What is there to do in GW nowadays?

Alright, so I have played this game for 71 months, and I am amazed at how boring it is. It seems to me like everything that is fun in GW is removed/destroyed by a.net.

Things I used to do and enjoy include:

First of all, playing pvp. My favourite format was always TA and well, we all know what happened there. Next is HA and GvG, but the meta is so lame it's just not fun at all. It's also hard to get teams without taking pugs/guests which really sucks. And RA needs no commenting. It just sucks.

So pvp isn't fun anymore.

Other things I used to like was to solo farm challenging areas like UW. However, since the dhuum skeletons, I cannot do this either. I also enjoyed farming stuff like mountain trolls and minotaurs (well, only occasionally), but that's not possible anymore either due to that thing where if you kill alot of monsters quickly they won't drop anything. I also liked farming fow spiders with my warrior, but since the armor stacking nerf that doesn't really work.

I also liked pre searing, but it has been kind of "commersialized" and so I don't really like it anymore.

It seems like the only thing to do now is speed clears and title hunting. But I hate both those. I want some challenge when I'm playing, but these are just... unchallenging, uninteresting and tiresome. And I refuse to work towards some stupid goal like titles which I have no need for. That's just a waste of time. Since I have no interest in gw2 playing for HoM is also out of question. And even if I did want to play gw2, it would still feel like a huge waste of time playing for the HoM. Playing hours and hours and hours just to get some stupid weapon skin/title which you don't need at all? No thanks.

So what is there to do in this game? Is there any reason to play it at all? It's even pointless collecting gold/ectos etc. because there's nothing you can buy for it, except ugly weapon skins and stupid minipets (give me a break). Oh yeah, and useless titles ofcourse.

It really feels like there's nothing actually "fun" in this game, it's all about grinding to reach goals which you shouldn't even need to reach in the first place. I mean, if there were no titles, no HoM, and so on, would there be any point playing this game at all? It seems to me like everyone that's playing is nothing more than a string puppet in the hands of a.net, grinding away as a.net pulls the strings by implementing useless "achievements" which you just MUST HAVE!!! But isn't the point of computer games to have fun?

When I would get like you are above about things my mom would tell me I needed an Opterectamy. That is the operation that disconnects the line between your eyes and your butthole so you don't have such a crappy outlook on life

If the titles are not your thing then there really isn't anything for you if you cannot figure out new solo farming. It happens, no game appeals to anyone forever. Best advise I can give you is go find something else to play.

I still have a great deal of fun in GW and have been playing a few months longer than you. I am now helping my friends get to 50/50 and having a great time. Just depends on what you consider fun I guess.

Sorry for being a "string puppet" because I enjoy working towards titles. And PvP is still alright I guess, but apart from those there isn't much else to do. But that's because we've all done it to death already - this game is old now.

If you're finding this game boring and have no interest in playing GW2, why not go to another game? This isn't gona get interesting enough for you overnight.

Huh. You want a challenge, you want something that's not boring, yet you want to solo farm for good drops. There's a lot of things that are extremely challenging to do, and can be personally rewarding. Sure, they don't have these amazing drops you're looking for, but they're a personal challenge.

Honestly, it looks like you just want WoW with all it's drops. You can still farm minotaurs if you've enjoyed it - why does the loot matter, if that's what you enjoy? Go play another game if this has lost it's appeal.

What's the point of fancy armor that could be better than the others? To your own points, it would just help to accomplish these silly little titles. It seems like all you want is a grind, where you can feel monetarily better than others. If you're wanting a challenge, there's plenty of them. Of course, they won't drop amazing loot that you can feel rich with, and there's nothing to buy besides status symbols, either. Sorry about that :P

Try codex, with PvP. That breaks up the meta, and it's been fairly popular lately.

Personally, I enjoy the game and will often make my own challenges, while completing titles, challenges ANet has given to us.

Actually the loot doesn't matter. It's basically just to give an illusion of it having a point. If I wanted to earn gold/ectos which I have no use for anyway, I would. I'm looking for fun and a challenge, but if there are NO drops it just... gives an impression of it being as pointless as it really is. A big part of the fun of those farms were to watch a huge group just explode and lots of loot flying through the air. And also, monsters now flee from aoe.

