Miniature Menagerie

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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Everyone knows that dedicated most minis are worthless once dedicated they just take up space. I say that they should make a storage slot that can hold one of each dedicated mini in the game. This would make it so people did not have to delete their minis or give them away after putting them in the HoM.

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

Agreed for the most part. There's still a lot of things in the game that take up valuable storage space, especially for those players who do not have the means or will to spend money buying mule or storage slots.

However, I think a better idea would be to create a Mini-pet maker in the same vein as the Festival hat maker. You take a mini to him and then he keeps it in his storage and makes it available to every character on your account. Minis created in this manner would then be customized to the character who creates it.

I also wouldn't mind seeing a Mini-pet trader in game either, from which players can purchase all current minis created in the the game with ZCoins. The amount of ZCoins needed would be reflected by the rarity of the mini in game. Likewise, these minis would come customized (but still be able to be dedicated to the HoM).

Hanok

ele kid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

Netherlands

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^^^ you mean if you have a miniature, say a mini jora or whatever. You should hand it to the "mini pet trader" and it becomes available to your entire accaunt..

does this still mean you can trade the pet? or would the option make the pet customized..

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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Originally Posted by ele kid View Post
^^^ you mean if you have a miniature, say a mini jora or whatever. You should hand it to the "mini pet trader" and it becomes available to your entire accaunt..

does this still mean you can trade the pet? or would the option make the pet customized..
Well my idea was just to add a storage slot that holds one of each mini, anyone on your account can take it out but it must be dedicated by at least 1 of your characters to your HoM in order to be kept in this special storage slot. A hat trader type thing that would allow you to have multiples would be a bit much imo, being able to keep a mini panda on every char would decrease the value even if it did not decrease the number of them in the market. The minis would still be worthless in trade because they would need to be dedicated, but this way you would save a lot of space and be able to hold on to all your minis.

ele kid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

Netherlands

[Lost]

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47 View Post
Well my idea was just to add a storage slot that holds one of each mini,
an individual storage slot for each miniature, or a slot for miniatures only, say 1 slot for every miniature ingame, (+stackable in this storage slot only?)

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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Noo, kind of like your material slot but instead it holds ONE of each mini rather than a stack. It has 1 spot in it for each mini in the game, you can put one of each. This way you can keep the copies that you dedicated to your HoM. You wouldnt need more than 1 per mini because you dont need to dedicate more than 1 of any mini to your HoM.

ele kid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

Netherlands

[Lost]

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fair enough, so a slot with enough space for 109 different mini's, not taking the 3 frogs into account.
don't you think this would result in a HUGE storage pane?

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

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Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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Yea about 3 times bigger than the material slot, it would be a bit big but much better than the current situation. For all I care they could charge $5 for it. More money for them, and we don't have to throw away our minis. They could always make a different slot for each year then a slot for the minis that don't come from BDay gifts. The slots would be bigger but there would be more of them. Maybe when you open the slot there are icons or something for each year to make it less cluttered.

ele kid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

Netherlands

[Lost]

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1 more slot is bad enough, adding 1 for every year and 1 for others would be chaos..

probably also wish for a storage pane with EL tonics? (:

pedrobds

pedrobds

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

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just a thought to add onto it, @ele kid instead of it being a huge storage pane it could just display the minis you have and when you drag and drop a new mini in there it shows that space

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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Originally Posted by pedrobds View Post
just a thought to add onto it, @ele kid instead of it being a huge storage pane it could just display the minis you have and when you drag and drop a new mini in there it shows that space
yea thats the type of thing i was aiming for pretty much/ and i dont see someone having enough EL tonics to warrant a whole storage pane but considering you need 50 minis for your HoM id say thats a bit more feasible.

clear

clear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

Mo/Me

I would rather see it a little differently. Once you dedicate a mini you should be able to delete that mini since you probably need the room for other stuff. Then once you start missing that mini you should be able to go the HoM and create another copy of that pet for your self. Then make dedicated minis non-tradeable just to really mess with the mini market.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

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Originally Posted by clear View Post
I would rather see it a little differently. Once you dedicate a mini you should be able to delete that mini since you probably need the room for other stuff. Then once you start missing that mini you should be able to go the HoM and create another copy of that pet for your self. Then make dedicated minis non-tradeable just to really mess with the mini market.
^agreed. this is how it should go down if it ever sees the light of day.

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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Originally Posted by clear View Post
I would rather see it a little differently. Once you dedicate a mini you should be able to delete that mini since you probably need the room for other stuff. Then once you start missing that mini you should be able to go the HoM and create another copy of that pet for your self. Then make dedicated minis non-tradeable just to really mess with the mini market.
yea that would be a good way to go about it. my post was more about the idea than the application

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Mahk the Toymaker should be able to make with miniatures what hat makers make with festival hats.

