Official Support Forum

bsoltan

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

I couldn't see a thread about this:

http://forum.guildwars.com/

An official Guild Wars forum for technical support with the game.

Players are still advised to contact NCSoft support as a first port of call but this allows Devs and Players to discuss support queries and solutions etc.

Maybe a test for GW2 or making the jump from the wiki to forums to deal with support information? Or just somewhere to QQ if your account gets hacked. :P

edit: Is it working? It was at the weekend and I can't check properly at the moment. Apologies if this is a massive fail.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Apparently we can register but it requires your account E-mail, account password and character name.

I'm not brave enough.

Edit: We've already got posts in the bug forum which have been replied to with "we know but we can't fix it." I predict this will be a common occurence.

Kc Quipor Ultra

Kc Quipor Ultra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

Belgium

TRL

E/Me

0.o since when is this ?

Warbog The Slayer

Warbog The Slayer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

W/P

it says that is secure ....but hell no i wont use it if u need ur acc information and pass

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc Quipor Ultra View Post
0.o since when is this ?
It was supposed to be officially announced later this week...It was soft-launched last week for some gww users...

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

The fact that you have to give them your exact log-in information makes me not want to use it, even if it is official.

Also, I see this becoming a "MY ACCOUNT WAS WRONGLY BANNED!" cesspool within a few weeks. The idea is good, but the reality of what will happen is inevitable.

Thock

Thock

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Achieving Deficiency [aD]

I'm calling scam on this until told otherwise officially. Companies never ask for your official log in information. It also seems doubtful that this would be made available to the public before any announcement is made.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I don't trust it at all. I can't see why A-Net would want or need your account info - especially your Password. Plus, I didn't see a link to it on the Support section of the official Guild Wars web site.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

It's neat that ANet is offering more ways for players to communicate with them, starting out small now with just a support section for a forum and potentially moving to a broader sort of forum in the future.

For it to require my account info though is a little bit concerning. I'll likely hold off on doing anything with that site until I have a really pressing issue with my account.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

Heeeeeeeeeeeell no. No way I am giving my account info to anyone. The past 10 years MMO companies have said we will never ask for your account info and those words have never steered me wrong.

ddemirev

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

BGgh

Me/E

http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq/forums.php

I think it's pretty official.

tcratty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

6 feet under

forever angels

E/

lol anet has always said not to give you account info to anyone and now they ask for it dont tell anyone your account info take it to your grave with you unless you want to be hacked

Rawling

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Me/E

If you're unwilling to give ANet your account information, how do you play Guild Wars?

Although admittedly I wouldn't have expected them to ask for a character name for the forum login. That's a bit of "extra" information to keep back for the game login.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

The total lack of warnings from ANet make me doubt it's not legit.
And isn't requiring account information fairly standard for official forums of this kind?

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

While I mostly agree with this, I confess I was amused by:

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

so anet is putting it's big boy pants on....

once this is proven it's not another aion forums-ish account info harvesting paradise i may join.

as of right now i see no reason to.

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

The forum only asks for your email password and char name on login. After that you will register for forums with a username and an email. You will still use your game account information to login. This way the forums does not contain any information about your game account email, game password or character name. And it only has a reference to your game account.

Why is that good? Well IF the forum gets hacked, the hackers gets nothing just a list of emails and forum usernames. You are not forced to use your game email on the forums. Your are not forced to use your character name as your username and they can make sure you have a guild wars account.

IF the whole database with all game accounts is "hackable" through this forum I don't think not making a forum account would make you less vulnerable.

Thot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

P/

So if you loose your game account (got hacked for example) you can't login to the support forum ? It's not very smart...

Sharkinu

Sharkinu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Romania

Smells Like Bear Spirit [Norn]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thot View Post
So if you loose your game account (got hacked for example) you can't login to the support forum ? It's not very smart...
This kind of stuff usually requires some extra info from your side(a CD key or last 4 digits from a credit card you used on your account) to prove you're the owner. Revealing this kind of stuff on a forum everyone could read is not very smart either.

http://guildwars.com/support/ will be still up.

Ximvotn

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2011

Quote:
Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.
Whois Server: whois.dotster.com
Referral URL: http://www.dotster.com
Status: clientDeleteProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited

Expiration Date: 2011-08-14
Creation Date: 2000-08-14
Last Update Date: 2010-09-03

Name Servers:
nceudns01.ncwest.com
ncusdns01.ncwest.com
ncusdns02.ncwest.com
The DNS servers look official, it is a sub-category of Guild Wars [DOT] com so I think it is trustworthy. The account information is concerning. I logged in on one of my alternate accounts to see what happens, going to wait for more feedback to use my main.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

How to Get Help with Your Account

For the fastest possible service regarding issues that involve your game or NCsoft Master Account, consider providing as much information as possible from this list:

•Your name
•Your game account name(s)
•Your address
•Your telephone number
•Your birth date
•Your access keys (a scan of the key would be super helpful)
•The last four digits of the credit card(s) that you used for NCsoft Store or Guild Wars In-Game Store purchases

I call for a lock of this thread and move it unless we get an official word otherwise we will be addressing my account got hacked and I can not get it back ever since they have your access keys. No need for a password when you can barrage support and give them all the info they need to reset your account

Why would you need a scanned access key


https://forum.guildwars.com/

Why is the forum portion first and not guildwars???? where is the link to it from the official guildwars site?