And I have played/sometimes play codex. And it's alright sometimes. Sort of reminds me of TA, only about ten times worse.

The game is six years old. There hasn't been any major content addition after EotN. Did you really think anything would still be challenging after it has been there for 4+ years?

If you aren't having fun any more, look for it somewhere else. You don't have to continually play this game, just drop it and return when some new content is released.

Trying to force yourself to like the game when there is clearly no fun to be had anymore only will make you get bitter or jaded with the game.

Just some friendly advice.

Buy another game / play a profession you haven't played / use unusual builds / do random quests and missions with friends for fun / organise community events.

You could be doing all that instead of coming here to whine.

Also, buy another game.

Oh, and I forgot to say:
Buy another game.

Well I spotted your problem. You've played the game for 71 months. That's a long damn time. I don't mean to sound rude, but, go outside. Do something else. You honestly expect anet to provide 71 months of fresh content?

No, don't think he expects that, but they could at least do something "big" every year or every 6 months, like releasing the other world of the gods that's 4 more places of content that wouldn't easily get repetitive or boring at least not in the beginning when everyone is getting used to the place and when that time comes the new world would be released so you could go to the new one or stick the the one you just got used to if you liked it.

The difference 'tween online games & others is onliners allow one to play with other people. Do it. Seek pugs or anyone wanting help. Talk to guildies..

I still love GW, you need to find your own challenges. If you dont want to try another game or take up fishing/golf etc then why not train up some newbies to pvp just the way you like it. That should keep you busy for some time :P

CA and casual dungeon farm.

nothing really gets even close to GW and its concept (of pvping, especially).

Well, surely it's not appealing to him anymore, so why force yourself to like the game?

Yeah, that would be nice, but that's also highly impossible with only a half-dozen people still working on it. Creating new areas is a huge amount of work.

Maybe join a high-end PvE guild or something...

Learn to DoA/UW/FoW/Deep/Urgoz. I know for a fact that I was overly bored of guild wars at one stage, but I got back into Speed Clearing often, and i'm enjoying Guild Wars again, there are plenty of guilds out there that are willing to take in people who want to learn.

If you've already done your fair share of Speed clears, and aren't feeling that, i'd recommend just doing Dungeon farming, Chest running in Cantha for old-schools, or maybe try and make an extra stack of ectos trading in Kamadan, or, just move on to a different game for a bit.

Good luck.

Move onto another game I suppose. I tried myself, but nothing really compares to Guild Wars even when playing with heroes.

New characters are the best way to get back into the game. Unless you ofcourse have 10 chars fully developed then i can see your problem.

The new HM quests are quite fun and difficult. Try them see how you do
Vanquishing areas with limited party sizes?

Ascalon to ToA Vanquish? Thats quite a tricky one.
Organising events?
Running people and communication with them?
Doing missions other people need?
Trying to complete UW HM with a balanced team
Same for FoW^ and DoA and Urgoz and Deep.
I know that a) it can be hard to get a group of people on the game to do X or Y but if it truely is THAT HARD. Why do we still get people completeing Urgoz? Still get pugs in AE1 Gate of anguish?

I understand 71 months is along time to play but i seriously doubt you have tried EVERYTHING the game has to offer. The Kurzick / Luxon Challenge missions?

Pvp- HA RA Codex
PvePvP- FA JQ AB <can be a laugh with a synced guild team

I mean by all means shoot me down if you have done everything and i mean everything on different chars in new ways.. Instead of the usual /Discord heros /AP caller bar /WIN GUILDWARS...

But GW still isn't the only game out there, and MMOs aren't the only game genre, either.

I love GW, but it's nowhere near being the only game I play.

Lol! Nice.

To OP: You want some French Cries with that Whaaamburger?
Play another game, clearly you don't enjoy this one.
There are plenty of things to do, you just aren't looking hard enough.

I find it very therapeutic to have one or two games of completely different genres to put into the mix.
I'm in the middle of grinding (yes grinding) through the VQ, explorer, Zaishen, and Kurzick titles.
With the exception of PvP only characters on my Kurz and Zaishen titles, I do everything with my para. As you know the para is not meta for some endgame content and my guild is very small (its' family).
So accomplishing things take a lot of time, but makes it rewarding.

