Which titles do you hate?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

All character-based.
Perfect discouragement for people who like to play with multiple characters.

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

i hate them all

SharonC

SharonC

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

USA

Confused and Ridiculously Lost [CARL]

R/

My least favorite would have to be cartographer. Still working on it, but very very slowly, and not sure I will ever finish it since you can't get into the mission areas of Tyria without actually doing the missions for the most part, and the PvP areas in Cantha and Elona are included in the cartography. I suck at all forms of PvP, and have no plans to go into JQ or FA and hurt the team I am assigned to because I am very bad at it, and am only there to map it.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

I swear this is a repost, I read that same intro last week.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

I hate the "Unlucky" title.

I'm very unlucky. I get r13's out of endboss chests. I break lockpicks so often I've stopped buying them. I get lousy drops. My ex-wife had already decided she was gonna leave me when I was buying us a house, and let me do it anyway. I only get like 1 ecto per full clear of UW, when all my friends (and the henchies!) all get like 5. I've never identified a shield with a +30 handle, and I farmed 2x characters 0-max asuran title on raptors.

<--- totally unlucky.

But I don't want to have to spend 10000000000 gold on tickets and stand afk for days just to get the title!

(i'd probably end up maxxing the lucky title if i tried, anyway... i'm that unlucky)

gw_poster

gw_poster

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

so cal

R/

cartography was a biiatch, skill capping tyria was a biiatch...but done with GWAMM

now grinding treasure hunter, which is helping unlucky/lucky, but unlucky more! at 6k+ chests and 350k unlucky - which should be done by about 8k chests or so. ID'ing the chest drops is helping, but I think I'll have to end up buying some unid golds toward the end to make up for all the ones I sold when I started c/r'ing

PvP titles are by far the hardest imo, just given the sheer amount of time necessary to play toward them (except for the ones obtained through gimmick/exploits)

nologic

nologic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sweden

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
I never liked the Skill Hunter title. Just thinking about capping in Tyria makes me shiver.
Agreed had to poop out a lot of money just to max it.

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

Cartographer.

None of my 3 GWAMMs have this shitty title....because apparently using Texmod to get cartographer is very difficult!

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

for me its treasure,lucky/unlucky,sweet-booze-party,and cart ones. yes i could use text mod for cart titles..but my computer hates it. xD so im stuck with scraping.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I strongly dislike the Luxon/Kurzick titles. Not because of the grind involved, but the whole lux/Kurz thing is annoying to me. Mainly it's the "Oh, you've got too much of the wrong kind of faction, get lost." crap from NPCs that I find ridiculous.

DokkyDok

DokkyDok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Interested in finding one.

Mo/

Friends don't let friends grind for Treasure Hunter & Wisdom.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by mage767 View Post
Cartographer.

None of my 3 GWAMMs have this shitty title....because apparently using Texmod to get cartographer is very difficult!
All four of mine have that title. First two did not use TexMod because of a new invention called choice. Basically, just because you can use/do something does not mean you have to use/do it.

Urcscumug

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2011

UNO

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chowmein69 View Post
i hate them all
Me too. OK, hate is probably the wrong word, it's more like I don't have any regard for them, one way or another.

I got Cartographer (non-maxed) because I simply like to explore and see everything. And I won't max it because having to scrape is a chore.

I won't even get titles that are within reach (only "minor" grinding). There's absolutely no meaning in most of them, unless it holds some personal meaning for each player, and for me they don't.

Maybe some day I'll suddenly see I have aquired Seeker of Wisdom and some other first tier titles. But I most likely won't display them.

Pretty much the only one I display is Cartographer because it represents something I enjoyed doing. And the titles that have effects, like the Norn track, because that's how they were meant to be used, it's sinergy with the game as you progress through it.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

I can't speak for hated title but for me, the only title I feel was worth something was cartographer, or at least tyrian catographer as I did it way back, before texmod or even any decent 100% maps. Sure it was a bit grindy scraping those edges but for a ranger it felt like an in-character title.

I'd probably say wisdom/treasure for worst as they are never ending.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

I hate every title that you can buy basically. Specifically things like the luck and drunkard style titles.

I don't hate the cartographer titles as such but I do hate the whole wall hugging crap and not being able to tell if an area has been cleared without photoshop or something, so I just didn't bother to finish them in the end.

