DoA Gloom 7HSC (NM)
Aria Frost
No cons or sweets used.
Is this fast? How are your best times?
GwOxygen
This is very decent 
Will try the hero setup out myself sometime ^^
Have you tried any other areas with that setup?
Will try the hero setup out myself sometime ^^
Have you tried any other areas with that setup?
Aria Frost
I tried this in foundry some run before with an UA smiter instead of the SB mesmer (razah) and worked very smooth until the fifth room, where I losed my UA (who had the only rez skill). After this, I've managed to beat 5-6 other groups until I losed also my N/Rt hero and then wiped (having at least another rez skill, perhaps on player bar, would be much better).
However, after not seeing a single death in gloom with the UA smiter, I've tried replacing it with the SB mesmer and it worked slightly faster (was 16-17 min before) even with my death against the final earth tormentors.
However, after not seeing a single death in gloom with the UA smiter, I've tried replacing it with the SB mesmer and it worked slightly faster (was 16-17 min before) even with my death against the final earth tormentors.
EFGJack
Dave Mustaine quit Megadeth in order to join my guild.. and on topic - there's probably room for improvement, I bet I could've got 15 mins if I didn't RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up @ the Darknesses. :P
Relyk
My best times for general play on a warrior after doing a few runs (~identical to EFBJack except roj->curses healer and st rit->sogm):
city: 19
veil: 31
gloom: 18
foundry: 36
full run: 124
You can cut off a few minutes each with better technique and a little luck, the full run was terrible. There's a guy that did 19/30/12/24, <90 minutes is a good baseline for a speed run.
city: 19
veil: 31
gloom: 18
foundry: 36
full run: 124
You can cut off a few minutes each with better technique and a little luck, the full run was terrible. There's a guy that did 19/30/12/24, <90 minutes is a good baseline for a speed run.
greenough
pretty sure i can get at least 1 less minute, had water torm spawn in the back of the line at portal, slowed me down.
EDIT:
If EoE didn't go down would of been a 12, instead almost wiped and got a sketchy 13. 12 is defiantly doable though.
EDIT:
If EoE didn't go down would of been a 12, instead almost wiped and got a sketchy 13. 12 is defiantly doable though.
Aria Frost
@EFGJack
Grats! Surely 18 mins HM is way better than 15 min NM
@Relyk
Nice times! I've been faster than you in gloom
but I still haven't finished foundry with my heroes 
@greenough
Oh, so THIS is fast!
Grats! Surely 18 mins HM is way better than 15 min NM
@Relyk
Nice times! I've been faster than you in gloom
but I still haven't finished foundry with my heroes @greenough
Oh, so THIS is fast!
EFGJack
UA smiting channeling rits and earth eles are totally a part of the meta right
Aria Frost
Wow, great job! I guess you tank having a perma SoA on you...
EFGJack
Yeah. Chaining SoA since 2006. ;p Best skill ever imo.. I suppose a 12:40-12:50 run is possible on Hard Mode if everything goes as it should.. fx on that run I spent over a minute killing the last Darkness he kept running from the AoE + all spawns didn't get hit by Earth Quakes >;| But I don't think I'll be chasing that perfect /age 12 run on hard mode
thetwistedboy
EFGJack, you are a god at build making >.> I get too locked into a single profession's skills that I can never see any kind of synergy anywhere... I seriously had never thought of using GoLE on mesmers till I saw your UW thread, and Offering of Blood on a monk? Blasphemy!
I need to play GW more...
I need to play GW more...
LexTalionis
@EFGJack:
Glad to see you've started using Drain + Shatter Delusions, spread the love for it! I'm still of the opinion they're seriously underused, judging from the current mesmer bars I see linked all over alliance chat.
I'd post my Ravenheart HM clears, but I just use an all-caster party for that, so it's cheatyface - well, I actually bring along a pet for EoE. Nothing speeds up Gloom (especially first quest) like EoE does.
P.S.: This is very silly, but if you love micro, you might want to try playing around with Rupture Soul in Ravenheart Gloom sometime. Much faster than Eruption and the blind is fantastic.
Glad to see you've started using Drain + Shatter Delusions, spread the love for it! I'm still of the opinion they're seriously underused, judging from the current mesmer bars I see linked all over alliance chat.
I'd post my Ravenheart HM clears, but I just use an all-caster party for that, so it's cheatyface - well, I actually bring along a pet for EoE. Nothing speeds up Gloom (especially first quest) like EoE does.
P.S.: This is very silly, but if you love micro, you might want to try playing around with Rupture Soul in Ravenheart Gloom sometime. Much faster than Eruption and the blind is fantastic.
EFGJack
as a matter of fact I sometimes play with Destruction + rupture on Razah and Draw Spirit on myself but I can't be bothered to micro it all the time. Although it's quite effective in the areas where it's worth the trouble.
shaygo
@EFGJack:
mmm... this looks great !
would you mind posting the build templates ?
btw, it seams like your heros should have energy problems. only 1 e-management skill for the smiters, 2 for the earth ele, who has many high-energy-cost spells. and "never give up" is too conditional imo.
how do they make it ?
mmm... this looks great !
would you mind posting the build templates ?
btw, it seams like your heros should have energy problems. only 1 e-management skill for the smiters, 2 for the earth ele, who has many high-energy-cost spells. and "never give up" is too conditional imo.
how do they make it ?
