Don't know if there is a thread like this, but I do know there has been recent talk about titles.
I myself like going for titles, but never really went for them until I saw that you can get GWAMM for GW2, so I worked on it.
This weekend I maxed LB and Vanguard. I now have 26 of the required 30 titles. The last 4 I'm getting are Norn, Sweet Tooth, Party Animal, and Drunkard. I have some experience in them, but jeez... after getting all the other titles... these are the worst I think.
So, I ask, what are your least favorite titles, and how can Anet improve on making them better, if possible?
Obviously, for me, the consumable ones are horrible. I'm not big on making money, but I just feel like I'm wasting cash buying beer and making my character an alcoholic or diabetic buy spamming treats. I hate trying to trade with other players, and compete, especially without a marketplace. I think ArenaNet could make these titles better by either making consumables easier to obtain or lower the requirements. 10,000 bottles of beer at 80-100g each is... eww. I also hate the Luxon/Kurzick ones, simply because they use to be PvP titles, but now it's just another rep grind. Anet could improve this by making it so you get imperial AND luxon/kurzick faction instead of Balth, or by simply giving more for wins in PvP areas. Making it a PvE title ruined it for me.
So, what are yours?
NOTE: THIS IS NOT A THREAD COMPLAINING ABOUT TITLES, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW WHICH TITLES PEOPLE HATE THE MOST
Which titles do you hate?
thedeadlyassassin
cosyfiep
the account wide titles--any and all of them. I have yet to max any of them and by my calculations it will take me approximately 10 years to.
the party/sweet/drunkard I was able to max by just playing the game (and doing nic runs, afking for every event finale etc)....so those werent hard, just annoying.
so luxon, kurzick, lucky, unlucky, chest, wisdom
(and any pvp title since I cant pvp worth ....)
the party/sweet/drunkard I was able to max by just playing the game (and doing nic runs, afking for every event finale etc)....so those werent hard, just annoying.
so luxon, kurzick, lucky, unlucky, chest, wisdom
(and any pvp title since I cant pvp worth ....)
Chocobo1
All of them. None of them actually mean anything, they are all literally just titles that reward you for grinding.
Sidenote: Why do you say this thread isn't for complaining about titles? That sounds exactly what it's for.
Sidenote: Why do you say this thread isn't for complaining about titles? That sounds exactly what it's for.
thedeadlyassassin
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All of them. None of them actually mean anything, they are all literally just titles that reward you for grinding.
Sidenote: Why do you say this thread isn't for complaining about titles? That sounds exactly what it's for. |
PowerRAV
Just one... Gamer, it's too rediculously high to max it and is not available to work on that often. It's like the one title I think should be redone.
rkubik
For me the worst are the luxon/kurzick. I am r11 Luxon and r5 kurzick and can find no motivation to do them. I mainly PVE and it gets old farming and I can only find a little time here and there to do JQ or FA. I am hoping Winds of Change will have some new ways to gain some faction.
Snograt
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
the account wide titles--any and all of them. I have yet to max any of them and by my calculations it will take me approximately 10 years to.
the party/sweet/drunkard I was able to max by just playing the game (and doing nic runs, afking for every event finale etc)....so those werent hard, just annoying. so luxon, kurzick, lucky, unlucky, chest, wisdom (and any pvp title since I cant pvp worth ....) |
_Aphotic_
Wisdom. You can ID every gold item you find from day 1, but you will (I didn't anyway) never get the max title without having to go out of your way and buy a few......... >.> Yes I have tried Vaettir farming (0-5 per run). Still. Not. There.
wilebill
All the titles are lame excuses for real game play. Yeah, I've got max Sunspear on a couple, Luxon 12, bunch of others. All a big waste of time.
X-Plosiv
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Wisdom. You can ID every gold item you find from day 1, but you will (I didn't anyway) never get the max title without having to go out of your way and buy a few......... >.> Yes I have tried Vaettir farming (0-5 per run). Still. Not. There.
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Let's say, you are farming 100 golds per day :/
30d x 100g = 3000 golds per month.
Lets say less, lets say you farm 20 days or few days off, few days more, and you make 2000 golds per month.
5 months of doing this will get you 10 000 golds, and voila, wisdom title is maxed.