And I also hate that you can have both the kurzick and luxon titles. That made factions fail from the start.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

Grumblee Grumblee Goo...
I hate all Titles and All of you
But seriously, Im not fond of seeing that Hero Battle Title and knowing I can not get anymore points towards it. I miss those hard fought out battles, of who would get the red side, Raising there sword screaming with all there might /RESIGN!!!!

Anaraky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2010

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Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin View Post
I got LMOTN, Guardian, Vanquisher/Cartographer, Survivor, Lightbringer, Asuran, Norn, and Vanguard while still not having enough money from drops to max 1 consumable title. So, the advice of "pick up everything" is helpful to player that basically wants to go through a campaign. I've done that. It's going to require a lot more farming to get the consumable titles.
How did you manage that? On my newest Warrior I have like five prestige armor sets and several "prestige" weapon sets while still saving or using almost everything I can have use for (Mats, Black/White dyes etc etc) and still have several hundred plats in the chest without any farming nor selling to players. And I haven't even finished LMotN, Tyrian Vanq/Guardian or the EotN rep based titles. You earn a lot by just playing the game, if you really yearn for some extra gold you can always do the Zaishen quests. An extra plat or two adds up.

OT: Old LDoA was horrifying. Other then that Tyrian skill hunter is pretty awful with the random spawns and mostly useless skills. Maxing Lucky/Unlucky isn't easy either.

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Titles I like: Those that provide an in game buff, even if they're a long go to finish, they do more than just work towards GWAMM:

That means
Lightbringer
Norn
Asura
Deldrimor
Ebon Vanguard
Wisdom (though I think the requirements are very steep)
Treasure Hunter (again, I think the requirements are very steep)
Lucky (again, requirements too steep, I understand it's account wide but, so are your lockpicks, it's not like you're getting a ton of lockpicks on each character). Most people grind this one doing nine rings while afk anyway, is that really what Anet wants? Just people spending hundreds of plat on tokens and going afk in nine rings? Anyway, still like the title just don't like the progression of it.
I also like account based titles, like luxon/kurzick (since it allows you to get skills on alts), and though I don't really pvp so I don't have these titles, the zaishen and hero titles because they give an emote.

I'm half and half on sunspear rank.. I like it since it boosts some skills and is a part of the story in nightfall, but I just wish zaishen quests involving sunspear promotion points gave a little more. The last rank between 7 and 8 is kind of a jump and you're only getting like 500 promotion points from a zmission, 750 for a zvanquish? That's more of a thing on the zaishen quests than the title itself though.

Titles I don't like:

Consumable titles (just because they're character based and not account, it makes me not want to use buff giving sweets on alts even though it's beneficial to, because I'm robbing my main character of sweet tooth points, actually, I could care less about drunkard and party animal, since it doesn't hurt me to hoarde all those items on 1 character.. just sweet tooth needs changed to account wide)
Skill hunter titles, again just because they're character based. I really don't want to get all the secondary profession elite skills I'll never use on the same character. The only reason to get primary attribute skills for secondary professions is for these stupid titles, and these titles do nothing for you except GWAMM progress. If it were account wide, you could just get the elites you were actually going to use. It's just a gold sink/time sink (or larger gold sink if you use tomes). Another suggestion I could make to improve it: Earning the title gets your character a 50% discount on signets of capture at skill trainers for campaigns you have the title in.

I think that's about it, I'm not too concerned either way with the pvp titles maybe they could add emotes to gladiator/codex.. not concerned with the protector/guardian, LDoA (since they made a way for you to do it aside from Death leveling, I've been working on a LDoA myself, too bad it's not account wide though), cartographer/vanquisher are all fine.

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir View Post
All character-based.
Perfect discouragement for people who like to play with multiple characters.
I hate these too, and for the same reason.

My favorite titles are the lucky/treasure hunter ones. I like how they have a tangible reward for working on the titles, I just wish the requirement weren't so steep. The steeper the requirement, the grindier a title becomes.

Xiaquin

Xiaquin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2010

[aRIN]

R/

Allegiance (as a PvE player). The fact that it's point scaled for career PvP play yet has PvE skills that scale as if it's a PvE title is annoying. Overall, I just don't like how Factions works, period, but the title is awful and promotes grind.

Second choice would be Lightbringer. First pass through Nightfall they give you so little and you can easily not have the skills for missions. Overall NF is just so bloody stingy with giving you points for work and too often the shrines give you bounties for things you're not as likely to encounter in your path. I'm so sick of carving through enemies without a bounty just to get to the right shrine. Don't know why they decided to leave it as-is when they fixed it in GWEN.

