@xiouaiw:
Are you Lila Flowers / Flowers by Lao by chance??
used to know a french gvg player by the name lao, but his acc was banned and has long quit..
GW's Rich And Famous
Im in SPAMADAN
Pluberus
Most I've ever had at one time: 105k
How much I have now: 8k
lulz. I can't get anything done as an ADHD altaholic...
How much I have now: 8k
lulz. I can't get anything done as an ADHD altaholic...
Plutoman
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Originally Posted by Golgotha
In-game currency is mostly worthless aside from show, so I don't see the point of the cut-throat mentality.
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Fox Reeveheart
this game has gone to the grinders ._. nice things are horribly expensive, much like FoW armor. took me maybe a year after Nightfall came out before I finally got my FoW set, but even then the time it took was months (the time I decided to start saving for it). But FoW armor remains disgustingly expensive and probably will remain that way for a very very very long time to come.
Casual player? Have fun with generic or bland items (or formerly popular items, which are now basically super cheap or hand-me-downs).
Case in point are the new envoy weapons. 15K? No problem. 15 skill points? Even if you had zero it still wouldn't take THAT long, but that 100 gold zaishen coins!? Holy god! You know how long it took me to just get 15 gold coins when I started only playing the game casually? MONTHS!
Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item.
When I got my FoW armor, I was happy, but I was frustrated because it had taken so many months to afford the darn thing. If anything it was a sigh of relief, a feeling of "finally, it's over." There was no sense of accomplishment at all, just being tired and glad I was done with it.
Casual player? Have fun with generic or bland items (or formerly popular items, which are now basically super cheap or hand-me-downs).
Case in point are the new envoy weapons. 15K? No problem. 15 skill points? Even if you had zero it still wouldn't take THAT long, but that 100 gold zaishen coins!? Holy god! You know how long it took me to just get 15 gold coins when I started only playing the game casually? MONTHS!
Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item.
When I got my FoW armor, I was happy, but I was frustrated because it had taken so many months to afford the darn thing. If anything it was a sigh of relief, a feeling of "finally, it's over." There was no sense of accomplishment at all, just being tired and glad I was done with it.
w00t!
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Originally Posted by Mig Coconut
But, luckily GW is not a money-based game. You can get the maximum effective weapons and armor for cheap. Personally, I don't know why anybody would want umpteen stacks of ectos, especially if they already got all the super-expensive stuff (mini kanaxai, etc).
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Straight up playing will get you most everything you need, including elite armor and that rare weapon drop every now and again.
So it really comes down to owning minis, and sadly, with the exceptions of the Panda and Jingle Bear, all of the uber-rare minis are fugly.
The psyche of many players explains this phenomenon. Lots of Pokeman players who gotta get it all. If that's what makes them happy, good on em. I for one can't figure out what I even want to buy with my fairly meager (by these standards) wealth.
Jeydra
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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart
Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item.
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If you can't stand the grind to get FoW armour, don't get it. Other armour are no less effective than FoW armour. They don't give you more mana, more HP, more armour level, or whatever. I don't see what you're complaining about.
thedarkmarine
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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart
this game has gone to the grinders ._. nice things are horribly expensive, much like FoW armor. took me maybe a year after Nightfall came out before I finally got my FoW set, but even then the time it took was months (the time I decided to start saving for it). But FoW armor remains disgustingly expensive and probably will remain that way for a very very very long time to come.
Casual player? Have fun with generic or bland items (or formerly popular items, which are now basically super cheap or hand-me-downs). Case in point are the new envoy weapons. 15K? No problem. 15 skill points? Even if you had zero it still wouldn't take THAT long, but that 100 gold zaishen coins!? Holy god! You know how long it took me to just get 15 gold coins when I started only playing the game casually? MONTHS! Making grinding items is a problem, infact it's a huge problem. Now a little grind is fine. No item should take longer than it takes to get one of the war in kryta weapon/shields, and for the casual player like myself, thats a few days of work for one single item. When I got my FoW armor, I was happy, but I was frustrated because it had taken so many months to afford the darn thing. If anything it was a sigh of relief, a feeling of "finally, it's over." There was no sense of accomplishment at all, just being tired and glad I was done with it. |
cataphract
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That's a bit patronizing, isn't it? Any player, really? You just assume they're all clueless?
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Not weird, more like half-arsed and naive. And stop feeling righteous about it, it's killing me.
