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HotSoup

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

The MoP build is very versatile, and as many of you know, the N/A, while the most widely used is probably the weakest around. It's good for beginners but completely unnecessary.

I'm looking to perhaps improve and alter my build, and perhaps get a discussion going to maximize the MoP build for all. Keep in mind this would be for PuG groups primarily, since who runs a MoP in guild runs when you can just run Mesmer Spikers?

Currently I run this.

N/P

Mark of Pain
Barbs
"It's Just a Flesh Wound"
"Fall Back" (Can be the Rez instead if your team really sucks)
You move like a Dwarf
Finish Him
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
Signet of Sorrow

The latter half of the bar is focused on cleanup. Because lets be honest, in a PUG group, you will lose the most of your time trying to finish off mobs.

Now with this in mind, how can we further improve this?

Atro

Atro

Miss the good ol' days

Join Date: Sep 2009

Where don't I live?

A/

Tbh, N/P is absolute unnecessary, N/A has a guaranteed recharge on MoP for forge so you don't have to wait. N/P is good for Inspired Speech when a group is running only 1 warrior, and IJaFW vs FF doesn't really make a different because cons are up, yes its a shout, just instant recharge on MoP over a slightly faster condition remover anyday.

Idk this is just my opinion, yes I've ran both builds, I just prefer N/A over N/P, so I wouldn't say N/A is completely unnecessary.

Also, if you really hate running N/A. N/Me with Panic is pretty fun to screw around with, but again no instant recharge on MoP.

Mig Coconut

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2009

Gulfstream Owners

R/

Fallback is nice on the nec (should be on the monk, but pug groups the way they are...). I'd replace signet of sorrow with we shall return. Also, you REALLY need air of superiority. Replace ymlad/fh with it. Inspired Speech was great for 1 war teams, but with the new dervs this is unnecessary since they can maintain their spikeability continuously.

I agree with the above that N/A is actually pretty good. The guaranteed recharge is nice. You can mop quickly and have 2 ebon vanguard assassins for cleanup. Most pugs just run terrible versions of it and are bad callers.

Alternatively, you can run 3x mesmer spikers or 3x rt/a spikers. I'm not sure why the rt/a spiker isn't more popular... it is a really easy and fun build.

Balistic Pve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

E/

I'd suggest AoS in that bar, just for potential recharge.
And yes FH>YMLAD on the bar

Zhen

Zhen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

Terra Noise [Zraw]

A/

Imo N/A is useless cuz if ur spikers are good u won't have time to cast AP anyway, then it's better to just have a N/P or whatever. I'd change the leet skill for icy veins or ss though cuz u can have a monk with ctt so u don't need a blind removal. Also, if not running the N/A bar u should have AoS.

HotSoup

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

I thought about dropping it for CTT! as well but he is right, it's for more than blind.

As for AP or AoS, at no point do you need to instantly recharge your MOP unless your team is really bad. It's pointless. Even in the forge, you generally have to wait for the group to walk back into themselves anyways, especially when pugs are hardly as fast as they could be.

Windbow

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2010

R/A

The reason n/a is so nice is ap->evas->FH, ap->evas->FH. You have just so much more cleanup power.

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

K, first off, the N/A is the strongest MoP bar, not the weakest. The N/P bar with IJaFW is completely useless, and it should never be run. The only viable variant to the N/A is a n/p with Inspirational Speech, and that should only be run when using a single 100b in t3/t4 setups. That being said, the MoP slot as a whole is a somewhat outdated concept considering that VoS dervs dont even need MoP to lolspike any group in fow.

Btw, rits are superior to mesmers in terms of spiking power, speed, and survivability.

Saru The Boss

Saru The Boss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2010

Texas

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

A/

If you really want pretty cleanup, try Great Dwarf Weapon. Necessary? No. Helpful for cleanup+Griffons and fun for the 100bs? Absolutely.

tipiak

tipiak

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Hellsace

F*ck Yeah Ion Cannons [dBal]

W/

Excuse my noobness, but what's CTT ?

EDIT : OK did some lurking -> "Can't touch this!"