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

All of them, but because I want things for GW2 am forcing myself to max titles, before the HoM calculator I had maybe 6 titles max...

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaraky View Post
How did you manage that? On my newest Warrior I have like five prestige armor sets and several "prestige" weapon sets while still saving or using almost everything I can have use for (Mats, Black/White dyes etc etc) and still have several hundred plats in the chest without any farming nor selling to players. And I haven't even finished LMotN, Tyrian Vanq/Guardian or the EotN rep based titles. You earn a lot by just playing the game, if you really yearn for some extra gold you can always do the Zaishen quests. An extra plat or two adds up.

OT: Old LDoA was horrifying. Other then that Tyrian skill hunter is pretty awful with the random spawns and mostly useless skills. Maxing Lucky/Unlucky isn't easy either.
Oh, I have hundreds of plats. But, when you have to max 3 titles that require countless hours grinding or about 1000k plat each... hundreds of plats are... not worth it. I'm just going to have to raptor farm a load during Wintersday in July.

Anaraky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin View Post
Oh, I have hundreds of plats. But, when you have to max 3 titles that require countless hours grinding or about 1000k plat each... hundreds of plats are... not worth it. I'm just going to have to raptor farm a load during Wintersday in July.
At most Sweet Tooth / Drunkard will cost 2000k gold and I am convinced most people can get it to 1000k-1500k gold easily due to random drops and buying from players. Hundreds of plat, which you claim you have, is actually a significant portion of that. Once again, my Warrior as an example. His weapons and armours alone must have cost around 1000k gold and I could easily get a couple hundred more by selling random stuff from my storage. That is one title and there are a lot of titles you get from actually playing I haven't done on him yet.

But I digress, this isn't the place for this discussion. I'm sorry for the slight derail.

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

You only get the real big money though from trading with players. Merching, using material/rune/dye traders and just picking up dropped gold and quest reward gold really doesn't earn that much. So I wouldn't count that as "just playing the game" that's still spamming in kamadan for hours on end trading.

X-Plosiv

X-Plosiv

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[Pink]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arato View Post
You only get the real big money though from trading with players. Merching, using material/rune/dye traders and just picking up dropped gold and quest reward gold really doesn't earn that much. So I wouldn't count that as "just playing the game" that's still spamming in kamadan for hours on end trading.
Who lied you that?

If you VQ 1 area per day, or lets say 2 if you are doing title, after 1 month you can EASILY get 100k+.

Now combine that with people doing that for a long time, and getting lucky drops such as white/black dye, elite tomes etc.

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Plosiv View Post
Who lied you that?

If you VQ 1 area per day, or lets say 2 if you are doing title, after 1 month you can EASILY get 100k+.

Now combine that with people doing that for a long time, and getting lucky drops such as white/black dye, elite tomes etc.
white/black dye = trade to make most profit

elite tomes = trade to make money

It still boils down to standing around spamadan trading thanks to the godawful trading system in this game.

Would it kill Anet to make an in game auction system and remove the gold cap so that you didn't need to use substitute currency?

Anaraky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arato View Post
white/black dye = trade to make most profit

elite tomes = trade to make money

It still boils down to standing around spamadan trading thanks to the godawful trading system in this game.

Would it kill Anet to make an in game auction system and remove the gold cap so that you didn't need to use substitute currency?
I doubt he is arguing that you make more money by not trading, but you are seriously underestimating how much you can get by just vendoring stuff. I did that with my latest project and made around 1500-2000 plat while still having most of the Tyria/EotN titles left. At a certain point standing around spamming trade just isn't worth it unless you are focusing on powertrading, which is a whole beast in itself.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

You must be incredibly lucky. If I sold the stuff in my storage, I could probably afford the titles, or at least 2 of them. But, as been said, you gotta stand around hoping for just one person to walk out and be like "I WANT THAT!". Not to mention, that when I DO make the money, I still have to stand around spamming WTB conumables. Those titles suck. I wouldn't mind them so much if Anet released more PvE titles to get GWAMM that didn't involve me farming the same area over and over to make the money then spam and try to live through their horrible trading system. Heck, I'd even do more rep titles. I'm sure the Krytans would start loving me if I actually did their quests. I'm sure the Ascalonians would love me for going back in time and saving them from the Charr. I'm also sure the Shining Blade would love me for destroying the white mantel and saving the world. Oh, but... they don't. I have to go eat some Candy to become a God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals, despite the fact that I've done everything ingame besides make money and eat junk food.