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As for the iPhone - why would anyone in their right mind ever buy such a crappy piece of technology is beyond me.
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Originally Posted by Urcscumug
Back to the game: has it ever occured to you to take the item, sell it for the "right" price yourself and then track down the guy and give him the money? I'm sure both my fictional guy and your friend would have appreciated it.
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Urcscumug
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Originally Posted by cataphract
I am sorry to disappoint but my playing style reflects my conduct in RL.
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Originally Posted by cataphract
The "any player" you found so interesting to troll about basically means "any player that comes up to me with a high-end item asking 10k for it".
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But what if they mean it? Some people give away stuff or sell it short just to clear storage. You can't just assume everybody's clueless.
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Originally Posted by cataphract
Firstly, there's no point in me wasting my time to sell the item and track people down. I'm neither a broker nor a ranger.
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And if you won't put in the time and effort to get the right price, why expect them to? Please reconsider my solution: take the item, sell it high, give the guy half. You get a comission so it's not a waste of time, and they're better off anyway.Quote:
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Originally Posted by cataphract
Spoon-feeding only turns people into brainless morons who can't even take care of themselves.
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Face it, at the end of the day, when you see someone doing something seemingly stupid, there's only two real options:
1) Mind your own business. Mention to them what's wrong if you fell like it, but leave it at that.
2) If you get involved, get involved properly and see the thing through.
Anything in-between and you come across as a busybody.
words can heal
Made hundreds of plat selling rolls of parchment at the height of the 55 Monk, Running to Rata Sum at the start of EotN made me a lot, charged 6K a run party of 6 or 8, I forget how many it was. Loadsa dosh.
Oh, and droks runs... surprised thats not been mentioned here.
Oh, and droks runs... surprised thats not been mentioned here.
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by words can heal
Made hundreds of plat selling rolls of parchment at the height of the 55 Monk, Running to Rata Sum at the start of EotN made me a lot, charged 6K a run party of 6 or 8, I forget how many it was. Loadsa dosh.
Oh, and droks runs... surprised thats not been mentioned here. |
Ranger Jaap
dupers gonna dupe
w00t!
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Originally Posted by thedarkmarine
that's some overinflated sense of entitlement
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The operative phrase here is that "You can have everything you need in GW, just not everything you want."
LifeInfusion
LEGIT:
AFAIK I remember a time about a month after release ecxtos were reset in price at the trader and people bought stacks. This time wasn't reset. It happened a second time and it was reset that time.
Having rich people quit and donate stuff to you.
Lucky drops (polar bear), contests (MKG), ingame contest (rollerbeetle)
NON-LEGIT:
Ebaying.
Also duping.
AFAIK I remember a time about a month after release ecxtos were reset in price at the trader and people bought stacks. This time wasn't reset. It happened a second time and it was reset that time.
Having rich people quit and donate stuff to you.
Lucky drops (polar bear), contests (MKG), ingame contest (rollerbeetle)
NON-LEGIT:
Ebaying.
Also duping.
clear
Scamming back in the day would net you 1,000k before you got banned.
Krystaline
*Looks at the 19k in her bags, then back at this thread*
100,000 ectos boggles my mind. I have yet to see one lol.
100,000 ectos boggles my mind. I have yet to see one lol.
Axeman002
no-one will be able top get as rich as the super-rich of past years.from zero to like 2000 armbrace worth of items/ecto.
1...everyone these days seems to think there powertraders...so selling anything for a profit normally ends up in a non reply...or being labelled a scammer (had it many a time lol)...people just want everything for about 10-20 less than there value...and thats pretty much everywhere in game now.
2..there isnt exploits like there used to be and super speedclears like 10 min UW ..12 min FoW..3 minute Duncan reapeatable...its all stamped out so now its all grind of DoA to get reasonably wealthy...but not super-rich.
and since everyone seems to be hungry t5o be rich...most items that used to be 400-500e are now like 100e.
1...everyone these days seems to think there powertraders...so selling anything for a profit normally ends up in a non reply...or being labelled a scammer (had it many a time lol)...people just want everything for about 10-20 less than there value...and thats pretty much everywhere in game now.
2..there isnt exploits like there used to be and super speedclears like 10 min UW ..12 min FoW..3 minute Duncan reapeatable...its all stamped out so now its all grind of DoA to get reasonably wealthy...but not super-rich.
and since everyone seems to be hungry t5o be rich...most items that used to be 400-500e are now like 100e.