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by clear View Post
I would rather see it a little differently. Once you dedicate a mini you should be able to delete that mini since you probably need the room for other stuff. Then once you start missing that mini you should be able to go the HoM and create another copy of that pet for your self. Then make dedicated minis non-tradeable just to really mess with the mini market.
Sure, I like all this but the non-tradeable Dedicated minis, just add another state: customized. Miniatures used to be customized to a character on Dedication and couldn't be used by anyone else, just use this mechanic for "Trader-made" minis and keep the dedication system separate.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

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how about mini pet storage more like this:
50 spaces (you have more than that you are just hoarding or you can keep your favorite mini on your favorite character--each of mine have one)
of those 3 for greens, 4 for golds, 4 for purples and the rest for whites...instead of having a spot for say a wallow..you put it into the white spot, celestial bunny--gold spot, etc.
50 spaces should be enough to keep a good portion of minis--and this way if you have say 3 mini celestial bunnies you can put them all in instead of only being able to put one in. (or having slots for ones you dont have or will never have: panda, island guardian etc)...

or have bday mini storage....70 slots one for each bday mini.....that would alleviate some of the extra minis....

Kojima

Kojima

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2010

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Quote:
Originally Posted by clear View Post
I would rather see it a little differently. Once you dedicate a mini you should be able to delete that mini since you probably need the room for other stuff. Then once you start missing that mini you should be able to go the HoM and create another copy of that pet for your self. Then make dedicated minis non-tradeable just to really mess with the mini market.
I say this may actually be a better idea than the rest. This allows for already dedicated pets to become non sale-able and also at the same time allows us to have more slots free for other things.

m i L e s

m i L e s

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Attention Deficit Pancakes [adp]

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i like the idea of the Miniature Menagerie, but instead of them being mini, have them normal size like they are in game, now that would be awesome.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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kind of late to implement mini-storage after i have tossed a good number of my old white ones...

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by ele kid View Post
^^^ you mean if you have a miniature, say a mini jora or whatever. You should hand it to the "mini pet trader" and it becomes available to your entire accaunt..

does this still mean you can trade the pet? or would the option make the pet customized..
The original would remain unaffected, but any minis bought from the trader or created from the maker would be customized to that character, like the festival hats, costumes, etc.

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47 View Post
A hat trader type thing that would allow you to have multiples would be a bit much imo, being able to keep a mini panda on every char would decrease the value even if it did not decrease the number of them in the market.
Not if they were auto-customized to the character requesting the mini. The value would be unaffected as these minis would have no trade value due to the customization (other characters would be unable to use or dedicate them). Because of this, it wouldn't matter how many characters on an account have a copy of the mini. The only way market value would take a hit is if players would be buying that mini for each of their characters. I don't think there are enough players in the game doing that (if any at all), to have any effect on the market. Most are just switching the mini out to the character they are currently logged in to.

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Originally Posted by clear View Post
I would rather see it a little differently. Once you dedicate a mini you should be able to delete that mini since you probably need the room for other stuff. Then once you start missing that mini you should be able to go the HoM and create another copy of that pet for your self. Then make dedicated minis non-tradeable just to really mess with the mini market.
I say this may actually be a better idea than the rest. This allows for already dedicated pets to become non sale-able and also at the same time allows us to have more slots free for other things.
The mini-pet maker (in the same vein as the festival hat maker), would serve the same purpose, as well as having the benefit of not needing EotN to provide the service.

Hanok

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

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yea i think that would be a good way to go about it. like theres a mini maker, but you can only show him a mini that is in YOUR HoM and any copies are customized (untradeable). that would work. i say they would definitely need to be in your HoM tho otherwis it wouldnt be fair to let someone keep buying and selling 1 mini at a time and getting them all for the price of 1

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

My only problem is that there are still some players who do not have EotN, so have no access to the HoM. I don't have a problem with people buying minis, be it from another player or from a ZCoin trader just to add them their stockpile. I'm not really seeing how that would be unfair to anyone else.

The only thing I see unfair at this point in time with the minis is that there are some that are simply unobtainable for most players, due to an extreme high cost and the limited supply that created (or lost due to bans). That's why I would like to see a ZCoin trader with the full complement of minis in addition to the "Mini-pet Maker" to at least give the potential to have a complete collection, based upon the time you make in the game to acquire the needed amount of coins.

Hanok

AresDemigod

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2011

The Business Men

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I agree with all of this. Ded. mini's are pretty much useless but seem to be so hard to get rid of, whether it be selling or actually bringing yourself to delete one.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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I do believe there are still some ded minis that people will pay for ---greens and the limited ed ones--so not all ded minis are hard to get rid of (now 1st year bday ones---yeah, even 2nd or 3rd---but I am still missing 4th and 5th year ones, and a dedicated one is good enough for me since I have more than 50 already in my HoM).
so not all dedicateds are hard to sell----

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

I like the idea of a mini pet trader that could make you a mini pet, customized to you, after you dedicate it.

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Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Already suggested here.

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