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaraky View Post
I doubt he is arguing that you make more money by not trading, but you are seriously underestimating how much you can get by just vendoring stuff. I did that with my latest project and made around 1500-2000 plat while still having most of the Tyria/EotN titles left. At a certain point standing around spamming trade just isn't worth it unless you are focusing on powertrading, which is a whole beast in itself.
You can make some money, but it is slow in comparison, you don't even really notice it as it trickles in and trickles back out unless you literally don't spend any money as you go.

But trading is still the backbone to making real money, unfortunately trading is miserable and time consuming and results in you not playing the game but standing in a town. I've been trying to buy enough obsidian shards for my obsidian armor (to complete the HoM monument of resilience) for weeks now, just cruising from LA, to ToA, to Kamadan and checking what people are selling at a reasonable price, still haven't managed to buy many (and I don't know how to effectively solo farm them like I can ectos), I'm thinking in the end I'm going to have to either bite the bullet and literally stare at kamadan for hours on end, or get ripped off by the trader.

killmeshiniing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2009

Mary Jane Alchemists [kush]

W/A

I dislike the group pvp titles, as you must have a good start on the title to get in or you must join a huge guild. Also the gamer title, since you have to choose to either get lucky/unlucky points or participate in the arenas.

StormX

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

All pve titles because they need to be maxed before you can display them in HoM. Tops of the list would be cartographer because I hate pve, have no sense of direction and get lost all the time. (maguuma jungle has the shittiest maps ever) I may have 9k hours under my belt but i dont intend to ever get gwamm. gaming shouldnt feel like work which i dont enjoy.

X-Plosiv

X-Plosiv

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[Pink]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arato View Post
white/black dye = trade to make most profit

elite tomes = trade to make money

It still boils down to standing around spamadan trading thanks to the godawful trading system in this game.

Would it kill Anet to make an in game auction system and remove the gold cap so that you didn't need to use substitute currency?
I wanted to reply, but then

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaraky View Post
I doubt he is arguing that you make more money by not trading, but you are seriously underestimating how much you can get by just vendoring stuff. I did that with my latest project and made around 1500-2000 plat while still having most of the Tyria/EotN titles left.
tadam!

...anyway,

selling black dyes and elite tomes ...to sell it you need to be max 10 minutes in Kamadan.

I dont have nothing against selling item for 1k below others to sell it faster, because in that time while they wait, ill already get another 1k by playing the game

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arato View Post
But trading is still the backbone to making real money, unfortunately trading is miserable and time consuming and results in you not playing the game but standing in a town. I've been trying to buy enough obsidian shards for my obsidian armor (to complete the HoM monument of resilience) for weeks now, just cruising from LA, to ToA, to Kamadan and checking what people are selling at a reasonable price, still haven't managed to buy many (and I don't know how to effectively solo farm them like I can ectos), I'm thinking in the end I'm going to have to either bite the bullet and literally stare at kamadan for hours on end, or get ripped off by the trader.
Dont get it. No offense, but at reasonable price (what is that today 3.1-3.2 ? last ive seen) you can buy atleast a stack per day. honestly.

Urcscumug

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2011

UNO

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormX View Post
All pve titles because they need to be maxed before you can display them in HoM.
Well not "all", technically. You get the Hero titles for example just by doing the final mission of each campaign. And I don't know if I'd call the Protector titles "maxing", you get to do stuff that you haven't done only once (the bonuses). It's true though that the Factions master's rewards, having to beat the time, can feel more grindy than the others.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

Really? I beat most Cantha missions in about 10 minutes. Thanks to the 7 hero update...

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Plosiv View Post
I wanted to reply, but then



tadam!

...anyway,

selling black dyes and elite tomes ...to sell it you need to be max 10 minutes in Kamadan.

I dont have nothing against selling item for 1k below others to sell it faster, because in that time while they wait, ill already get another 1k by playing the game



Dont get it. No offense, but at reasonable price (what is that today 3.1-3.2 ? last ive seen) you can buy atleast a stack per day. honestly.
Rarely see anyone selling them at all. I see people sell ectos, but not shards. I see plenty of people wanting to buy them and they're already advertising, so why bother standing in the same town as they're already trying to advertise wtb?

Merre

Merre

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

I live at Eternal Grove.

The Acid Snakes (TAS)

Mo/

My least favourite title to get for GWAMM was Cartographer. I had been sitting at maxxed 25 titles for the longest time but couldn't suck it up and just finish cartographer.

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

I like max titles. I hate those that aren't.
Good thing is I start liking titles over time.