Hero Setup - What am I Doing Wrong?

The best way to learn is to watch your hero bars. If you constantly see a zero energy hero or see a hero that doesn't bother with their skills, it's a bad bar. For a hero bar you have to realize that even if its skill bar could be great in the hands of a player, you have to build for the AI. I could say how this and this skill is bad, this is inefficent and such, but as a player, you've got to develop a sense of standards, you play around and eventually figure out how to stay alive and then how to drop defenses for more offense and learn how to treat offense as the best means of defense. You can watch other people play of course and I encourage it but it is also good to experiment and develop a intuitive and lasting of what is bad from experience.

It should almost be obvious by now...you'll be wanting a place to test new builds. Cross the bridge at the Great Temple of Balthazar & you'll find your own, private testing grounds. Testing can, also, be done in-game...flag your heros/hench to a fight after clicking the number next to a heros name (this opens a mini skill-bar) & watch the skills activate.

To OP,

I remember when i started first with hero's i made some mistakes and i can see the same mistakes with you.

Some of the people here sugested to use henchman instead, but I disagree. You have to learn it sometimes, you came for help and a simple reply of use henchman is disrespectfull imo.

What is important to know is how far you are in the different campaigns. Some skills can't be accesed early on.

Some general advise on your teamsetup. Personally I mostly use only one melee (warrior dervish assasin) of any. Bringing two is imo a waste of effort. Cause of certain characteristics in the intelligence of M.O.X. I would recommend leaving him out of it and take a caster henchman instead.

Bringing res on healing hero's is a bad idea. Like someone earlier said, a healer must be healing. Most res skills takes a lot of time and energy to be used. So let them concentrate on healing and let other hero's res you when needed. Though unyielding aura is an exception on this rule, I would use another elite skill on Ogden, in your case if available healers boon to make the healing more powerfull or an elite healing skill.
Heal area, well, it's noted before.

Use hero's, experiment with builds, have those small skill bars open so you can see why they are doing things you didn't expect. But also limit it for now. When playing in area's where you can bring a party of 8, only use 3 hero's. When playing in an area of 6, only bring 2. Fill the rest with henchman.

I think your playing a lot in Eye of the north, Keep in mind that it is an expansion and best played when you atleast finished one campagin. Though to give you advise, keep out M.O.X. and Xandra.


1: Jora, take out her res skill, put out some of the defensive skills, and put some more attack skills in. Most of the time she wont be tanking as you would like her to. So lets make her do damage.

2: Gwen, She looks reasonable ok. So take out the res signet, make her secondary monk and put a monk res skill in.

3: Ogden, take out unyielding aura and ressurect. Replace with a healing skill and Healers Boon (or an elite healing skill).

4: Henchman lina (protection henchman)
She gives a nice overall protection for the team. and also do nice rezzing if needed

5: Henchman Eve (blood henchman)
She does very nice damage, but also gives party members low on energy some extra energy, making up for stupid mistakes on the hero builds.

6: Henchman Herta (Earth damage)
A nice res skills, a nice elite skill and lots of aoe damage

7: Henchman Zho (interupt)
He helps your team a lot by interupting your enemy's, and is reasonable durable in fights cause of self protection and self healing.

Last of all in most part of the game except eye of the north, the henchman takes skills available on that moment. So take your time to use the wiki and study them. Use those skillbars to make your hero skill bars better.

the earlier mentioned pvx site is after a while a very good place to look for more advanced builds. But you need to have access to a lot of parts of the game to get them.

I was failing on my ranger in eye of the north as well recently. Point is I have decent builds on most of my hero's but I need necro's and rits for them. before that wasn't a problem. Till I realised that before I could only bring 3 hero's and realised how much of a saviour those henchman where on unlocking the hero's I usually use on my characters. I am rolling with my ranger through Eye of the North with my ranger using Ogden, Vekk, Gwen, Olias (Nightfall Necro), Lina, Eve and Hertha and it's going smouthly as before.

If you want some more help You can always whisper me ingame (just remind of the guru topic). I don't mind taking an hour of my time, sent you a guest invite to my guildhall, sit down, and go through all the skills you got unlocked, and see if there are some easy to get hero's you are missing. Keep in mind I live in Europe though, So if your in Northern America, come on early.

Before I had all the heroes, I would make some of them into a secondary instead of using the primary. Like I would make some monks and mes into necros so I can use discord etc.

Also, you said you have the nightfall skills, but you never said if you have nightfall the game. if you do, it should not be hard to jump over and get more heroes.

the third thing you can do is use pets. Give all your heroes pets so that even if their skills aren't top notch yet, there are pets working frontlines to help out.

Terrible skills: Heal Area, Signet of Stamina, Mending, Restful Breeze, Orison of Healing, Signet of Devotion, Resurrection Signet, Resurrect. And I think everyone can tell these skills are terrible, even when you've been playing for one month.

Another thing: do your heroes have any runes or insignia? Minor runes for their professions, + radiant and survivor insignia etc can improve them a great deal.

If your completely new to the game, but you want to improve your hero bars, I recommend grabbing PawNed2. It is a free program that lets you build skill bars, complete with skill descriptions and attribute point allocation. A link exists in Guild Wars Guru to its free download link.

What Higher Minion said, you need to figure out what you want to do with each individual hero and get spells that compliment this direction. If you are limited to only a select number of skills, as I said grab Pawned2 it allows you to select skills only available to certain campaigns (it even has a link to the wiki site for each skill if you want to unlock em).

I wouldn't say NEVER bring a rez on a monk - just make sure that if you do then it is disabled (to use manually) as you dont want them wasting valuable seconds rezzing dead chars when they could be healing