What are you hoping to see in Winds of Change?

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Should've been done at NF launch.

Another Mes hero wouldn't be bad. Or maybe a Rit Ghostly Master Togo.
New weapon skins with the quality of the original Canthan stuff (pipedream, but we can always hope).
An interesting storyline that fits in with the existing Canthan theme and lore.

This is more for what I expect to happen but there is a huge strip of the city next to the sea that goes all the way down to the south of Cantha. I would like to see this opened as new content. Along with some new storyline content for existing parts of Cantha including the Jade Sea.

As far as items go I would really like to see zodiac armor, the high end minis released as drops from The Deep(Kanaxai) and Urgoz(IG) end chests and maybe a new 8 man dungeons that drops the mini Panda. As for weapons they will probably release the rest of the envoy weapons and new skins like they did with oppressor weapons.

Dual Wielding Katanas for Sins.


'Nuff said.


Not going to happen: A remake of Kaineng City. Several explorable areas filled with the same low-res textures that look like someone crapped on the screen was and has never been fun, and one of the main reasons Factions is as dead as it is, outside of CMs/Deep/Urgoz running. A city filled with actual Asian-inspired architecture, with EotN-levels of detail, and nice gardens would have been nice to play through. Not 15 zones of slums using the same textureless graphics.

Not going to happen for WoC, but if Cantha gets opened up in GW2, I hope the whole place gets reskinned. Wrong forum, etc., so I'll just take dual wielding katanas/shinobi blades/GPB or whatever for sins. So smexy <3

I'm hoping for pvp rewards for doing pve.

Content, content, content.

I want to see..

Creative enemy skill bars. The foes in WiK are good examples of how to do this properly. Use the meta against us. SY! is everywhere, add more armor ignoring damage, blind, and anti-adrenaline. Everyone uses Discord, add more anti-hex/conditions.

Variable mob spawning.

Epic battles like BFLA and even Temple of the Intolerable, more please.

Repeatable endgame content. A dungeon and/or an end game area with anti-SF/SC measures and end chests. After six years the endgame content we have puts me to sleep just thinking about it.

A Tengu Mes or Rt hero, not for me but I know it has been requested alot.

A Ghostly Togo Hero or Mini has been thrown out there alot, and I like the idea.

Inscribable Zodiac Weapons, popular, and new skins. IDC what it does to traders. Quit trying to rip everyone off and play the game.

Massive rewards, including Imperial Faction. At this stage of the game, reward creep is the least of our concerns. And after waiting so patiently, we all deserve something for our time.

Something like War Supplies. These little babies gave a good incentive for altoholics like myself to repeat content.

A HM option that makes noobs cry.

I dont want to see..

Run across 3 zones just to watch a bunch of dialogue, skip to the action already!

Royal gifts, liked the minis but otherwise a waste of resources.

More armor and health = HM

A seemingly random and drawn out release schedule of new content and obscure clues that you can only get if you "friend" Anet on facebook.

Are you mental? More melee hate in Cantha? Going through the campaign alone with a melee char makes you wonder if they have some kind of hate against them. Don't make it worse.

That was my first thought on seeing the title of this thread too :P

DO NOT WANT THE WIK DIALOGUE STYLE! For the love of the gods, PLEASE do not bring back the choking up my chat box for 539710730760 years dialogue in every single part of the story. It made me want to murder things and the whole massive back and forth put me off repeating WiK for some time.

I'd really like some more weapons for HoM, not really caring about another hero, and yes, some decent female sin armour would be nice. Mini Twisted Bark and Aspects would be cute, especially considering how stupidly rare the originals are.

What was the last expected release date (or estimate) for Winds of Change. It seems like we've been waiting forever for it.

Here's my wishlist:

• 3 heroes for each profession + Razah as the 4th "jolly" hero
• a brand new elite area having challenging foes like in WiK
• a superelite area made up by 4 sub-areas (one for each GW campaign/expansion, something like DoA), each one containing a "best of" selection from that campaign/expansion bosses and foes.
• a new PvP format to allow "Player+7H vs. Player+7H" battles (of course no mercs allowed)
• a major change to Shadow Form, maybe something like:
  "for x seconds only one foe can target you". The foe could be random, the nearest or the first to hit you. Could be eventually extended with something like "whenever you're hit (or that foe dies), you're teleported near another foe (if any)"
• new armors or even "titles" armors (e.g. GWAMM armor), so that a title can be "wearable"
• PvE skills on heroes

Last hint was something like "exciting things happening in June"

That will be perfect for me. I have 12 vanquishes left for GWAMM and then I'll need to find something to do.

Those exist already and they drop from Deep/Urgoz end chests. How are the ones who collect and trade rare Factions skins ripping other people off exactly? Maybe you need an example of why making something previously rare drop inscribable and more often is bad, see: Dwarven Axe.

All I'm concerned about is the content and lore behind it.