Bright Star Shine
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no-one will be able top get as rich as the super-rich of past years.from zero to like 2000 armbrace worth of items/ecto.
1...everyone these days seems to think there powertraders...so selling anything for a profit normally ends up in a non reply...or being labelled a scammer (had it many a time lol)...people just want everything for about 10-20 less than there value...and thats pretty much everywhere in game now. 2..there isnt exploits like there used to be and super speedclears like 10 min UW ..12 min FoW..3 minute Duncan reapeatable...its all stamped out so now its all grind of DoA to get reasonably wealthy...but not super-rich. and since everyone seems to be hungry t5o be rich...most items that used to be 400-500e are now like 100e. |
FoW: can still be done in 12 minutes easily, in fact 15 minutes is piss easy, and it only goes very slightly harder to go lower.
DoA: has only become faster since the SF nerf, but that's due to introductions of new tactics. Zraw runs ~35min casuals consistently, we run 35-45 runs consistently. Just because we leave a little more room for screwups.. DoA or being good at mAT's are probably the only 2 ways of making stacks of ecto's these days. I know DoA can easily yield up to a stack/month, more if you really put yourself behind it, but it can get boring fast if you do it too much.
But you're right, the exploits like duping, mallyx farm, Duncan farm.. have been stomped out. There are probably loads of exploits left to discover, but by the rate they get found these days, abusing them won't last long I fear. Unless you can keep your mouth shut and keep them to yourself.. Tough luck with that...
Now on the subject of the truly rich: they either got lucky with the dupe exploit, or they powertraded high-end mini's like crazy (I know of a couple instances where 1 trade could yield up to 1000e+, go check "trade of the day thread") or a combination of both...
Oh, and on your #1 comment: that really pisses me off. Whenever I sell something I sell it way below average price because I'm too lazy to look for nice trades, but even then I get powertrading dickheads that want to lowball my lowball offers... I usually tell them to piss off and sell it a couple minutes later.. And the other way around, when I buy something, I tend to always offer a reasonable price for things I need, but even then they want 10x the amount I'm offering. Also usually then I tell them to piss off and find reasonable people afterwards.. But it's insane how greedy some people are..
Norian
I have 1000plat+ in $$$ and ectos and I've been playing for ~5months+
Someone playing for 6+ years could accumulate a ton...
Someone playing for 6+ years could accumulate a ton...
Bright Star Shine
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I have 1000plat+ in $$$ and ectos and I've been playing for ~5months+
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Axeman002
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I have 1000plat+ in $$$ and ectos and I've been playing for ~5months+
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its took you 5 months to save about the price of half a panda...that guy in the screenshot at the start had 4! +1000 armbraces and about 30 stacks of ecto's +many many other high end mini's
so give yourself 15 years and you'll be maybe halfway there :P
Bright Star Shine
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its took you 5 months to save about the price of half a panda...that guy in the screenshot at the start had 4! +1000 armbraces and about 30 stacks of ecto's +many many other high end mini's
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360 armbraces at current price is about 7560e. At your rate of 250e/5 months you would have to play for 12,6 years to be able to pay for a dedicated Panda. If you go by my rate of about 250e/month that would still be: 2,52 years.. Now think of how much money this person has. Even if you could do something that would have 8 of your accounts simultaneously run DoASC at 35 minutes/run you would still have to do it for years on end to get the amount of wealth some people have..
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Even if you could do something that would have 8 of your accounts simultaneously run DoASC at 35 minutes/run you would still have to do it for years on end to get the amount of wealth some people have..
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2) Some people have been playing for years on end.
It boils down to this: anyone that understands how to efficiently convert time into in-game cash is going to end up very wealthy in-game, given a reasonable allotment of time to spend playing the game over a number of years.
If you haven't been playing for years, or you don't focus your efforts on building in-game wealth, you haven't got a leg to stand on when you complain about the wealth that others have built.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
1) DoASC isn't the top wage earner in the history of the game. It isn't even close, especially after you account for inflation. 5-10k per Droks run per passenger in the first six months of the game,
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Or if you got a Crystalline Sword drop early on in the game, that would get bought up by someone who paid for plat on ebay, who would turn around and sell the sword on ebay, netting a real life profit, and the player with the sword netted a huge in-game profit. Even a single Black Dye went for 50k+ early in the game. Imagine if you got a couple lucky drops early on in the game, and always focused on just trading and accruing wealth, you could have a lot of armbraces right now.
