New WoC Stuff

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

W/P

Have a new weapon, gift, mini etc from Winds Of Change? Post here w/ screenshots please. So far..

Misc.
Ministerial Commendations

Drake Eleric

Drake Eleric

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Online

Shadow Pact Vanguard (Pact)

E/

It's not an item, but I found a boss named Ming the Judgment, who is a smiting monk Am Feh boss with Ray of Judgment. I'd assume it's because they eliminate the Afflicted, so they need bosses with their elites?

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

W/P

@Drake Eleric, wait until you meet the Monsterous Afflicted Warrior :P

Drake Eleric

Drake Eleric

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Online

Shadow Pact Vanguard (Pact)

E/

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Originally Posted by shadeblade47 View Post
@Drake Eleric, wait until you meet the Monsterous Afflicted Warrior :P
Just did. It was a wild ride.

thunder boy

thunder boy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

I dont understand the reasoning behind having the weapons as purple items and how they are skins that were already out

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

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Originally Posted by thunder boy View Post
I dont understand the reasoning behind having the weapons as purple items and how they are skins that were already out
They are purple so as not to piss of the classic item collectors who have perfect gold versions (it's awesome how ArenaNet constantly caters to a minority of the community who enjoy a niche created by inferior game design). They are already out but items in Factions don't drop with inscriptions because inscriptions were introduced with Nightfall and ArenaNet made the piss poor decision to leave Prophecies and Factions items back in the stone age (for the above reason).

Most of the items were already available but not as inscribable items. The daggers are actually two swords (something they have been doing since WiK and the Canthan Blade) and the focus is a single dagger with the wand being a previous offhand. Recycled skins to add a little more reward for earlier content while saving the new skins for the later chapters I'm guessing (Imperial Weapons).

Venganza

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2011

Fire

Purple and recycled skins, how disappointing. I can only hope there is something more to be done with the Commendations further down the update path.

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venganza View Post
Purple and recycled skins, how disappointing. I can only hope there is something more to be done with the Commendations further down the update path.
I heard from somewhere that they'll be unleashing a new imperial (?) weapon set later.

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugh View Post
I heard from somewhere that they'll be unleashing a new imperial (?) weapon set later.
From the Winds of Change FAQ:

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Q: Are there any special titles or rewards associated with Winds of Change?

A: While there are not any special titles tied to the new Winds of Change content, players will be able to acquire weapons from two new sets, including the never before seen Imperial weapons.
http://www.guildwars.com/windsofchange/faq.html

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I can't believe how many people are upset the weapons are purple. It doesn't make them any less useful.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake Eleric View Post
It's not an item, but I found a boss named Ming the Judgment, who is a smiting monk Am Feh boss with Ray of Judgment. I'd assume it's because they eliminate the Afflicted, so they need bosses with their elites?
I found En Fa the Awakened in The Undercity. It's an Am Fah boss with Order of Apostacy.

AndroBubbles

AndroBubbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2009

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
I can't believe how many people are upset the weapons are purple. It doesn't make them any less useful.
What was the reason for making them purple though?

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

To ensure the high end weapon market does not have a QQ-fest. Honestly, I find this to be a pretty good balance that caters to both crowds more or less. I applaud ANet for that decision.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

its woc? woot, lets make some money!

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/



Daggers of Purity

Cannot be dyed
Cannot be added to HoM(vOv meh)

Arato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venganza View Post
Purple and recycled skins, how disappointing. I can only hope there is something more to be done with the Commendations further down the update path.
You know the color of the text on an incribible traded/crafted weapon doesn't really matter right?

So if you like the skins, the purple text means nothing. I could see someone going for a fan wand with a paper fan offhand, dual wielding fans.. or the jitte daggers. Also, platinum staff isn't bad.. but me I'm saving my commendations for the next set of weapons coming later.

Do remember this is only phase 1 of winds of change, it ends just when things start getting interesting.

Dark Interception

Dark Interception

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
I can't believe how many people are upset the weapons are purple. It doesn't make them any less useful.
It makes them ugly and less desirable. I want my weapons to be shiny gold goddamnit.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Why is everyone so upset at the weapons being purple? There are requirements that must be met to be a gold weapon, perhaps the weapons in question do not meet those requirements.
Either way, a useful weapon is a useful weapon reguardless of the color of the text.

Edit: check out wiki:http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gold_weapon

Essence Snow

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

Tbh I was dissapointed as well in the new weaps (the ones so far) for the same reasons as most.....all of the chat in game that I heard was of the same nature. If they made them in such to:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horus Moonlight View Post
To ensure the high end weapon market does not have a QQ-fest.
Then imo they made a poor decision. The QQ fest from the masses is 10 fold that of the possible high end weap market one.

The only glimmer of positive I have seen is that ppl seem to like the idea of dual weilding fans (imo would be nicer as daggers with rit dagger animations but oh well)(or frozen, forgotten, tattered, pronged with glitches fixed.....wishful thinking)

Artaban

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

[TWWT]



possible spoiler of imperial weapons?