Now before you say something, remember, it is a grind. Like Luxon/Kurzicks are, so I just want to state, wisdom is possible :/
Mouse at Large
Personally, after 5 years playing, I've kind of classified the titles into 3 categories (PvP excepted)
Game playing titles - Vanquisher, Guardian etc.
Semi-game playing - Skill hunter, possibly cartographer, Luxon / Kurzick / Sunspear / Lightbringer etc.
"Consumption" titles - drunkard / sweet tooth etc.
I know there are others that don't fit exactly into these categories, but as far as I'm concerned, my interest diminishes the further down the list I go
Game playing titles - Vanquisher, Guardian etc.
Semi-game playing - Skill hunter, possibly cartographer, Luxon / Kurzick / Sunspear / Lightbringer etc.
"Consumption" titles - drunkard / sweet tooth etc.
I know there are others that don't fit exactly into these categories, but as far as I'm concerned, my interest diminishes the further down the list I go
aspi
the pvp ones, eveyone who has done pvp here can agree that pvp is full of people who think they are the greatest gift to gw.
X-Plosiv
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Semi-game playing - Skill hunter, possibly cartographer, Luxon / Kurzick / Sunspear / Lightbringer etc.
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But you can do cartographer while doing VQ
_Deals_
I did all the titles i needed and out of everything i hated anything to do with tyria whether it was skill capping, protector/guardian, vanquisher or cartographer. i did everything there thus far except vanquisher and now that's gonna be my final project. i've done almost all non pvp related grind titles, some a bit over board.
Edit: also, Luxon and Kurzick are probably easier to get than JQ/FA/AB, i honestl'y don't care about faction PvP, i vanquishes constantly for fun and other people and i have 20mil luxon and 14mil kurzick so yeah it's pretty much player preference. as well as my alt account has 5mil in each. so they really aren't that hard and even with JA,FA,AB it was ALWAYS a grind no-matter what, 10mil+ automatically means grind.
Edit: also, Luxon and Kurzick are probably easier to get than JQ/FA/AB, i honestl'y don't care about faction PvP, i vanquishes constantly for fun and other people and i have 20mil luxon and 14mil kurzick so yeah it's pretty much player preference. as well as my alt account has 5mil in each. so they really aren't that hard and even with JA,FA,AB it was ALWAYS a grind no-matter what, 10mil+ automatically means grind.
bsoltan
Lucky and Unlucky.
Everything else I can get some enjoyment out of completing and see some purpose to it.
Standing on rings for hours at a time and dumping gold to an NPC? Boooorrrrring. And good luck trying to max them just with lockpicks and clovers. ^_^
Everything else I can get some enjoyment out of completing and see some purpose to it.
Standing on rings for hours at a time and dumping gold to an NPC? Boooorrrrring. And good luck trying to max them just with lockpicks and clovers. ^_^
Venganza
All the titles are what they are, nothing more, nothing less.
Guess what people? No one forces you to undertake any of them.
As for difficulty, it comes down to investment of time and goals.
I did gwamm in 4 months on my Rt, I am r5 Wisdom in 10 months (never purchased unids either), and I went from r3 Lux to r12 max in under 14 days (mqsc) and party, alcohol and sweet, well they are the fastest titles to max, it just takes cash, and cash is simply UW/DOA etc etc.
Don't want to put in the time/effort? Don't, but it seems to me those who bemoan titles are generally the ones who have none.
GW is about titles and "stuff" always was. Some of you do not participate in PvP or persue the various endeavors which embody the name of this game anymore, that does not change the fact that without goals to persue, we would all be wandering about Ascalon aimlessly killing critters.
Oh and God forbid Anet waters down the game or prostitutes titles much more, might as well make a command /gwamm and be done with it.
Guess what people? No one forces you to undertake any of them.
As for difficulty, it comes down to investment of time and goals.
I did gwamm in 4 months on my Rt, I am r5 Wisdom in 10 months (never purchased unids either), and I went from r3 Lux to r12 max in under 14 days (mqsc) and party, alcohol and sweet, well they are the fastest titles to max, it just takes cash, and cash is simply UW/DOA etc etc.
Don't want to put in the time/effort? Don't, but it seems to me those who bemoan titles are generally the ones who have none.
GW is about titles and "stuff" always was. Some of you do not participate in PvP or persue the various endeavors which embody the name of this game anymore, that does not change the fact that without goals to persue, we would all be wandering about Ascalon aimlessly killing critters.