Swingline
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I forgot about this. I remember people lining up at Beacon's Perch within the first 6 months of the game to pay 5k+ for a run to Droks. And paying 10k for a run wasn't unheard of either (I think I may have paid 10k for my first character to get a run). Take the low estimate of 5k/runner, with 5 people paying. That's 25k/run, and nearly any warrior with Sprint, Charge, and Balanced Stance could do the run in 10-15 minutes. Do that for 3-4 hrs a day for the first 6+ months of the game's existence and you could easily make 100k/hr, and back then, 100k was a lot of money.
Or if you got a Crystalline Sword drop early on in the game, that would get bought up by someone who paid for plat on ebay, who would turn around and sell the sword on ebay, netting a real life profit, and the player with the sword netted a huge in-game profit. Even a single Black Dye went for 50k+ early in the game. Imagine if you got a couple lucky drops early on in the game, and always focused on just trading and accruing wealth, you could have a lot of armbraces right now. |
Bright Star Shine
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1) DoASC isn't the top wage earner in the history of the game. It isn't even close, especially after you account for inflation. 5-10k per Droks run per passenger in the first six months of the game, or 3-6 ecto per 55 Prot Bond Smite run would translate to an enormous amount of cash today if used to purchase the right things. Even the 100k-250k per hour from dungeon running in 2008-2009 dwarfs the returns on normal mode DoASC.
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But yes, I know that there are and were other efficient ways of making money. DoASC is CURRENTLY the best way, there used to be other ways, but nothing has ever been so profitable to accumulate what some people have. No matter what you say.
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
I'm not talking DwG here; I'm talking 35-40min HM clears. 70-100k/run depending on drops. That translates to a lot more than 100k/hour.
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DoASC is CURRENTLY the best way, there used to be other ways, but nothing has ever been so profitable to accumulate what some people have. No matter what you say.
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As I already pointed out, 12 hours a day for a year yielding the returns you're describing in DoASC would yield at least 62,500 ecto at the end of the year. It follows that someone playing a reasonable number hours per week could have that kind of wealth six years after release, and someone obsessive or willing to put in a lot of hours whenever an unusually good money-making method is available could have a lot more, even without having to power trade.
To be clear, I'm not denying the existence of scumbags that have acquired large quantities of wealth by means that many of us would call morally reprehensible. Nor am I denying that some people are wealthy simply because they happened to be holding the right items when the dupe hit, or during the second large wave of high-end item inflation during the Chaos Plains and UWSC period. What I am saying is that it's also possible to acquire huge wealth in Guild Wars through "legitimate" means, and that your continued denial of this simple truth is just thick-skulled.
Bright Star Shine
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Not really. You're talking 105-150k based on your numbers if you're able to clear every 40 minutes without ever failing or spending time setting up groups. Granted, I wasn't aware that all of DoA could be cleared in 35-40 minutes in HM at present. I was under the impression that 35-40 was the NM time and that HM was around an hour.
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Sorry, but you're just wrong. I don't have quite the wealth in the screenshot from earlier (though I'm in the 10,000+ ecto category), but I didn't obsessively focus on building wealth either. I have a lot fewer hours than the truly hardcore, and I spent a large chunk of that time unprofitably playing PvP in the early days.
As I already pointed out, 12 hours a day for a year yielding the returns you're describing in DoASC would yield at least 62,500 ecto at the end of the year. It follows that someone playing a reasonable number hours per week could have that kind of wealth six years after release, and someone obsessive or willing to put in a lot of hours whenever an unusually good money-making method is available could have a lot more, even without having to power trade. To be clear, I'm not denying the existence of scumbags that have acquired large quantities of wealth by means that many of us would call morally reprehensible. Nor am I denying that some people are wealthy simply because they happened to be holding the right items when the dupe hit, or during the second large wave of high-end item inflation during the Chaos Plains and UWSC period. What I am saying is that it's also possible to acquire huge wealth in Guild Wars through "legitimate" means, and that your continued denial of this simple truth is just thick-skulled. |
Im in SPAMADAN
key to becoming rich
Step 1:
a) Powertrade
b) Get Lucky
c) Spend lots of time
Step 2: PROFITT!!!
Step 1:
a) Powertrade
b) Get Lucky
c) Spend lots of time
Step 2: PROFITT!!!