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
Tbh I was dissapointed as well in the new weaps (the ones so far) for the same reasons as most.....all of the chat in game that I heard was of the same nature. If they made them in such to:

Then imo they made a poor decision. The QQ fest from the masses is 10 fold that of the possible high end weap market one.
To be fair, purple always felt like it was pointless color. As drop, it was only good for potential +5 armor upgrades, pointless merch food otherwise.

Also, crafter stuff being either blue or gold, but not inbetween so this could is neat change to denote expected rarity.

I am all for designating "middle-end" stuff with purple color.

In fact, I would humbly suggest that every collector and crafter weapon that is max would be made purple, with only hom-able items staying gold.

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow View Post
The only glimmer of positive I have seen is that ppl seem to like the idea of dual weilding fans (imo would be nicer as daggers with rit dagger animations but oh well)(or frozen, forgotten, tattered, pronged with glitches fixed.....wishful thinking)
I would definitelly LOVE to see fan "daggers".

And damnit, my mesmer and ritualist *will* get some wand-fans while along with matching fan offhands.

jensyea

jensyea

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Underworld

Mo/

I use purple items all the time, idgas about the color of the text. Only thing that matters is the stats and the looks.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
I would definitelly LOVE to see fan "daggers".
Me too. Reminds me of Mortal Kombat. <3

Edit: Just googled it and found out it was Kitana who wielded the fans.

Jan Breydel

Jan Breydel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Musscles From Brussels

Mo/R

imo they did not make the items purple to prevent qq'ing from high end traders.
Why I think so? because none of the items would've caused that being gold. The jitte skin is now as daggers and not sword, so no effect on the uninscr jitte at all. Gold inscr plat staves already exist and arent worth anything so why would a new source of gold inscr plat staves bother the prices of the uninscr ones. And finally the paper fans are wands and not offhands, so no problem either.

If you ask me Anet just made em purple to make clear these weapons are not for HoM. So the whining about 'anet protecting a minority of high end traders' is bullshit.

damkel

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan Breydel View Post
..If you ask me Anet just made em purple to make clear these weapons are not for HoM...
That makes sense.

Perhaps we'll see weapons at the very end of WoC Part III that are specifically designed for the HoM.

hahahi20

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2010

The Netherlands

Dutch Flaweless [DL]

D/

I found some am fah elementalists in pogmai valley.
am fah didn't have elementalist before right?
they have savannah heath builds

nologic

nologic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sweden

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by damkel View Post
That makes sense.

Perhaps we'll see weapons at the very end of WoC Part III that are specifically designed for the HoM.
God I hope it isn't designed for HoM enough is enough..

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Or it gives you more oppetunities for items for the HoM. Then you dont have to repeat content on other characters to be fill it up. Screw getting another oppressor weapon when you can tget the ministry one by just playing the game (though i do have most of the weapons and no one is forcing me to get them).

Bright Star Shine

Bright Star Shine

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2009

Belgium

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
They are purple so as not to piss of the classic item collectors who have perfect gold versions (it's awesome how ArenaNet constantly caters to a minority of the community who enjoy a niche created by inferior game design). They are already out but items in Factions don't drop with inscriptions because inscriptions were introduced with Nightfall and ArenaNet made the piss poor decision to leave Prophecies and Factions items back in the stone age (for the above reason).

Most of the items were already available but not as inscribable items. The daggers are actually two swords (something they have been doing since WiK and the Canthan Blade) and the focus is a single dagger with the wand being a previous offhand. Recycled skins to add a little more reward for earlier content while saving the new skins for the later chapters I'm guessing (Imperial Weapons).
Guardian of The Hunt
Gothic Axe
Gothic Dual Axe
Celestial Sword
Celestial Axe
Celestial Shield
Celestial Hammer
Every Zodiac Weapon
Every Core Skin
Magma's Shield
Summit Warlord
Tribal Axe
Dwarven Axe
Serpent Axe
....

Do I have to continue?

QQ more please. There are plenty of nice-skinned weapons that have been bumm raped by inscriptions. You people keep bitching about high-end items whilst there are plenty of available nice skins you can do whatever you want with with your inscriptions, but nooo, you always want MORE! I want that purdy axe as well mommy!!! WHEEEIII..

Ffs..

Shakkara

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Indeed, f*** those inscriptions, I want the chance to get weird-modded stuff.

Speaking of which, where are the R7's?

Elnino

Elnino

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

In a house

Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
Guardian of The Hunt
Gothic Axe
Gothic Dual Axe
Celestial Sword
Celestial Axe
Celestial Shield
Celestial Hammer
Every Zodiac Weapon
Every Core Skin
Magma's Shield
Summit Warlord
Tribal Axe
Dwarven Axe
Serpent Axe
....

Do I have to continue?

QQ more please. There are plenty of nice-skinned weapons that have been bumm raped by inscriptions. You people keep bitching about high-end items whilst there are plenty of available nice skins you can do whatever you want with with your inscriptions, but nooo, you always want MORE! I want that purdy axe as well mommy!!! WHEEEIII..