I don't care about minipets/heroes/weapons/armor/inscribable stuff

I'm just wanting a well written story that I can play through and enjoy. I was kind of dissappointed with the Factions storyline originally. I found it to be kind of weak so hopefully WoC will redeem Factions for me.

One thing I do not want to see is any more of the mission dialogue that came with wik.

go to bandit camp listen to dialogue rezone get next line and so on.
Same in hom keep walking in and out followed by Kieran till you had the entire story.
Please have a rethink about how the mission info is generated.

I also like the idea of none human hero additions.
Doubt they could be one of the new races for gw2 but be nice to start getting a few gw2 rumours.

How about a Henchman charr with a gun he just invented, too much ? oh well just an idea.

One mesmer and two more ritualist heroes. Razah can be changed to any profession, so it makes sense in my head that there should be 3 of each profession, plus Razah.

That Elite Skill count thing is starting to bug me too. Make Skull Crack or Defy Pain non-Elite, update for PvP if needed, and then make something like Ether Lord an Elite skill with a buff.

Just a little bit.

Your right, plenty of melee hate out there. My point is that PvE is mostly a breeze, thanks to OP skills like SY! and gimmicks. And I'm looking for a challenge.

Yeah, I need YMLAD, Finish Him, and EVAS on ALL 7 of my heros. >____>; (not really..)


I just want it to come out sometime this year. I'd love a Tengu hero and some nice weapon skins.

While I don't mind smarter skillbars on enemies, I would far rather the effort be put into nerfing the OP skills and gimmicks. Why SY is still alive is beyond me, I can only hope that when the para update comes around, it is given a functionality change.

What I would like to see is more dungeons. Dungeons are completely repeatable and are fun, since they each have unique end-chest prizes. Seeing 10 or so new dungeons in cantha would be awesome.

I would also like to see more "common" weapon skins, available to anyone. The oppressor weapons were good because simply playing through WiK meant that one would have enough (or almost enough) medals to get an oppressor weapon.

Ok, here are my predictions :

1. Quests :
General storyline : The Envoys come to us and explain a new treat is coming and we must prepare cantha for this new challenge, by fighting against Shiro's curse remains.

1.1.Restore Kaineng city
==> Clean Kaineng's map from Afflicted
Reward : Imperial Factions and a Mini Togo

1.2. Restore Jade Sea
==> Clean Jade sea from Parias
Reward : Imperial Factions and a Luxon Ritualist Hero (Xandra is already a luxon ritualist i know but i can't think different here)

1.3. Restore Amber forest
==> Clean Kruzick sides (will we plant trees ?)
Reward : Imperial Factions and a Kurzick Mesmer Hero

1.4. A new Home
==> Help Tengus to find a new home, far from Cantha (Battle Isles ?), to avoid any futur conflict with humans, and to give them a place to go for the next purge coming (in 48 years so they have plenty of time, but i'd really love to see some Tengus in WoC)
Reward : Imperial Factions and a Tengu Assassin Hero

1.5. More quests for the Emperor...
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2. A new weapon set (1 of each type)
May be a new skin, may be a reworked one or just some under-used skin...
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3. Addition to the HoM
It's cool to be able to unlock all rewards with a few points, but more titles for full HoM would be cool too, and more stuff to put in :

3.1. HoM points
Add points from 50 to 100, with no rewards but titles for 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100 points.

3.2. Devotion
Some new minipets but not too much, 6 should be more than enough...

3.3. Fellowship
Add Keiran Thackeray, and the 3 new Hero.
Add 6th year Eternal tonics, perhaps Zaishen monthly (Eternal only)

3.4. Honor
Add WiK statue
Add WoC statue

3.5. Resilience
Add 1 set of 5 gloves (Destroyer, Chaos, Glacial, Stone and Dragon)
Add 1 set of 4 Headgear (Blindfold, Crown, Dread Mask, Mask of the Mo Zing)
==> You need to have the 5 gloves amongst all your character for them to count as an armor set in regard of HoM points. Same for Headgear.

3.6. Valor
Add new set of weapon from WoC
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4. Various Game updates
4.1. Add Imperial bounty on every map in cantha (excluding Kurzick and Luxon sides of course)
4.2. Allow party of 1 player and 11 Hero when applicable (Urgoz-Deep)
4.3. Add a dedicated minipets storage pane or special boxes like Minimoa Incubator to store dedicated minipets !!!

I know i'm hoping way too much, but Christmas in July is in a few weeks so....maybe.....

8 Assassins + Technobabble ....LOL

JUst give them Shadow Form .... BIGGER lol.....

You forgot, "All for free," and "all right now"!

Why not have them do the dishes while you're at it...?

I hope WoC won't take place only in and around outposts and doesn't has too many solo quests (without coop).
I hope ANet contemplates on Old School drops. Remember Mausoleum bugs and/or thrill; (lousy?) drop rates @ WiK.
I'm looking forward to get my Everlasting Gaki tonic... Finally! And what about the /gerbil emote?

That's it! (Razah could be there for the 4th mage attribute than.)