Enko
I don't think making money is all that hard. The majority of my start up cash was made from just playing through the game, picking up every drop, and selling most of it to the merchant and some of the better mods to other players.
Just came back from a deployment and took a look at Kamadan. I was still able to make about 100k in the first 45 minutes just trading elite tomes back and forth.
Some of the people with obscene amounts of wealth have most likely been playing for a long time or got some lucky drops. If I sold my unded collection, I'd be in the same boat seeing as how I only paid around a total of 1800 ectos for a Mini Kanaxai, Panda, Island Guardian, Shiroken Assassin, Greased Lightning, Zhed, and 400k total for a Grawl, Oni, Naga, and Yeti.
Most of my money comes from trading in low value, high demand items. It just builds up after a while. Currently I think the best drop I've had in game is a req 12 Voltaic Spear out of the Z Chest or a Mini Yakkington from Nick's gifts.
Just came back from a deployment and took a look at Kamadan. I was still able to make about 100k in the first 45 minutes just trading elite tomes back and forth.
Some of the people with obscene amounts of wealth have most likely been playing for a long time or got some lucky drops. If I sold my unded collection, I'd be in the same boat seeing as how I only paid around a total of 1800 ectos for a Mini Kanaxai, Panda, Island Guardian, Shiroken Assassin, Greased Lightning, Zhed, and 400k total for a Grawl, Oni, Naga, and Yeti.
Most of my money comes from trading in low value, high demand items. It just builds up after a while. Currently I think the best drop I've had in game is a req 12 Voltaic Spear out of the Z Chest or a Mini Yakkington from Nick's gifts.
Mcsnake85
Luck,only luck is the factor to make money...thats all.
I have done UWsc,FoWsc and other farm...except for 2 obby edge on last month i NEVER get something cool in the last 3 year.
Mini Dhuum is 200e now, but was around 500e when it come out, so it mean 500e/1h-1h.30min...
Thats the way to make money.
Powertrade come out only when you have something to trade, if you have no money you cant buy something to powertrade so you need something to begin...Dungeons drops help with that,but if you dont drop nothing you cant make money.
I have done UWsc,FoWsc and other farm...except for 2 obby edge on last month i NEVER get something cool in the last 3 year.
Mini Dhuum is 200e now, but was around 500e when it come out, so it mean 500e/1h-1h.30min...
Thats the way to make money.
Powertrade come out only when you have something to trade, if you have no money you cant buy something to powertrade so you need something to begin...Dungeons drops help with that,but if you dont drop nothing you cant make money.
melissa b
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Luck,only luck is the factor to make money...thats all.
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DOA SC (Stacks of Armbraces)
Selling Player Services (Players Paying You - varies)
Tournament Reward Points (Stacks of Z-Keys)
Duping (Infinite Armbraces)
Botting (250ectos a day)
Exploits (1000 z-keys an hour)
VikingHaag
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Luck,only luck is the factor to make money...thats all.
I have done UWsc,FoWsc and other farm...except for 2 obby edge on last month i NEVER get something cool in the last 3 year. Mini Dhuum is 200e now, but was around 500e when it come out, so it mean 500e/1h-1h.30min... Thats the way to make money. Powertrade come out only when you have something to trade, if you have no money you cant buy something to powertrade so you need something to begin...Dungeons drops help with that,but if you dont drop nothing you cant make money. |
Seriously is u find it easy to VQ 8 Man areas you can consistently make 200k a day. I made that much till i called some1 to help and got screwed up with the client that now brands me as scammer.
spun ducky
I will list the few ways to truly get rich to an insane level as I was able to abuse some of them.
1.Separate game zones. If you had an account on american and one on european servers you could literally trade straight across in international district for almost endless cash.
2.Trader Reset this is one of the big ones I got in one I was at the trader when it happened...
3.105 prot bond UW monk believe it or not you could make a serious amount of money doing this run. Some newer players may think ecto go for 7-7.5k each. Well in this time period ecto went for 20-23k each and they were very easy to farm on multiple accounts at once.
4.DoA gems initially at release. A single armbrace was worth a serious amount of money im talking hundreds of plat.
5. Duping I will not say in any uncertainty that a lot got away with it as I know a few but that is something that will never be fully dealt with in the long run. If you ever followed RMT in guildwars this changed everything.