Oh and God forbid Anet waters down the game or prostitutes titles much more, might as well make a command /gwamm and be done with it.
thedeadlyassassin
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All the titles are what they are, nothing more, nothing less.
Guess what people? No one forces you to undertake any of them. As for difficulty, it comes down to investment of time and goals. I did gwamm in 4 months on my Rt, I am r5 Wisdom in 10 months (never purchased unids either), and I went from r3 Lux to r12 max in under 14 days (mqsc) and party, alcohol and sweet, well they are the fastest titles to max, it just takes cash, and cash is simply UW/DOA etc etc. Don't want to put in the time/effort? Don't, but it seems to me those who bemoan titles are generally the ones who have none. GW is about titles and "stuff" always was. Some of you do not participate in PvP or persue the various endeavors which embody the name of this game anymore, that does not change the fact that without goals to persue, we would all be wandering about Ascalon aimlessly killing critters. Oh and God forbid Anet waters down the game or prostitutes titles much more, might as well make a command /gwamm and be done with it. |
Now please stick to the topic of the thread, which is asking which title do you hate?
Iuris
I hate the original LDoA.
Originally, it was abusive of methods and was, essentially, being AFK a lot of the time while monsters killed you. Far as I'm concerned, it wasn't an achievement - it was an embarassment.
Not the new one, though, now there's a title that requires actual playing, not time wasting, so I like it now. 'course, my primary can't get it now...
Originally, it was abusive of methods and was, essentially, being AFK a lot of the time while monsters killed you. Far as I'm concerned, it wasn't an achievement - it was an embarassment.
Not the new one, though, now there's a title that requires actual playing, not time wasting, so I like it now. 'course, my primary can't get it now...
makosi
Cartography - and I have 4 Legendary Cartographers.
Each time I maxed it I did one continent per day (usually 85%->100%) which is not good for the back or eyes.
Never again.
Each time I maxed it I did one continent per day (usually 85%->100%) which is not good for the back or eyes.
Never again.
Wannagotoheaven
All the titles that affect your gameplay: rep titles. Without them you're left at a disadvantage for some things. And not making them account wide discourages rerolling
Koyote
Cartography, luckily I only need to get Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer to get to 45 HoM points. I also hate the Gamer title because it doesn't increase my Balthazar faction cap.
TheRaven
Well, we can all argue that some titles are too much of a grind and that some are just boring. We all have our favorites and those that we hate to work on.
However, in my opinion, the one that is simply the most unfair to players would have to be the unlucky title. I've leveled both Lucky and Unlucky up to rank 6. Lucky is maxed, unlucky isn't. Why have the extra rank on unlucky?
However, in my opinion, the one that is simply the most unfair to players would have to be the unlucky title. I've leveled both Lucky and Unlucky up to rank 6. Lucky is maxed, unlucky isn't. Why have the extra rank on unlucky?
cataphract
I never liked the Skill Hunter title. Just thinking about capping in Tyria makes me shiver.
LifeInfusion
Anything that gives stat bonuses, which discourages alts and rewards grind.
Lightbringer, Norn, asura, Deldrimor (not so much with the dungeons but it still takes time), Vanguard (not so much with Keiran /Hearts of the North quests in place but you still need to grind it). Sunspear is easy in comparison: I did a scratch character to rank 7 just doing the storyline; it doesn't have many skills linked to it, just sunspear rebirth signet.
Lucky/Unlucky, Luxon/Kurzick, Vanquisher, Wisdom and treasurehunter may be grindy, but they don't give stat bonuses that matter in combat (i.e. skills).
Doing explorer without texmod is a pain too, since after 95% it's all scraping.
And PvP titles + Skillz are more or less unmaxable without insane amounts of time. But most people don't consider them titles to max anyway, you don't need to do so for HoM.
Tyrian skillhunter is a pain sometimes, but there's tomes.
LDOA is another time waster.
Lightbringer, Norn, asura, Deldrimor (not so much with the dungeons but it still takes time), Vanguard (not so much with Keiran /Hearts of the North quests in place but you still need to grind it). Sunspear is easy in comparison: I did a scratch character to rank 7 just doing the storyline; it doesn't have many skills linked to it, just sunspear rebirth signet.
Lucky/Unlucky, Luxon/Kurzick, Vanquisher, Wisdom and treasurehunter may be grindy, but they don't give stat bonuses that matter in combat (i.e. skills).
