[7H] the Underworld Guide

Care to post a screenshot? I cannot access GW at the moment. Keep in mind UW isn't your general vanquish or normal mode FoW and you could consider other options than Discord. Yes, I know. I used to do UWSC back in the days, and did now many areas, so I'm qute familiar with UW as a area.

I'll edit this post with screenshot when I get home, currently on college :/

For elite areas I see that there are better options than Discord, and I'm willing to test them, just need to find some time

EDIT:

Here, this is teambuild I usually use for VQ...ME i swap as i said, barrage, poison fire, whatever
This is builds that Tuwek posted, though me and him used same discord it seems

Paragon have 1 spear attack, because from what I have heard of people, If he have just support skills, he tends not to use them very good..last skill i manually stop, then just pop it once, usually no need for more...
instead of him i sometimes get Vekk, Ogden or something like that..

This builds are for VQ i do with them, or some dungeon sometimes....
If E/me can do efficent enough, i could put Zhed as E-Surge, and get razah back to ritualist, or get someone else instead of him that does dmg...

Meekness had it's uses back when you could only take three heroes, but now it's usefullness is overshadowed by the speed your hero party kills at, and abilities such as Displacement and Aegis. Ulcerous Lungs is pretty redundant, too. but it can be used in FoC builds just as well. Yeah, I only asked about meekness because I was wondering if it would be better to have an "in the area" hex for FoC (because FoC is very good dps). Now that I come to think of it, it might be a pretty bad idea with the massive mindblade mobs that spawn in basement and on the way to vale, their hex prevention would start showing it's teeth if the hex for FoC is too big.

For the earthbinds, I can't really see what else you can splash onto there, the bars are pretty much there and AP callers will get some steroid action for once

+1 that spiritual pain kicks ass. Some pretty good armor ignoring damage on a single mob and the minion walls in pits become easy as pie. I've always hated nature's renewal as well, so blasting those spirits is cool. Not to mention they'll try and recast it instead of doing what they should be doing which is attacking you.

Disregard the build above, I finally got around to testing a build idea I had and it worked really well:


You said an AP caster would fit great into the mix. I play a Ritualist, what would be the optimal build for the Ritualist using your above template? Would any of the other heroes's skills change?
I can play any role as long as its min maxed

Thank you!

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This build is pretty basic and it should be able to clear the Underworld on Normal Mode if you follow the guide in the three difficult quests - 4HM - Wastes and Pits. I left the player bar blank as I haven't got much experience playing a Ranger primary, though you could totally bust out a hammer and bash Dhuum for added knockdowns.



Attributes should be quite simple. Max points in the elite skills' attribute on all characters. SoS rit doesn't need much spawning power so he can have high resto on top of maximum channeling. For mesmers it's important they have at least 10 inspiration. Command should be 9 but they can get away at 7. The rest aren't too important.

Let me know how it works out and where you fail if you don't get through the Underworld. Yesterday i went to UW NM with this buils as Imbagon. I failed at 4HM. I cant kill the first group on the right side - it seems that i have too low dmg.
I also left spirits on the left side to slow down these two groups, but they past through it really fast.
Any clues ?

hey, i tried the build with invoke ele in NM, failed at 4 horseman. Can someone be kind to post a guide for the quest in NM, ill be gratefull
thx Read first post, please. There are videos aswell.

One of the best guides in GW history period. THIS!
Thanks a ton!

Hi there, I haven't finished reading the whole thing, but before I do so, I'd like to clarify one thing:

This guide by EFGJack applies more to melee/damager being the human, and if you're a caster you're better off following the quoted/linked guide by Jeydra?

(I'm a monk.) Sorry for the confusion, newb here; died twice at Horsemen already, so looking for guides. :P But I'd rather finish UW with 7 heroes than pay for a run, so... It's a guide for all professions, even though the videos are from a melee user's perspective. All the builds that are not included in the original post are not a part of the guide. The purpose of this guide is to instruct and demonstrate how the quests of the Underworld are supposed to be done with a 7H party. As noted in the original post, the Underworld can be done with a variety of setups, that's why there is no build posted in the guide.

There's a highly detailed guide on how to: The Four Horsemen in the first post, study it. Lacuna cleared the Underworld as a monk, using this guide. You can find his post on the first page, ask him for consult.

And I'd like to clarify that the Underworld is -the- hardest zone in the game, and 4H is the hardest quest to clear with a 7H party. It's only normal to fail once, or twice. Attempts by Jeydra and I were close to twenties before we killed Dhuum, granted it was on Hard Mode. The point is that even with the builds and strategies presented to you, you still have to play the game and learn through trial and error.

Is Jedra's build on the first page the best for an elementalist btw?

Nice guide and I'm looking forward to trying it The build is definitely capable of clearing UW HM (since I did it), but whether or not it is the best possible build, I don't know. It's certainly possible there's a better one out there undiscovered, but if there is one I'm not aware of it.

The build is definitely capable of clearing UW HM (since I did it), but whether or not it is the best possible build, I don't know. It's certainly possible there's a better one out there undiscovered, but if there is one I'm not aware of it. Thanks for the quick answer, I'll be sure to try it out and let you know!