Ffs..
There's still a market for uninscribable versions of those weapons, no?

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by nologic View Post
God I hope it isn't designed for HoM enough is enough..
didnt they say when they let oppresor into hom they wouldnt allow anymore after that?

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

No minipets this time?

Lord Dagon

Lord Dagon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2009

Inside the Oblivion Gate

The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE]

E/Me

now the hard part... getting a good moded paper fan... this challenge seems to be defeating me ._.

tummlykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine View Post
Guardian of The Hunt
Gothic Axe
Gothic Dual Axe
Celestial Sword
Celestial Axe
Celestial Shield
Celestial Hammer
Every Zodiac Weapon
Every Core Skin
Magma's Shield
Summit Warlord
Tribal Axe
Dwarven Axe
Serpent Axe
....

Do I have to continue?

QQ more please. There are plenty of nice-skinned weapons that have been bumm raped by inscriptions. You people keep bitching about high-end items whilst there are plenty of available nice skins you can do whatever you want with with your inscriptions, but nooo, you always want MORE! I want that purdy axe as well mommy!!! WHEEEIII..

Ffs..
I don't understand your point? Are you saying inscribable versions of those skins exist? I don't think anyone was claiming that no previously Factions/Prophecies exclusive weapon was available with an inscription. The point people are making is that Factions and Prophecies drops are almost unanimously garbage and weapon skins from those campaigns are notoriously difficult to obtain by playing the game, especially when they don't drop from the elite chest or the zaishen chest.

Inscriptions are an infinitely better example of strictly superior game design: even those blue weapons you get can be used with max stats making more of your weapon drops viable choices for equipment. Almost everything that drops in Prophecies and Factions is striclty inferior than collector weapons, preventing players from accessing so many skins in the game.

It makes no sense to create a wide variety of weapons and skins but create a system which prevent people from accessing the vast majority of them with good stats. This is why green weapons were so popular prior to Nightfall - because other weapons were too difficult and rare to obtain with good stats on them.

Do I think the vast majority of the weapons in the game should be available to the majority of players the way Nightfall and EotN weapons are? Of course I do. The loot system in Guild Wars was terrible prior to Nightfall (look at all the garbage caster gear you find). The variety of skins used by players was miniscule compared to the number of skins available in the game.

Inscriptions are better game design for the vast majority of people. The old school system was better for people who play for hours on end grinding every last corner of the game or repetitively farming the same things over and over again looking for something to fill their time. I'd far rather cater to people playing the game and wanting to access a certain skin rather than people simply filling their inventories with rare crap because they have nothing else to do.

The inscribable purple weapons are a nice addition to Factions.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
I would definitelly LOVE to see fan "daggers".

And damnit, my mesmer and ritualist *will* get some wand-fans while along with matching fan offhands.
Oh man, so much this. I love fans - I collect them in real life, and I love games where they are used as weapons (whenever I play AC:Brotherhood online, I'm the Courtesan). Paper fan is one of my favorite offhands in GW.

So I was very happy to see fan-wands added (who gives an eff if they're purple, they work just as well as golds), and I'll be getting them for at least my Mesmer and Ritualist. As well as tracking down fan off-hands for them. And I really, really wish they had added dual-fans as daggers because damnit that would be awesome.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by tummlykins View Post
Inscriptions are better game design for the vast majority of people. The old school system was better for people who play for hours on end grinding every last corner of the game or repetitively farming the same things over and over again looking for something to fill their time.
Assuming you did get a rare drop while out 'playing the game' you could really cash in but since you did bring up greens...what thrill is there now when they routinely sell 5k or less? In the good old days a little bit of luck in an explorable could net you a lot of cash. Sorrow's Furnace was almost entirely based on this notion with groups forming specifically for that purpose and now look at it. It is a good thing to have rare items to work towards as goals in a game.

As for skin rarity on this trader, well...that part is a bit silly. What skins he has available would never be confused for their non-inscribable counterparts. Nevermind the naming conventions I'm talking strictly in function...dual Jittes don't exist, or fan wands, or dagger focii. Nothing would have really been harmed here in making these gold but at least they attempted to tread lightly on a very robust trading market.

PurpleFission

PurpleFission

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2010

Unda da Sea

Club of a Thousand Pandas[LOD???]

E/Mo

The imperial weapons will probably be gold and most likely require more commendations, making them 'better' than the purple purity weapons. This is my speculation anyways as to why they are purple. But, does the colour of the text really mean that much?

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

As someone with 50/50 HoM, I don't care at all if Imperial weapons can be added. However, I can see the line of logic that Tormented is from Nightfall, Destroyer from Eye of the North, Oppressor from Tyria, so Cantha should get some love.

Like I said, not a darn bit of difference to me.

shadeblade47

shadeblade47

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2009

NH, USA

Eternally Hollow [EmpT]

W/P

Daggers that deal blunt damage? :O Watch out PvP monks, choose your shield carefully.