Below are examples of good ones
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/i...362/spacer.gif

http://www.mycrysis.com/forums/

See the difference the website address first then the move to the forum


You can have my act key here it is 456ewefwefFUASSHOLE1561

Rawling

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer View Post
https://forum.guildwars.com/

Why is the forum portion first and not guildwars????
It's called a subdomain.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Well being a support-only form, there's no need to enter there if you don't have some kind of technical problem.

I think it would be a good idea if fansites redirected their soon to be outdated support sections there.

Bebbo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Wales

Desolation Gods [DG]/Poop Knights [zzz]

A/E

Its about time some official forum for Guild Wars was made. Found Blizzards WoW forum very handy in regards to support.

Thot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharkinu View Post
This kind of stuff usually requires some extra info from your side(a CD key or last 4 digits from a credit card you used on your account) to prove you're the owner. Revealing this kind of stuff on a forum everyone could read is not very smart either.

http://guildwars.com/support/ will be still up.
I don't think neither anyone will reveal this kind of stuff on any forum even if only a hundred of thousands GW players can access to it.

But if you asked me yesterday if Anet would ever ask account information to log on his forum, i had say no, so i might be wrong here too....

Ghost Dog

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

The reason this was made, guild wars guru.

gz

Rawling

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Me/E

It's a bit weird they're asking for details when there's already a ticket system for that...

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

The forum exists because their support is handled by NCSoft and Anet knows they are idiots. This is a way for them to provide a little more help given that NCSoft does not want Anet paying their own support positions.

Leohan

Leohan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

R/

6 years until now... testing the waters for a GW2 forum I see...lol. I do hope this works out, there are already some people pointing out bugs and flaws about the forum. So beta testing is going well I guess. Good Luck to all those who sign up.

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

no response from any voice of anet about this and no announcement anywhere?

sigh.

bsoltan

bsoltan

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

[SoF]

https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars/p...26345017447991

Quote:
Originally Posted by Facebook
Need game account help? The Guild Wars Support Forums are a new online resource for players who have technical issues, want to submit a bug report, or have problems with their game account. Players will use their Guild Wars game account to register on these forums, which are currently only available in English. Keep in mind that these forums are for support-related issues only. https://forum.guildwars.com/forum/ ~RB
There you go.

ranger rothers

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

I can see all hell breaking out as countless fake "support" sites pop up to farm login details.

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Are people realy dumb enough to give there account details? For a forum 0.o

Aljasha

Aljasha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die View Post
Are people realy dumb enough to give there account details? For a forum 0.o
Same here, even when they tell us not to use the same login credentials for any two accounts. Smells fishy.

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsoltan View Post

thank you

however i hope further important announcement won't be made using only facebook as a medium.

BrokenSymmetry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die View Post
Are people realy dumb enough to give there account details? For a forum 0.o
If you go to https://forum.guildwars.com, you can check the security certificate of the website, and see that the certificate was released on May 3, 2011, to NCSoft in Austin, Texas.

Also, as said before, using your game credentials for the forum has the advantage that you do not have to store any credentials separately in the forum. Most forum databases are not very secure. In my opinion, the current solution is the safer one (and that's why Blizzard and Turbine also need your game credentials for their forums).

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry View Post
If you go to https://forum.guildwars.com, you can check the security certificate of the website, and see that the certificate was released on May 3, 2011, to NCSoft in Austin, Texas.

Also, as said before, using your game credentials for the forum has the advantage that you do not have to store any credentials separately in the forum. Most forum databases are not very secure. In my opinion, the current solution is the safer one (and that's why Blizzard and Turbine also need your game credentials for their forums).
I hardly remember it but wasn't there a problem with NCSoft master accounts before? And what if you have to store data in a forum database. Aslong as there not the same as your account then the dmg is almost nihil. Let alone the lack of interest in data that is not linked to the users account.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die View Post
I hardly remember it but wasn't there a problem with NCSoft master accounts before? And what if you have to store data in a forum database. Aslong as there not the same as your account then the dmg is almost nihil. Let alone the lack of interest in data that is not linked to the users account.
The NCSoft Master Accounts are run by...NCSoft (hence the name). This is not. There's no overlap whatsoever.

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

We completed a soft launch of the Support Forums ahead of posting broader messaging for technical and staffing reasons. We spoke with our players in the official wiki community, communicated with admins of our larger fansites (including this one) that administer tech and support sub-forums, and the Facebook community.

The official wiki had a game account support page on which customer support staff posted and helped players with account issues. The Guild Wars Support Forum serves this purpose in a much more user-friendly way. As this was the venue which would most directly be affected in terms of support answering questions, we communicated the soft launch of the Support Forums with the official wiki community.

We also contacted admins of fansites that have tech support sub-forums about the soft launch of the Guild Wars Support Forums, as those fansite sub-forums get a ton of questions which need to be directed to Customer Support (i.e. "I forgot my password"). At fansite admins' discretion, they updated their sticky pages and let their mods know about this new resource.

The Guild Wars fan page on Facebook was directed to the Support Forums because Facebook fans tend to be less knowledgeable about how to contact Customer Support, and thus, we felt it would be helpful for them to know about the soft launch of the Guild Wars Support Forums as well.

We also decided to soft launch the Support Forums so that teams working on it on our end could continue addressing less critical forum bugs ahead of the broader messaging, and so that the teams could ramp up to forum activity.

As others have pointed out, other industry-leading games companies also ask their players to login to their forums with their game account details. This is not unusual. We have a lot of knowledgeable people who are experienced in security issues working on these forums, and we take data security very seriously.

Hope that clarifies things for you all.

Mokeiro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Will you store passwords and credit card data in plain text like SONY?