I would think that if I was one of those guys who rolled an SF sin (pre-nerf) and farmed 1000 ectos and 50 armbraces, I would be tired of the game by now.
However because I refused to do things the easy way, I still find aspects of the game challenging and rewarding.

Considering the total money you spent for 71 months of playing, I really see no reason for complaining, after all it's only natural it's getting boring. Imagine how much money you would have wasted on other things during the time in last 71 months you've been online.

Well you could always dwg or shadow form yourself through DOA. That seems to be the main thing in GW nowadays. Lame ass skills.

Create a thread requesting experienced players for manly spike or trenchway whatever is used in that place, party search/PUG would be difficult to get that going.

have you finished the Wik and hearts of the north (that was pretty much solo)? Have you played every profession --all 10?
for me I am doing the zaishen stuff (pugging is an experience in itself)...and v'qing areas that I had not wanted to previous to them being offered for zquesting.

If you dont find the game interesting anymore....dont play it, no one is forcing you to play, there are plenty of other games out there as well as RL stuff. SO --do something else.

You could have stopped right there.

There are literally thousands upon thousands of video games for a multitude of platform out there. There are also literally thousands upon thousands of COMPLETELY FREE online games out there.

If GW is no longer floating your boat, you move on to something new... it's not like there aren't (say it with me now) thousands and thousands of titles to choose from.

Considering that ANet continues to release free content (WiK, HotN, WoC) for a B2P game without a monthly subscription AND still bothers to add other new content, tweaks, skill balances etc. says that the problem isn't that they're not adding to what's available - the problem is that it's not to your liking. Nothing wrong with that... no one is going to like everything. But there are a multitude of other games for you to choose from, and it's likely at least one of them is doing things you'd like... go play that.

There's no reason to force yourself to do things you don't enjoy, especially not for a game as cheap as GW is. You've played for 71 months? So basically, you spent $1/month for how many thousands of hours of entertainment? You've gotten your money's worth out of it... time to move on. Think back fondly on the fun you once had in GW, and then turn your attention to finding some new fun... believe me, it's not hard to find.

I see the OP did not mention JQ/FA and AB which are the best pvp formats in this game now.

The game is 71 months old and you're "amazed" that you find it boring now? The average replay value for most games is well under 100 hours.

The simple fact is, it's an old game. If your friends have quit and you're tired of pve and pvp, then play something else.

I just came back to the game after a 3 year break and I'm enjoying the 7 heroes addition. Been working on some vanquishing and playing with builds. I did the Guardian title back when you had to take some hench and had no interest in vanquishing at the time, but I'm actually having some fun with it now. Gives me something to do when I'm listening to the Howard Stern show.

Start a new Glee Cast in GW. Push for more emotes, but execute what you can with the tools possible. Tune us into an online internet-radio station to listen to you guys dance and sing to music. Pull flash mobs on the steps of LA, and other outposts at random. Rehearse in unpopulated districts with as much secrecy as possible, only at first, of course.

You'd need:
A manager (yourself)
A choreographer/organizer (your close confidant)
A dance cast (guildies)

71 months, and I bet you never thought of that.
Promote the arts. Even if it is the pop-culture.

I never understood why people came onto here and complained about a game not being fun. If GW isn't fun, then don't play it. It really is as simple as that.

I have pulled the flash mob in L.A. before, our alliance passed around a El Trapdoor tonic and was very entertaining. Guild Wars is the best when you take a break to try a new game then realize that game is kind of terrible or it's playable, but you get bored and go back to it once more.

Because they care about the game, if they didn't they would be silent and THAT's what you/Anet should care about

When people complain about the game its because they like the game and they wish it was better/longer/more pretty.

When people are quiet about the game is when you should be worried.


There are many mmos and other games out there as a good example of this.

He's complaining that the game is no longer fun for him because he has played it for so long. The obvious response is to play a different game or pick up a different hobby. Its that simple, and not something that you have to consult an online forum to realize.

I may not agree with you that the obvious thing to do is to ditch GW and go play a different game, but I can see why you would say that.
I was merely replying to the "why do people complain" statement.