EFGJack
Is that aimed at me? Eh, sure. Although it's not about the builds, but about the playstyle and knowledge of DoA/Gloom. For example I would never use the earth ele outside DoA, and I've got similar results running two mesmers so it's a matter of personal preference. And as for the UA Razah, well, you're probably better off running something else as a caster primary :P Bloodsong isn't there for damage but it serves it's purpose nonetheless.
if you know GW & DoA you can get 12-15mins on HM gloom with a variety of setups.
(Player) Axe: OQASEZJT8VRFKF7gvl2FXF0k
RoJ Balth Spirit: Owkk4sPFEZyjL5uS99Z74cs1XeA
RoJ Strength of Honor: Owkk4sPFEZyjL5uS99Z74cs1feA
UA Splinter: OAOj4wiM5MYMvJDxlUOpcMTqPA
OoB Healer: OwQTQ0GCZSSY6rBcjYl4d6ioLCA
ST Rit: OAKjYpgLpOYzwp1D6MNpmWTnJA
VoR Mesmer: OQZDApwTODB320TwtBypZAkB
Sandstorm Ele: OgJTkYGi1xHqK4qnCmGyBZkKAA
good luck
if you know GW & DoA you can get 12-15mins on HM gloom with a variety of setups.
(Player) Axe: OQASEZJT8VRFKF7gvl2FXF0k
RoJ Balth Spirit: Owkk4sPFEZyjL5uS99Z74cs1XeA
RoJ Strength of Honor: Owkk4sPFEZyjL5uS99Z74cs1feA
UA Splinter: OAOj4wiM5MYMvJDxlUOpcMTqPA
OoB Healer: OwQTQ0GCZSSY6rBcjYl4d6ioLCA
ST Rit: OAKjYpgLpOYzwp1D6MNpmWTnJA
VoR Mesmer: OQZDApwTODB320TwtBypZAkB
Sandstorm Ele: OgJTkYGi1xHqK4qnCmGyBZkKAA
good luck
kelloggs
hey EFGJack, did you ever try playing with Keystone Signet mesmer heroes? because of your tanking/enemy balling skills it would be quite effective to play with those instead of ROJ heroes.
here is a screen of what i accomplished with them:
here is a screen of what i accomplished with them:
english storm
Has anyone got any tips or a video of this run? No matter what I try I keep getting spanked by the waves during the first mission It doesn't help that I have never played DoA before but have tried to read up as much as possible on it and still fail.
It doesn't help that I have never played DoA before but have tried to read up as much as possible on it and still fail.
EFGJack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhPljqNzLs0
that's the first quest. I got a better quality clip of the whole run (15~ mins HM) but it'll take a week to upload it with my current connection, so I'll do it at my folks' place some other day :P
that's the first quest. I got a better quality clip of the whole run (15~ mins HM) but it'll take a week to upload it with my current connection, so I'll do it at my folks' place some other day :P
english storm
Thank you I will try and stop where the video tells you to and micro SoA, i guess that's where i have been going wrong
I will try and stop where the video tells you to and micro SoA, i guess that's where i have been going wrong
Daesu
@kelloggs: I find that keystone mesmer heroes are not that worth it. First they do not use symbolic celerity well, and second their damage is pretty low. Their advantages are the low energy requirement, high armor, and interrupts that come with it, in prolonged fights.
@Aria: That is pretty impressive, to get such an awesome time without micro. Your ER mesmer is an interesting idea. I am surprised you have only 1 res in your team though.
@EFGJack: Very nice as usual, although your mesmer bar may be improved replacing the VoR. You get the lower damage on mesmer hexed targets. Nice idea with the dual "Never Give up!" to fuel your casters.
@Aria: That is pretty impressive, to get such an awesome time without micro. Your ER mesmer is an interesting idea. I am surprised you have only 1 res in your team though.
@EFGJack: Very nice as usual, although your mesmer bar may be improved replacing the VoR. You get the lower damage on mesmer hexed targets. Nice idea with the dual "Never Give up!" to fuel your casters.
EFGJack
VoR is somewhat handy in DoA due to forced triggers from Enraged. I played around with VoR bots in UW and they were a bit disappointing in there, indeed.
[Nika]
4-5 Keystonemesmers are godlike, if you put symbolic to the left skillpoolside (heroes like using left skills more than right ones); they can run builds with heavily dmg or build with good dmg and good support, -> 5 ks + emo + n/rt supoort heal + player = gg!
Lethal Primate
FoxBat
If you can get Signet of Lost Souls set up, keystone mez can be nuts. Otherwise they're just kindof OK.
Mouse at Large
I've also noticed that my Keystone mesmer tends not to keep symbolic up either. I tend to micro it.
gerrard6
I only have Rt in DoA, have you got any build for player Rt?? Thanks
(Sorry, my english is horrible coz i'm spanish)
(Sorry, my english is horrible coz i'm spanish)