Doing explorer without texmod is a pain too, since after 95% it's all scraping.
And PvP titles + Skillz are more or less unmaxable without insane amounts of time. But most people don't consider them titles to max anyway, you don't need to do so for HoM.
Tyrian skillhunter is a pain sometimes, but there's tomes.
LDOA is another time waster.
Stimm
Before the change I hated the drunkard title, now thats it is spammable its fine. I ll always hate the Unlucky and Lucky titles.
Abedeus
Every one of them. Especially the Allegiance titles, because they are purely about grinding - at least Protectors show some kind of skill required. I remember I especially despised Ursan, since you had to max it to go to DoA with dumb pugs who couldn't run anything but Ursan.
Mokeiro
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All the titles that affect your gameplay: rep titles. Without them you're left at a disadvantage for some things. And not making them account wide discourages rerolling
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Titles are a pain, titles affecting gameplay its an excrement.
Swingline
All the titles are pointless. Titles are usually implemented to increase grind time with keeping you on their game longer and that's exactly what happened with this game. Where oh where did my grind free game go.
macke
Cartography!!! Hug every single wall in the game to gain this everlasting title of stupidity and boredom!!!
gremlin
Where do I start.
A title should be something the character you are playing in the game earns.
So in order of annoyance.
Account wide titles
Titles obtainable only by stupidly repetitive actions ldoa is fixed hurrah
Those obtained by going afk and or dying a million times.
Ones you can buy easily.
Silly ones like Party animal and drunkard
Cartographer a title that invites you to climb every tree look behind every bush and stick your head down every rabbit hole, by that criteria this entire planet is unexplored.
There are probably more but these are the main ones.
for me the rot set in when players started moaning that they were gaining the titles not their "toons" hate that word so any title gained should be account wide.
A title should be something the character you are playing in the game earns.
So in order of annoyance.
Account wide titles
Titles obtainable only by stupidly repetitive actions ldoa is fixed hurrah
Those obtained by going afk and or dying a million times.
Ones you can buy easily.
Silly ones like Party animal and drunkard
Cartographer a title that invites you to climb every tree look behind every bush and stick your head down every rabbit hole, by that criteria this entire planet is unexplored.
There are probably more but these are the main ones.
for me the rot set in when players started moaning that they were gaining the titles not their "toons" hate that word so any title gained should be account wide.
darktyco
1) Rep titles (grind = benefits)
2) Rep titles that aren't account wide (repeat grind for the same benefits)
3) Any title that has my character in the original Prophecies game, other than LDoA (Tyria seems the dryest of all the content).
Edit: 4) Any title that requires grinding or other sleep inducing boredom. I believe this is 90% of them.
2) Rep titles that aren't account wide (repeat grind for the same benefits)
3) Any title that has my character in the original Prophecies game, other than LDoA (Tyria seems the dryest of all the content).
Edit: 4) Any title that requires grinding or other sleep inducing boredom. I believe this is 90% of them.
Dot Rotten
Gamer for sure. I've only ever seen one guy with it maxed in my 5 years of playing.
It's too much of a grind, and comes about rarely.
Also, Cartographer, Eww.. Who actually wants to wall hug, seriously? It's a horrible grind, and I respect people that actually maxed it ^^, Canthan was enough for me..
It's too much of a grind, and comes about rarely.
Also, Cartographer, Eww.. Who actually wants to wall hug, seriously? It's a horrible grind, and I respect people that actually maxed it ^^, Canthan was enough for me..
Missing HB
I don't really hate title , i would just say i more likely hate the way they have to be earned and problems they probably didn't think about....
- Luck/Unluck : they probably didn't expect players to just sit and afk whole events to get it
- Lightbringer/Sunspear : probably there should have been more quests and hard ones so you can get more points before having to farm it..... Anyone will say that they get those titles by farming elona desert over and over....
Generally like gremlin and darktyco said , titles where you simply have to farm a place over and over or by just not doing anything....
I would also add cartographer too , which isn't something easy to get without Texmod , especially for Prophecies.... You can do all corners , hug every wall and still get 99.x % there , because of mountains , little corners , having to insist on a place to get 0.01% , etc....
- Luck/Unluck : they probably didn't expect players to just sit and afk whole events to get it
- Lightbringer/Sunspear : probably there should have been more quests and hard ones so you can get more points before having to farm it..... Anyone will say that they get those titles by farming elona desert over and over....