Ah, never touch the last few noninscribable skins! And not such a fail again like the nerf of the previously epic "Battle for Lion's Arch".

bring AS with some condition/hex removal and your good to go

Yes, but the Putrid Soul Explosion is one of the worst melee-hate skills in this entire game... Vizunah Square in particular, if you have like 5 casters blowing up at the same time you're practically done for..

The rewards would be nice, but I would like a change in scenery more.
New weps, goodies, maybe a new mes hero.

Whatever the final mission is, I want a big bad@$$ as the final enemy. Like Kanaxai and Urgoz had a surrogate baby or something.

Something to truly remember like the Iron Forgeman in the Sorrow's Furnace update.

I'm asking a lot, but I have faith still.

I really hope for some GW2 unlocks through your HoM, not like the ones we already have they are all GW1 engine stuff.
Example:
-A painting of the emperor for your home instance
-Jade or amber ornaments for display
And while they are at it please make some unlocks for the WiK too

Other that that the standard stuff:
Mini's only not as rare as the confessor/peacekeeper ones
Weapons
Armor!!
Costumes

Can I has Kimono/Hanbok for female necro?

Any news from John Stumme or anyone yet?

They havn't said anything about this in a while.

I'm too lazy to find the reference, but I recall someone from ANet(stumme?) stating that most of WoC will take place in instances like missions, and not explorable areas like WiK. I'm not sure if that answers the first part of your question or not. But I hope the instances do take place in and around outposts.

The last thing I want to do in WoC is run across three zones to watch some dialogue, and then cross two more just to get to the action. We did plenty of that the first time through Factions and WiK.

Never had a problem with it, PS+SB works pretty good for that. Besides I doubt you'll have to worry about that in WoC, considering we irradicated the Afflicted.

Back to the OP...

I would like to see more involvement of the Jade Brotherhood and Am Fah. They were never explored very much. If something is awry within the Empire, I would think those two gangs would be the first to try and manipulate the outcome toward thier needs.

Repeatable quests, Superhard mode no heroes allowed, and make the rewards great for SHM....

Prot monk + Shelter rit

Im seriously wondering if they are going to open up new areas of cantha and maybe some updates for Urgoz and The Deep. As I have said before there is a whole strip of city by the sea that is not accessible atm. It would be stupid of them to change the old factions missions, remove all the afflicted and have new mobs over the old ones like WiK.

Would be cool to explore the gangs but I think it has more to do with luxons and kurzicks. They may have a small part in it though.

New armor, new weapon skins, lots of luxon and kurzick involvement, and some kuunavang

open up areas where only GWAMM can access/explore/adventure, with items or reward which when its being shown upon other envious players, they will point at you and say "giant e-peen is on you"

New FoW content (quests, NPC's, Rewards)

First, yes you are right, there was a statement by Mr. Stumme.
But hm, yeah f. i. Rise was so exciting... I wouldn't like it.

A bigger version of JQ and FA.

Say... 20 on 20... 15 on 15 even...

Less objectives though. More all out fighting. Not necessarily in JQ or FA though.

I'd like some replayable content. I'd like some content that is just FUN. Nothing that requires too much work but nothing you can C-Space through. I want Battle For Lion's Arch V2... and make it repeatable.

More big battles.

A new outpost that is interesting and kind of fun to be in... maybe like Shing Jea Broadwalk except better.

A new minigame, we don't have nearly enough of these.


I know some of these expectations are high but I think GW needs it. Everyone is just aiming for the Elite Areas to get 50/50 and then get a big e-peen.

As others have mentioned, I'd very much like to see some lore-related content...we know Cantha will be cut off from the rest of Tyria, I'm looking forward to seeing it first hand.

And yes, please...NO more Gwen/Keirnan/Thackery stuff. Shippers killed X-Files, don't let them do it to GW.

And to echo Carboplatin's question...have we heard any more about this lately?

Why 3 mesmer? we already have two... why do we need FIVE? 1 Mes at most.

Despite the fact that this would creative a tear in the time space continuum of the mists... given that lore states that the First Born (the first few Slyvari in existance) are 25 YEARS OLD when GW2 starts...

Same as above for Slyvari. Shiro'ken is too similar to the assassin. If any put in the Ele or mesmer or something a little more unique.

Kanaxai is the same as Shiro'ken, it's not fair to those who have a Kanaxai.

Nika, yes, although she is fairly similar to Vizu.

Elder Guardian is the same as Island guardian. Definitely no.

Ling Pong = Mini panda. No.

Yes to the idea, no to the Zaishen coin idea. FoW armor costs enough and Z coins take (casually) a long time to obtain... and a new crafting material is probably a no, it means they have to remake the storage panel.



You have some good idea, but the few I've quoted need some fine tuning.

if I remembered correctly, faction was released to focus on more aspects of pvp, it should be something that related to pvp, lore on pvp will be a great start.

The return of req7 items or other stuff that just spices up the loot tables and available weapon pool.