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Hellusion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

E/N

04 May 2011 at 18:30 - 1

This my design for a new party window to make our lives a little bit easier.

With this you can view the skills equipped by all party members in a single window with the ability to save or view its template code for each one. Also you can view the equipment they wear in a seperate window by clicking the grey button next to the skills. Another feature is the reordering buttons (the yellow triangles), with these you can reorder the party members without the need to kick and invite them again.

I hope you like my idea.

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

04 May 2011 at 18:58 - 2

Been thought of before....but your pretty design you have done has sold me, The way you've put it together is impressive.
/Signed
Even if creepers will be spying on all my stuff, I can careless. This is a interesting addition that I think would be great, and honestly Don't know why it is not in game yet.

_Aphotic_

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2010

Muppets Versus Muppets [MvM]

P/A

04 May 2011 at 19:09 - 3

/notsigned

THEN I CAN'T RUN KEYSTONE SIGNET IN HA!!!!!!!!

Apache215

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2011

A/E

04 May 2011 at 19:19 - 4

LOVE the idea. No more need to say "ping" or argue for someone to show something. If they were to do anything to the window, make it this.

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

04 May 2011 at 19:46 - 5

i really like this idea. it seems practical so you could maybe notice how someone could better put their skill pts or maybe a better skill.
it would also help stop annoying people like the OP in this thread.

Overall i think its a good idea.

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

04 May 2011 at 20:11 - 6

Can everyone see it or just the Leader?

Either way, /signed.

Hellusion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

E/N

04 May 2011 at 20:13 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbs

Can everyone see it or just the Leader?

Either way, /signed.

Everyone of course. But only the leader can use the reordering buttons.

Wracks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

A/

04 May 2011 at 20:42 - 8

It will cause problems in PvP(and in some cases PvE, especially Speed clears)

Beginner players wanting to start PvP or a player wanting to try his own build without being kicked by overzealous leader/teammates will suffer as a result

Although its a good idea, but it is not friendly for new comers for the game or in some cases, better experienced players. I propose implementing this only for GvGs

/partially signed

Hellusion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

E/N

04 May 2011 at 21:07 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by an1sh

It will cause problems in PvP(and in some cases PvE, especially Speed clears)

Beginner players wanting to start PvP or a player wanting to try his own build without being kicked by overzealous leader/teammates will suffer as a result

Although its a good idea, but it is not friendly for new comers for the game or in some cases, better experienced players. I propose implementing this only for GvGs

/partially signed

Overzealous players will always ask "Hi, ping plz" either in PvP or SCs or wherever. And if it comes to hide our builds instead of helping others with this then its not worth playing the game. The game is based on team play so seeing all the builds in the party newcomers will understand it better how each player's build comes together and experienced players can make suggestions to them with no ping spam as Apache215 said before.

MrKGado

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

USA

W/

04 May 2011 at 21:54 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by an1sh

It will cause problems in PvP(and in some cases PvE, especially Speed clears)

Beginner players wanting to start PvP or a player wanting to try his own build without being kicked by overzealous leader/teammates will suffer as a result

Although its a good idea, but it is not friendly for new comers for the game or in some cases, better experienced players. I propose implementing this only for GvGs

/partially signed

I kind of agree.

At the same time, if I were to have a build I didn't want to share for whatever the reason, I now have no say in the matter if I want to play with others. I would like it if the person could have a button to display their bar or not while still keeping their name on the screen to make reording and viewing the rest of the bars easier.

Pugs Not Drugs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

04 May 2011 at 22:00 - 11

i would add an option to toggle it on or off, so you dont always have to show your build. if yours is off, others cant see your build.

would help alot for setting up gvgs and scs, no need to ping each player manulaly

/signed

I Rahavan I

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2011

Shadow Cats [Cats]

Mo/Me

04 May 2011 at 22:38 - 12

/signed I'll admit I'm a bit of a build nazi but this helps me make suggestions insted of that stubborn guy who just wont ping so I have to kick him for the better of the team. I can't risk someone who has three usless skills and no elite.

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

04 May 2011 at 22:40 - 13

i would sign this were this LOTRO where players are cool to each other even after party wipes. Too bad that the GW playerbase is incapable(for the most part) of being kind to each other.

/notsigned even though your design is legit. props to you for that.

shinta_himura

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

D/

04 May 2011 at 23:28 - 14

Why is it that the communities always seem to design better things than the developers themselves?

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

04 May 2011 at 23:40 - 15

Quote:

i would sign this were this LOTRO where players are cool to each other even after party wipes. Too bad that the GW playerbase is incapable(for the most part) of being kind to each other.

/notsigned even though your design is legit. props to you for that.

oh the irony...

Kurosaki129

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2009

Guild Wars, Earth?

Mo/E

05 May 2011 at 00:34 - 16

/sign.

A good way to organize parties, and to see what each party member skill bar is. Option to toggle on/off in showing the skill bar should be added too.

but on a side note, this kind of forces people to run appropriate skills. When you see healers running healing breeze on their skill bar, they like using healing breeze, but you don't, it creates a problem =.=

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

05 May 2011 at 00:40 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

Why is it that the communities always seem to design better things than the developers themselves?

