Unidentified Golds Calculator

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

This program simply tells you how much you will make from your unidentified golds if you sell them to people in kamadan who are buying them.
The program is designed so that you can quickly come up with a total for example you can select a type of bag that you might full and it will auto put the number of golds in that bag into the program.
This is one of my first programs and yes it is simple but i figured someone could use it cause in my opinion i hate counting my unidentified golds and figuring out how much to sell them for.

P.S. I tried uploading it to the forums but the file size was a little big so i uploaded it to mediafire instead hope you enjoy it!


NEWLY UPDATED V3.0
UPDATED 2/23/2011

So i recently began working on this project again and i must say some HUGE improvements were made i would still love to hear everyone's input on how i can improve the application I have fixed tons of stuff and it OPENS!!!!! in previous versions i had some settings wrong which resulted in no one being able to open the application enjoy!
DOWNLOAD LINK: http://www.mediafire.com/?hc61b48svxt2lll

Also i would love to improve the program to be best of my ability so don't hesitate to post a comment or send me a pm on things that you think i should change.

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

W/

hovering my mouse over my invent,counting 1..2...3...4...5....6 etc then x700(or c/v)
vs a program that can do it for me...
Guild Wars just became a bit more comfy THANK YOU!

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

haha np thats the problem i ran into was the counting and then wondering if i forgot to account some so this program makes it so much easy and thanks!

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Regular Bag: 10 slots
Small Bag: 5 slots
Storage Pane: 20 slots

Let's say I fill all my bags but keep the largest (20 slot one) for weapons and armor and have a storage pane full of unids. That's 45 items right there off the bat. Installing and typing all that stuff into a program when basic math is like breathing seems a bit redundant. Also, Calculator is one button press away.

Kudos for the effort but a more useful program would be better.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

sorry i just started learning Visual Basic and its pretty much the first program i completed i will add the storage pane option and add it into the program for ya hope you still enjoyed it though and i will get working on adding that option asap.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ok, some criticisms.

1) It's not particularly useful. It'd be quicker to just count the unid's than open the program, set everything up, etc.
2) It works fine, though some usability changes would be much appreciated.
  • If Bag is ticked, Extended Bag should be made untickable (and vice versa). They're mutually exclusive options, so you shouldn't allow the user to select both. Likewise with the equipment packs.
  • The three text boxes on the right should be labels. The user is not meant to edit them so don't allow them to.
  • The little thing at the bottom with the + and - buttons is confusing. I had to do a bit of fiddling to figure out what it was. Add a label to describe what it's for. Putting the whole lot of options in a group box should assist also.
  • The aforementioned little thing shouldn't allow you to go negative. A reset button would be nice... actually, it'd be better to get rid of the + and - buttons, and just have the text box to represent any miscellaneous unid's. It kind of screws with your total unid box but it's a better overall solution.
  • Error handling... try clicking on the + or - buttons when the box is empty. A simple if statement will fix this.

Anyway, have fun. You should learn some things from the above. If you need help/tips/advice PM me, though I haven't used VB in a while so I won't be 100% on some things.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Thank you Marty, i love the criticism as long as its not your program sucks blah blah blah but you actually told me what i should change and edit tyvm i will work on getting those problems fixed and release a new one to see what you think thanks everyone i am currently working on v 2.0

Retro8bitje

Retro8bitje

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Oss, the Netherlands

[AdHd]

W/

not bad program but it can use some improvements like marty said.

The interface needs an upgrade to be honest, people tend to use a good looking program more.

Also make an option for adjustable prices. Not everyone wants to sell at 500 ea or 714 ea.

The textbox you use for the stand alone unids can also contain letters or special characters. This needs a fix.

A suggestion for the lay-out for the Equipment bags group them an make a radio button group of it. ^^

You can ofc still keep the other text boxes but make them so the user can't change the value in it.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Just posted Version 2.0 hope you guys enjoy the new major improvements and let me know if you encounter any errors or an idea of what i should add!

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Downloaded v2.1, it doesn't work for me. I try to open it but it says 'WindowsApplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience'. v2.0 does not run either.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

hmm i tryed on several computers and most of them worked and i figured out your problem you need to download and install .net framework from microsoft assuming you are using windows OS once you have installed it make sure to do windows update until their are no more updates for .net framework and then it should run smoothly

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

So if that's the case, why did v1 work?

*10 mins later* I just downloaded and installed the framework and it still doesn't work.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

hmm im not completely sure try right clicking and running as admin? Im not sure about the software issue that is being caused on your pc :S im new to program so i have no idea..