As to the OP, I know how you feel but have you given it a chance?I mean don't bother with UW the way it is now its not about enjoyment anymore its only about the bling.

I have recently started vanquishing with purely hero team,I decided I'm almost entirely going to give up on actually make this a multiplayer game and just see if I can do everything with just heroes.


I have gotten tired of when I ask for groups for vanquishing that people with 6/8 player team being heroes asking me to join.If I wanted to do it with heroes I would do it myself, I'm not asking to simply finish the area I'm asking to have people to do it with, maybe we can talk while we do it...

That's what's clans for.

Because out of 8 people you might find in PUG, probably atleast 1-2 will be douchebag, and then you can expect rage, leaving, swearing etcs.

While, if you are in guild that's a fun one, and are simple enjoying the game (disclamer: don't think now that those guilds do some easy staff, did DoA with my guild and we had lot of fun doing it with heroes and such etc.), and then it's not hard to find a group to do anything. On evenings when I'm online and VQ, i usually have 2+ guidlies in any vq, don't care about area.

If you're not interested in GW2, I don't see a point in playing GW1 anymore. Clearly Anet has moved from it and is only making the game easier so their loyal GW1 players can have an advantage of getting GW1 weaponskins in GW2. Why do you think the 7 hero update was added? So people could get titles. Why do you think Drunkard was changed? So people could get GWAMM.

Meanwhile, I find the game more fun when I re-roll a character, but the hardest part about GW is trying to start doing something. I often find myself going "argh I want to get this title but I don't know if I want to start". There's a 10% chance I'll actually do something, and when I start, I don't stop. I didn't play GW seriously for about 2 weeks. Returned last night and maxed 2 titles fairly easily.

As far as PvP, you can blame the people that ruined it. It wasn't really Anet, it's just that people cheated, so the only way to really prevent that was to make it completely random, thus RA. RA would actually be pretty fun... if people didn't suck at the game and use it to try builds.

ROFL. Seriously, when are people NOT gonna cheat if given the chance?

Fixed. People who play PvP seriously, by and large do so for its competitive nature, hence the thousands of threads crying about it being unbalanced. I am assuming that since the arenas you mentioned are not competitive at all, and in many ways are virtually PvE, its probably why he doesnt play them.

AB you spend 80% of the time running around from one skirmish to the next, much like a lot of pve. And JQ/FA you can actually win without even engaging the enemy players at all.... It could be argued that RA is also not competitive, which is pretty much true, but at least the aim of the arena is to actually kill the opposing players.

I don't mind the idiots, I have a pretty thick thin and mostly don't get bothered by the idiotics.

If two people are douchebags it doesn't bother me if its so bad I can simply close chat if they are the kind that over aggro I don't mind because often I am able to carry mi team.( it might not be me alone , but in some of those cases I feel if i wasn't there the team would have done something else and failed) , and another thing, I don't know what game you are you playing but I have never gotten douchebags that were that bad in normal play, I remember a few times long ago when doing FoW that I gotten 1 player that decided too bee an ass and ignore us and goes and aggros the bad group and we get wiped, but what happens after that is that we got back to town kick the guy get a new one and go for it again.

Rage when unfounded is stupid and can be ignored just like the swearing, again I have a thick skin but even when it gets really bad I can just ignore.

The idiots that leave in most cases shouldn't hurt you and you should still be able to do the objective.


Edit: I would do these things with my guild but my guild is A PvP guild and even that we aren't doing that much right now.

Do we really need another thread from someone describing how they don't like game anymore?

It's been said over and over and over. People play for different reasons and enjoy different things. If you like what is in GW, play. If you don't, move on. There's no secret fun thing that people do and not tell people. If you can't find what you're looking for in GW, it's because it's not there.

The game is six years old. It is to be expected that you'd get bored with after all that time. Not sure what you're expecting from the game.

Me? I tend to spend my time doing dungeon speed clears. I'm not sure why, to be honest; even when I get that rare drop, it just sits in storage because I can't be bothered to sell it. I have more money than I could ever need, but I haven't bought anything from another player in over a year.

I guess I still come on because, after several thousands of hours given to this game, I just can't quit.