6. Real cash for serious power trading. I know most will laugh but there are many websites and situations that allow an individual to move wealth between games through real money or virtual currency transfer. If someone is savvy with trading and can take this route into games they enjoy it is possible to hit the game as a high roller.
7.One shot mini's hate it or love it but anet has taken a liking to giving individuals supply driven unreal wealth on the level of winning the lottery.
8. Xunlai house I know plenty such as my self running 20+ accounts per month.
9.While I don't have any ill intent vs this person they are a huge example of this technique to riches. M.B. is what I will call him he made unreal money off of selling rare items of the time to dupers. He did not receive a ban even though he should obviously have known something was not right as in accepting 1750arms for things not worth that...
10.Old school items just from hanging on to ultra rares and also contests. The art contests allowed for people to become insanely rich over night.
I know there are more but I am a bit too tired to list them all. I will edit tomorrow.
1.Separate game zones. If you had an account on american and one on european servers you could literally trade straight across in international district for almost endless cash.
2.Trader Reset this is one of the big ones I got in one I was at the trader when it happened...
3.105 prot bond UW monk believe it or not you could make a serious amount of money doing this run. Some newer players may think ecto go for 7-7.5k each. Well in this time period ecto went for 20-23k each and they were very easy to farm on multiple accounts at once.
4.DoA gems initially at release. A single armbrace was worth a serious amount of money im talking hundreds of plat.
5. Duping I will not say in any uncertainty that a lot got away with it as I know a few but that is something that will never be fully dealt with in the long run. If you ever followed RMT in guildwars this changed everything.
6. Real cash for serious power trading. I know most will laugh but there are many websites and situations that allow an individual to move wealth between games through real money or virtual currency transfer. If someone is savvy with trading and can take this route into games they enjoy it is possible to hit the game as a high roller.
7.One shot mini's hate it or love it but anet has taken a liking to giving individuals supply driven unreal wealth on the level of winning the lottery.
8. Xunlai house I know plenty such as my self running 20+ accounts per month.
9.While I don't have any ill intent vs this person they are a huge example of this technique to riches. M.B. is what I will call him he made unreal money off of selling rare items of the time to dupers. He did not receive a ban even though he should obviously have known something was not right as in accepting 1750arms for things not worth that...
10.Old school items just from hanging on to ultra rares and also contests. The art contests allowed for people to become insanely rich over night.
I know there are more but I am a bit too tired to list them all. I will edit tomorrow.
Hobbs
DoA gems in the early days were a huge money spinner, I casually did the Famine/55 duo of the first room in Foundry and you could pull 200-300k an hour in a time when gold was worth a lot more. Titan gems were 70k+ each at the time. In hindsight I wish i'd done more of that.
I think most people who are inordinately rich probably made the equivalent amount of money a long time ago when it was possible to farm enough ecto to make you a high roller and then successfully played the market for years to ensure their wealth didn't depreciate. In terms of purchasing power I can't imagine they've gotten much richer in a long time.
I think most people who are inordinately rich probably made the equivalent amount of money a long time ago when it was possible to farm enough ecto to make you a high roller and then successfully played the market for years to ensure their wealth didn't depreciate. In terms of purchasing power I can't imagine they've gotten much richer in a long time.
Urcscumug
How about discussing moderate, healthy living for a change.
I think lots of people overlook very simple ways of accumulating gold or holding on to it.
* Making gold out of thin air: id and merch whites; set a merch price threshold and salvaging items that fall under it, then sell the mat stacks.
* Living off the land: salvage and use runes and modes off drops; look up collector items on the wiki -- if the corresponding collector has something nice, keep the items until you have the required amount; use monastery credits, imperial commendations, battle commendations etc. to get kits for free.
* Saving gold: this is the big one, learning that not throwing away money is just as good as making it. Do not id gold items (it's easy to tell which are worthless) and sell them 7 for 5k to Wisdom title hunters; do not open chests in low level areas -- you always come at a loss in terms of key price vs merch price for the item, and the chances of something good dropping are very slim; do not buy and open Traveler gifts, birthday presents, strongboxes, coffers etc. -- sell them to others instead. (Yes, I know how hard it is to beat the temptation; don't make me count up how much I've spent on such suprise items for nothing.) And then there's the silly mistakes, such as crafting myself a max wand just to end up not using it, buying the wrong runes, crafting myself max armor I hated just because "I had to" have max armor right then and there etc. Or the ignorant mistakes, such as not realising that a 750g 20/20 staff is more useful than a 5k max staff with no mods.