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Running as admin isn't an issue for me... that's a Windows 7 thing as far as I know. It still doesn't explain why v1 worked and the new ones don't either.

EDIT: Found this on Google. Seems like it could fix the problem.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

U want me to upload the setup file for ya? I can also try rebuilding it.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

If you're using Visual Studio try doing what it says in that thread: Build -> Publish. Not sure what files are meant to come out but it says you'll need to upload them all.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

k ill upload everytning the build --> Publish thing puts it into a setup file so you have to install it.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Also try those 2 new links i added

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hmm, neither of those work for me. The 'standalone' version gives me the same problem as before, and the 'setup' version gives me this. This is turning out to be much more effort than it's worth. Anyway, what you can do if you want me to further critique your program is to just send me the source code and a screenshot of the interface. I won't be able to run it but I will be able to suggest improvements or things for you to test.

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If anyone can get version 2 working, please post.

rcvf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Hello.
I have tried your application, and it doesn't work for me either.
The first version worked ok, but all the other versions did not.
By the way, my OS is Windows 7 x64, maybe this helps.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

I went ahead and posted everything pelase tell of things i can change or things that you dont like in the new 2.0 version.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Hope you guys enjoy!

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Time for more nitpicking . My comments:
  • The background image is cool but to be honest, it's a bit annoying too. It clashes with the font colour just enough to be distracting. As always with design, others may disagree. Your call.
  • Where did the minimise/maximise/close buttons go? Disabling maximise is fine if you don't want the user to change the dimensions, but when I was finished with my first look I expected to be able to close it via the red X. I see you've got a close button but don't break conventions if you don't have to. It adds nothing and is vaguely annoying. Imagine if every program had it's own close button in whatever place the dev felt like dumping it. You'd hate having to look for the button each time.
  • Great job on the Bag/Extended Bag options. Now do the same thing for the equipment packs. They both enforce mutual exclusivity but the bag ones allow for a complete deselection. Once you click an equipment pack you can't get rid of them.
  • From a structure/balance/alignment pov, I'd move the images to the left side.
  • Regarding the storage pane bit, it seems overly complex.
    • First thing I'd do is make the text box a label. You're not meant to edit it (and you've disallowed editing it) but it still looks editable, and my first instinct was to type in the number of full panels I had, which didn't work.
    • Second thing, the add and subtract buttons seem a little unnecessary too. I'd reword 'Have a storage pane full? Number of Panes added:' to 'Number of full storage panes:', then either add an editable text box that updates the total unidentified items automatically (upon edit) or go back to smaller + and - buttons after a label. That should be sufficiently clear.
  • Adding a custom amount: a) I'd switch the positions of the text box and button (you wouldn't click the button before entering a value) and b) have a way to remove an amount too. The only way to do that right now is by hitting clear, which wipes the rest of your options. Annoying for typo prone people. Like the above section, I'd say the best option is to add a text box that updates the total unidentified items whenever you change the text in it. Saves having more buttons than you need.
  • I'd nitpick on the positioning/alignment/formatting on the right side, but it's serves it's purpose. Perhaps consider revising later.
  • BUG: The labels for the price display are the wrong way around. 500g each shows the 714g each price and vice versa.
  • BUG: The custom price button doesn't seem to be functional at all. I click it and get a pop up box (which only accepts numerical characters), but when I click accept there seems to be no change whatsoever. Have you lost a label somewhere?
  • I'd move the clear button further out of the way. Going for 'Calculate' and hitting 'Clear' would suck.

Well then, that was certainly much more formidable than I thought it would be. Please note that I'm pointing these things out for your benefit. Some things are minor nitpicks. Some things you may disagree with. Such is design; we all have differing views, expectations, and opinions. By all means discuss - let me know your thoughts.

darkworld260

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

...................... love your feedback i think i might of accidentally deleted the custom price label.... woops....
-I also thought that the image in the background was going to get annoying for some people i was going to put a button that allowed the user to disable it if he or she wanted but i think i will just find another image more suitable,
-close button, i never even thought about it like this "Imagine if every program had it's own close button in whatever place the dev felt like dumping it."

-As for basically everything else you said i pretty much agree on and i absolutely love your feed back because those things i didn't even notice but in the future i will look out for them i will being working on it some time this weekend maybe even tonight if im not doing anything!

-Oh and Heres an idea what if i put tabs at the top or sides for more in depth custom settings that way if the user didn't want to use custom setting they could just use a plain and simple layout what do you think? or maybe a button or something that switched it from a basic to advanced layout? what do you think? just something i thought about while redoing it from the v2.0.

If you notice anything else feel free to tell me !!!!