Conversion of Imperial Faction needs to be fixed.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Earlier today I realised that when you click "convert all" option, it ignores the amount of faction you already have and your faction cap and reduces your imperial faction straight to 0. That is to say any excess faction is lost.

I think that an algorithm should be included such that the options will only convert up to the maximum available cap you have remaining, and leave the rest untouched.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

This is indeed unfortunate and it's nice of you to bring it to people's attention, but most of us cash in before it reaches the ridiculous levels where this would be a problem.

If this is a quick fix than it's /signed; but I won't ever lose a min. sleep over it.

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

This is easily fixed by simple arithmetic and common sense.

/notsigned

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sometimes you click the button accidentally when you have too much faction to convert? Its not like misclicks don't happen. What have you got to lose anyway?

_Deals_

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2010

Fort Worth, Tx

[DMNS][HEAT]

Mo/A

my imperial cap is 140k and it can take a lot of hours of doing faction pvp to even acrude that amount since nomially you gain 5k ish imperial from jq a win, and far less if you get blown out 10-0, if you're converting to balthazar faction it's 3:1 and you really don't lose that much i turned in like 14k imperial and got 5k balth pretty much, this isn't a big deal to be honest. it's kind of a deal with it and shut up situation, i'm in a cavalon alliance and honestly never heard anyone complain about it with the conversion.

/notsigned

honestly, deal with it, it's new.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Its precisely because you have a high cap that it matters? I converted 40k of balth faction at once when my cap was only 30k

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/signed

Seriously? "Herpa derp your a noob if you do this" is the best counter-arguement you people have.

This is a simple correction to a BUG in the interface.

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

Player error can never be fixed.
Even if they make a "fix" people will still find a way to screw it up, just like everything in every game.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Seriously? By that logic why not remove the checking when you have money and someone tries to trade you so that your gold balance goes over the 100k?

Wyndy

Wyndy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

in the know

Chronic Chaos

N/Me

I made that mistake too. I am converting 1k at a time to prevent throwing any away. Glad someone else noticed this also.

/signed

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Obvious logic error on Anets part. Expect fix sometime between now and heat death of the universe.

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Originally Posted by Blightfire View Post
Seriously? By that logic why not remove the checking when you have money and someone tries to trade you so that your gold balance goes over the 100k?
Yeah, lets do it for interactions with the xunlai chest as well. Item stacks too. If you try to put an 80 ecto stack on a 200 ecto stack to combine them you should just lose the extra 30 ectos because clearly you are a clueless asshole who shouldn't have their hand held by the game, amirite?

Anti Welfare

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

For Goods Sake

R/

/notsigned

saw a banner once that read "fool-proof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools"

little common sense goes a long way. if this change is made then they should make one for merchants as well so you have to verify every item sold so nobody can speed click through their bags anymore and "accidently" sell those high-end weps

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

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Originally Posted by Anti Welfare View Post
if this change is made then they should make one for merchants as well so you have to verify every item sold so nobody can speed click through their bags anymore and "accidently" sell those high-end weps
That's like the exact opposite of this change. What you suggested dramatically slows down merching trash and is a major inconvenience. This change only speeds things up by dispensing with math and extraneous clicks.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

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Originally Posted by Anti Welfare View Post
/notsigned

saw a banner once that read "fool-proof systems don't take into account the ingenuity of fools"

little common sense goes a long way. if this change is made then they should make one for merchants as well so you have to verify every item sold so nobody can speed click through their bags anymore and "accidently" sell those high-end weps
Actually, we do have one for that, if you haven't realised, you can't sell equip that is on your weapon sets, nor can you sell equipment in your equipment packs. And you were saying?

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

I'd much rather get back(have fail safe for) accidently merched goods than accidently converted/loss faction...the merching was my fault not anets....oh well

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Originally Posted by Blightfire View Post
Actually, we do have one for that, if you haven't realised, you can't sell equip that is on your weapon sets, nor can you sell equipment in your equipment packs. And you were saying?
For example wars....they have sooo many weaps that not all can be equipped or put into equipment packs......so that doesnt really apply

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
I'd much rather get back(have fail safe for) accidently merched goods than accidently converted/loss faction...the merching was my fault not anets....oh well



For example wars....they have sooo many weaps that not all can be equipped or put into equipment packs......so that doesnt really apply
Then you can hide the bags that the equipment is stored in so its not displayed by the merchant.

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

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Originally Posted by Blightfire View Post
Then you can hide the bags that the equipment is stored in so its not displayed by the merchant.
That will work if one has space....for example my war only has 4 free spaces even with heavy pack...I cannot hide everything....this is offtopic anywho

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

This thread should be enshrined as a testament to the general asshattery of this community...

/signed

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
I'd much rather get back(have fail safe for) accidently merched goods than accidently converted/loss faction...the merching was my fault not anets....oh well
Most MMO's have a buy back feature which is really sad GWs didnt get one. Same could be said for security features and an Auction House. The more I play this game the more it looks like the designers did a half ass job, despite that I still like it bc of the originality and amount of artwork they put into it.

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This thread should be enshrined as a testament to the general asshattery of this community...

/signed
QFT.

_Deals_

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2010

Fort Worth, Tx

[DMNS][HEAT]

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blightfire View Post
Its precisely because you have a high cap that it matters? I converted 40k of balth faction at once when my cap was only 30k
okay so in other words you're mathemtically challenged and didn't read 3:1 ratio, so yeah 30k balth cap means turn in imperial faction before 90k right?

ding, ding. winner. or do PvP and up your cap to 40k+ so when you do happen to get 120k imperial after a day of jq/fa/ab (by the way waste of time, since that's only ~8 zkeys (48k gold) and theres other ways of farming to get more than that amount)

so in turn, be a smart player please, and dont QQ because you made a mistake. use the 2 spherical organs in your head, called eyes and pay attention to your faction caps more.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

/signed. OR, they could simply reduce the Imperial Faction cap to the lesser of the other faction caps. (or 3x the balth cap, since it's a 3:1 trade ratio)

Lupu

Lupu

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2011

N/Rt

/signed

I have yet to try and convert my Imperial faction. I did not know of this. Thank you

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

Personally, I would agree that it should be the maxium faction that one is able to hold that should be converterted. On the other hand, one can chose to convert smaller amounts per exchange.

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
/signed. OR, they could simply reduce the Imperial Faction cap to the lesser of the other faction caps. (or 3x the balth cap, since it's a 3:1 trade ratio)
I like big caps, but this would make more sense. As for the balthazar cap, that would mean that most people are stuck at 30k. For me it would mean that my cap is even higher (210k).

kedde

kedde

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Kaons Banned Fecal Super Team [Ban]

Mo/A

Waste of developer time. Do math and be over with it.

thedukesd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

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Originally Posted by kedde View Post
Waste of developer time. Do math and be over with it.
So the next time a minor bug or game problem will appear you will say the same? Waste of developer time? Isn't the developer job to fix and improve his code?

shanan1979

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2010

R/

What about people that are new to the game a fix would benefit them. They could convert a whole bunch faction and not even notice. Not everyone has played this game for 6 years and is an Uber pvper. So saying "a little math and not being an idiot" doesn't help anyone at all.
/signed fix it for the newbies.

Kraviec

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

Blood Templars Order

Me/

/signed

also, I don't get it. you hate it cause you don't need it? wtf?

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

/signed

It should be fool-proof. A quick check before the actual faction transfer makes it fool-proof.