By observing these simple rules any player can at the very least maintain their cash somewhere between 50-100k constantly, AFTER kitting their chars in max armor and runes and decent weapons, with the mediocre stuff on the heroes. This cash will allow you to experiment comfortably with skills and secondaries because you can splurge on skills and tomes when you feel like it.
I think lots of people overlook very simple ways of accumulating gold or holding on to it.
* Making gold out of thin air: id and merch whites; set a merch price threshold and salvaging items that fall under it, then sell the mat stacks.
* Living off the land: salvage and use runes and modes off drops; look up collector items on the wiki -- if the corresponding collector has something nice, keep the items until you have the required amount; use monastery credits, imperial commendations, battle commendations etc. to get kits for free.
* Saving gold: this is the big one, learning that not throwing away money is just as good as making it. Do not id gold items (it's easy to tell which are worthless) and sell them 7 for 5k to Wisdom title hunters; do not open chests in low level areas -- you always come at a loss in terms of key price vs merch price for the item, and the chances of something good dropping are very slim; do not buy and open Traveler gifts, birthday presents, strongboxes, coffers etc. -- sell them to others instead. (Yes, I know how hard it is to beat the temptation; don't make me count up how much I've spent on such suprise items for nothing.) And then there's the silly mistakes, such as crafting myself a max wand just to end up not using it, buying the wrong runes, crafting myself max armor I hated just because "I had to" have max armor right then and there etc. Or the ignorant mistakes, such as not realising that a 750g 20/20 staff is more useful than a 5k max staff with no mods.
By observing these simple rules any player can at the very least maintain their cash somewhere between 50-100k constantly, AFTER kitting their chars in max armor and runes and decent weapons, with the mediocre stuff on the heroes. This cash will allow you to experiment comfortably with skills and secondaries because you can splurge on skills and tomes when you feel like it.
Mcsnake85
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Originally Posted by melissa b
Except for...
DOA SC (Stacks of Armbraces) Selling Player Services (Players Paying You - varies) Tournament Reward Points (Stacks of Z-Keys) Duping (Infinite Armbraces) Botting (250ectos a day) Exploits (1000 z-keys an hour) |
UWsc : 1 Mini Dhumm = 200e+ in 1hour
SoOsc : 1 Bds = 50e+ in 20 min
ecc
Dupping/Bot and exploits are not legit way to make money, im just speaking about legit ways.
Services are slow.
Tournament points, yes..but they are for PvPers only.
DoAsc...yep,but it took Time..Trenchway offer you a speedclear in less than 1 hour,but cause of the tactic you dont kill a lot of mobs so you gain 2+4+6+8 Gems in total, if you start in Veil, then you do gloom,city and for last foundry you get:
2x2k=4k
4x2k=8k
6x3k-3.5k=18k-21k
8x4.5k-5k=36k-40k
Thats is 73k/hour on top.
So dunno...the luck help on DoA too (Chance to get Extra Gems).
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by Mcsnake85
True,but :
UWsc : 1 Mini Dhumm = 200e+ in 1hour SoOsc : 1 Bds = 50e+ in 20 min ecc Dupping/Bot and exploits are not legit way to make money, im just speaking about legit ways. Services are slow. Tournament points, yes..but they are for PvPers only. DoAsc...yep,but it took Time..Trenchway offer you a speedclear in less than 1 hour,but cause of the tactic you dont kill a lot of mobs so you gain 2+4+6+8 Gems in total, if you start in Veil, then you do gloom,city and for last foundry you get: 2x2k=4k 4x2k=8k 6x3k-3.5k=18k-21k 8x4.5k-5k=36k-40k Thats is 73k/hour on top. So dunno...the luck help on DoA too (Chance to get Extra Gems). |
Assume you do 4 starts in 4 areas after each other. Thus getting 20 of each gem. Gemsets being ~12k/ea atm this will yield 240k in 4 runs or 60k/run from gems.On top of that you get 5,4k from quest rewards plus additional drops. A 7/15 or a 8/16 shield can set you up a couple k as well etc etc. So it averages somewhere in between 70-80k/run. Runs taking anywhere between 35-45 minutes averaging around 38 minutes usually that's anywhere between 93-137k/hour.
Raven Wing
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cataphract
IMHO, there's no way that a "casual player" will have 1k ecto. Unless he's lucky to the point of hax0ring.