Generally like gremlin and darktyco said , titles where you simply have to farm a place over and over or by just not doing anything....
I would also add cartographer too , which isn't something easy to get without Texmod , especially for Prophecies.... You can do all corners , hug every wall and still get 99.x % there , because of mountains , little corners , having to insist on a place to get 0.01% , etc....
the one you love to hate
i only dislike HA... fame is such a drag. if you aren't r9 then you dont get in a group... but guess what... all you people who are r9+... here is a good eye opener... YOU WERE ALL AT 0 FAME ONCE... so you had to grind to get to your rank. give me a chance too.
the rest of the titles are just a cake walk. i currently am at 26 max titles with only vanquishers to finish. i dont dislike those titles... just dread having to do them is all. i put it off as i did all the others.
also i would say that i dont agree with the majority of you for your thoughts on all titles being account wide. i was happy when they made wisdom account wide. now i am at 6k finished. but i will knock that one out with some vaettir grinding. if i ever find time to do so...
the rest of the titles are just a cake walk. i currently am at 26 max titles with only vanquishers to finish. i dont dislike those titles... just dread having to do them is all. i put it off as i did all the others.
also i would say that i dont agree with the majority of you for your thoughts on all titles being account wide. i was happy when they made wisdom account wide. now i am at 6k finished. but i will knock that one out with some vaettir grinding. if i ever find time to do so...
vader
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Anything that gives stat bonuses, which discourages alts and rewards grind.
Lightbringer, Norn, asura, Deldrimor (not so much with the dungeons but it still takes time), Vanguard (not so much with Keiran /Hearts of the North quests in place but you still need to grind it). Sunspear is easy in comparison: I did a scratch character to rank 7 just doing the storyline; it doesn't have many skills linked to it, just sunspear rebirth signet. |
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Sunsp...unspear_skills
Lord Natural
Any title that's a pure money sink. I have no interest in standing on rings for hours at a time or playing with a "drunk" screen for weeks. I can respect any title that requires actual game play to acquire.
neighto
out of all the titles I have for GWMM, the only one that I really didnt enjoy doing was the skill capping in Tyria. That was such a pain
Ximvotn
Anything but Guardian, Cartographer, Skill Hunter, and Vanquisher.
MithranArkanere
It's not that I hate any, but I don't like the ones that force you to stop playing to get them.
For example, without farming, trading, chest running and standing AFK for hours in the rings, it's impossible to get Lucky/Unlucky, Wisdom and Treasure Hunter in less than one year.
I got all the other non-PvP titles just by playing normally through the game, without detours or stopping to farm anything. Some dungeons here, some vanquishes there, some Zaishen quests, and you get the reputation titles without farming the points.
And for the festival titles, you can just get the booze slowly while playing with the cash you get from the normal drops along the way, and make some quests during festivals to get some extra.
For example, without farming, trading, chest running and standing AFK for hours in the rings, it's impossible to get Lucky/Unlucky, Wisdom and Treasure Hunter in less than one year.
I got all the other non-PvP titles just by playing normally through the game, without detours or stopping to farm anything. Some dungeons here, some vanquishes there, some Zaishen quests, and you get the reputation titles without farming the points.
And for the festival titles, you can just get the booze slowly while playing with the cash you get from the normal drops along the way, and make some quests during festivals to get some extra.
thedeadlyassassin
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It's not that I hate any, but I don't like the ones that force you to stop playing to get them.
For example, without farming, trading, chest running and standing AFK for hours in the rings, it's impossible to get Lucky/Unlucky, Wisdom and Treasure Hunter in less than one year. I got all the other non-PvP titles just by playing normally through the game, without detours or stopping to farm anything. Some dungeons here, some vanquishes there, some Zaishen quests, and you get the reputation titles without farming the points. And for the festival titles, you can just get the booze slowly while playing with the cash you get from the normal drops along the way, and make some quests during festivals to get some extra. |
I got LMOTN, Guardian, Vanquisher/Cartographer, Survivor, Lightbringer, Asuran, Norn, and Vanguard while still not having enough money from drops to max 1 consumable title. So, the advice of "pick up everything" is helpful to player that basically wants to go through a campaign. I've done that. It's going to require a lot more farming to get the consumable titles.