Because coming up with an idea is infinitely easier than implementing it. For all you know ANet have had this idea. Plus, you have to weigh up it's impact on the community, I'd bet the Guru demographic are much more "build Nazi" than the average player and yet even here there is some opposition.

Araiia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

USA

05 May 2011 at 00:46 - 18

/notsigned (in its current form)

No no no! Except for speed clears and HA team builds I would never group with anyone again. Although it's easy for someone to "steal" your build by just watching to see what skills you use in an explorable area, it at least makes them go through the trouble and then they don't know your attributes. I have several builds that I developed myself which I will not ping or share with people (especially pugs) under any circumstances.

I like Pugs not Drugs' idea about being able to turn it off, however.

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

05 May 2011 at 01:52 - 19

I don't get why you would care if a pug you'll likely never see again is using the same build as you. Also, I can almost guarantee you someone got there before you, unless you build is truly awful and no one's ever thought to use it before, in which case someone stealing it is the least of your worries.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

05 May 2011 at 03:34 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

Why is it that the communities always seem to design better things than the developers themselves?

Community is much bigger, has much more play time logged to see the flaws and weak areas.

Kojima

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2010

Home

En Caligne Veritas [DARK]

R/Rt

05 May 2011 at 03:34 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinta_himura

Why is it that the communities always seem to design better things than the developers themselves?

You can find the answer in psychology.

Ok Dont Panic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

UK

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

Mo/

05 May 2011 at 03:51 - 22

Aion kinda has a similar idea of being able to see other players Equipment. This option can be turned off.

Obviously with GW builds are limited compared to Aion so the skills are more important.

I really like the idea of having it and if people are so QQ about not wanting to show their builds then they can turn it off.

For speedclears reordering can be a pain you can lose people etc.
Seeing weapons and armor could be nice to check someone isn't running un runed. I mean at the end of the day it's not going to be implemented. I would love it to on the basis I'm one of those people that doesn't like not having the proper armor runes and the correct weapons. I expect other people to run decent armor and weapons. BUT I like the idea.
I cant say much for Pvp. I don't do it

I guess for normal PvE it would allow a team leader to see hero builds and peoples builds. Especially with friends and helping them out. Seeing what build they are running you can give advice etc.

If you care so much about your build being stolen, don't play with other people. If you want to try it out tell people. It's not like from the build they are going to know exactly how you run it

/signed.

Soulfire Ninja

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2011

Green Ambition (GOD)

A/

05 May 2011 at 06:39 - 23

/signed GREAT IDEA SIR!

godis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

LOVE

N/Me

05 May 2011 at 08:15 - 24

I like it ! Makes it much easier to see all my heros skill bars.

yayowars

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2010

05 May 2011 at 08:54 - 25

What if this only worked/showed for the party leader?

If he/she sees a build that they don't like or doesn't work with the team, request adjustments to the appropriate player(s), or just kick.

I liked the idea a lot except, I don't like the part where they can see your equipment.

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

05 May 2011 at 11:11 - 26

In PvE you can just change your equipment as soon as you enter whatever mission you're doing. Less so in PvP but equipment matters a lot more there so if you're sharing skills it makes sense to share equipment too.

Araiia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2009

USA

05 May 2011 at 16:04 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbs

I don't get why you would care if a pug you'll likely never see again is using the same build as you. Also, I can almost guarantee you someone got there before you, unless you build is truly awful and no one's ever thought to use it before, in which case someone stealing it is the least of your worries.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who keeps builds to myself. The builds I don't share range from simple variants of well-known builds to updated versions of older builds that fell out of use. No doubt other people use builds very similar to mine, or even identical. "Copyright" is not the problem at stake here. I'm sure there's things you care about that I don't care about, such as why other people could possibly have opinions different from yours.

If anything, it's because I'll never see them again is why I don't want to share builds with them. I'm more likely to share a build with a friend than I am a complete and utter stranger.

I've been playing for longer than this Guru account implies, I think being overprotective of "truly awful" builds is the least of my worries.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

05 May 2011 at 23:04 - 28

idea isnt bad, for party to see what builds there are
but... its bad with the current GW community (in general) with their elitism

i'd never use a pug or such with someone telling me what build to use (and i mean each skill -_-)

so no thanks, elitism already killed the multiplayer mostly, giving this means pugs kicking alot of those who dont listen to their boss (sry, i see it that way)

small note: this is from my point of view, as all i got left are a very few friends who can help, if they ever got the time (not blaming them, but i cant find other people who can help without telling me what to use)

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

06 May 2011 at 01:25 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Araiia

I'm sure there's things you care about that I don't care about, such as why other people could possibly have opinions different from yours.

I'm not saying you don't hold that opinion, nor am I saying you shouldn't. I'm asking why?

Godrik Gandolfi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2011

Canterbury, UK

The Path Least Travelled

W/

07 May 2011 at 10:03 - 30

/signed

Love the idea - and beautifully designed too, great work. Would be better to be able to toggle sharing builds and armor to give people choice.

I only ever really play with friends and my sons, and use heroes. This would be perfect for setting up parties, and discussing and planning builds between us. Often have to check the boys have their builds right - my nine year old runs rings round us old guys in actual play but often forgets a skill or two ;-). My friend and I often chew the fat over builds and trying new things out so this would save a lot of pinging backand forth.