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i think i get it

Haodu

Haodu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

THE University of Michigan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ok Dont Panic View Post
the point really was the double zealous on the weapon with blessing up = double the energy and at no cost of having -3-4 degen as the cap is -2 anyway
It's not actually double zealous, it just gets the energy penalty and a damage boost