$100,000 Prize, Could Be Better Spent?
JiggyFly
I'm pretty sure it is not as black-and-white as:
Anet spends 100,000$ dollars on Chapter 2.
or
Anet spends 100,000$ on prize money.
I think it's neat that Anet put up prize money, and it does add a bit of incentive to get into PvP. And from a managment standpoint it's genius, because they realize many players are twidling their thumbs waiting for Chapter 2, and some might start leving for other games. But if the reward gets just 2,001 people to consider "Heck I'll try PvP if there are rewards" or even just kept a few more players around until Chapter 2, it was a win for them.
Or you could look at it as Anet doing something nice for it's gaming community..but god forbid they get any thanks for putting up 100,000 buckaroos.
Anet spends 100,000$ dollars on Chapter 2.
or
Anet spends 100,000$ on prize money.
I think it's neat that Anet put up prize money, and it does add a bit of incentive to get into PvP. And from a managment standpoint it's genius, because they realize many players are twidling their thumbs waiting for Chapter 2, and some might start leving for other games. But if the reward gets just 2,001 people to consider "Heck I'll try PvP if there are rewards" or even just kept a few more players around until Chapter 2, it was a win for them.
Or you could look at it as Anet doing something nice for it's gaming community..but god forbid they get any thanks for putting up 100,000 buckaroos.
LuLu
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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh
well considering you have to travel to take part in the final, once that money has been split between 8 of you, and expenses have been removed, its not gonna be *that* impressive (although still an amount I would kill for)
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Makkert
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Originally Posted by Alexi Zingforger
When I first saw this prize that was up for grabs, I thought it ridiculous, surely Arenanet doesn't have to resort to this to keep players interested. Not only this, but truly a very small amount of people are going to participate and receive any kind of award from this.
Do you think this money is better invested in developing more content for the game, or perhaps Chapter 2? I for one would 100% prefer this. |
I come from the Magic the Gathering corner, where also high rewards are being payed to top players.
It gives an extra incentive to top players to reach the edge of their possibilities. Having a good top competitive environment for games like this is important: for balance reasons, for the talk of the moment which keeps game fresh (we are talking on it here also ), to find new buildtypes, and it shows that ANet takes the WorldChampionship very serious.
greetings Makk.
Kaguya
The prize money isn't really much nothing, it prolly is under 'Advertisement'-tab in their bookkeeping too. There have been news on many gaming websites about the reward, and there still will be. It's all advertisement.
Effendi Westland
It's marketing, very good marketing actually.
Perhaps ANet has it sponsored, perhaps not, however it is not money that would have been better spend on chapter 2 in my opinion. I think this is mostly targeted to Korea, and perhaps they are running an add-campaign with it, perhaps that is not necessarry. Korea is a very different gaming-culture, where the masters of starcraft have been treated like gods and still are treated that way. They have arena's there with a ring for spectaters where the starcrafters take place in the middle and everybody can follow it on a big screen, very popular.
Perhaps ANet wants to be the most popular PvP experience. Besides , if they actually get people joining because of price money (not unthinkable, happened to magic, the gathering trading card game) the costs of the price money is reduced by the extra people it draws (Because that income would otherwise not be gained).
Perhaps ANet has it sponsored, perhaps not, however it is not money that would have been better spend on chapter 2 in my opinion. I think this is mostly targeted to Korea, and perhaps they are running an add-campaign with it, perhaps that is not necessarry. Korea is a very different gaming-culture, where the masters of starcraft have been treated like gods and still are treated that way. They have arena's there with a ring for spectaters where the starcrafters take place in the middle and everybody can follow it on a big screen, very popular.
Perhaps ANet wants to be the most popular PvP experience. Besides , if they actually get people joining because of price money (not unthinkable, happened to magic, the gathering trading card game) the costs of the price money is reduced by the extra people it draws (Because that income would otherwise not be gained).
Alexi Zingforger
From what I know about game developers, they receive a very small slice of the money pie, though perhaps the $100,000 really isn't a large amount of money to them. I guess my reaction stems from the argument that they're just throwing money at us and not giving us more of the things we really want.
KiyaKoreena
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
1 million copies of guild wars.... times 50$ .... they can afford this
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Racthoh
A company that cares more about its customers than its own pockets. That's the way I see it as.
Sagius Truthbarron
Do alot of people generally compare Arenanet to themselves or something? "omgz i don have 100k! how can dey afford dat dey shall b teh bankrut bie chaper 2 and den dey not make chaper 2!!!"
They also seem to think that an extremely rich, very professional and expirienced Korean MMORPG company that hiers corperate Think-Tanks can't think for themselves.
No, I doubt they are going to go bankrupt from giving one team 100,000 dollars out of their surplus and I don't think they'll have to make any compromises for chapter 2.
I'de have to say $100,000 isn't really that much for climbing to the top of the guild ladder, then having to battle the best guilds in the world, along with all that hassle of planning and spending all that time trying to get to the top of the ladder for months on end.
Sure, going to Taipai might be a reward in itself, but what are you going to come home with after you win? 'Oh, gee, that was fun, I only wasted 5 months of my life for that...'
They also seem to think that an extremely rich, very professional and expirienced Korean MMORPG company that hiers corperate Think-Tanks can't think for themselves.
No, I doubt they are going to go bankrupt from giving one team 100,000 dollars out of their surplus and I don't think they'll have to make any compromises for chapter 2.
I'de have to say $100,000 isn't really that much for climbing to the top of the guild ladder, then having to battle the best guilds in the world, along with all that hassle of planning and spending all that time trying to get to the top of the ladder for months on end.
Sure, going to Taipai might be a reward in itself, but what are you going to come home with after you win? 'Oh, gee, that was fun, I only wasted 5 months of my life for that...'
qwe4rty
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Originally Posted by Alexi Zingforger
I realise that it isn't a great deal of money in today's gaming industry, I just think it could be better spent elsewhere, such as hiring people to keep us better informed of progessing developments. I really dislike the lack of information that we receive, especially on the front page of the website.
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Plus, why should they give out all the information at once. It's like a hook, keeps us salivating for more. I like how they are doing it now just fine. It's just enough each time to make me want to get Ch. 2.
My $ .02
Zaklex
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Originally Posted by Alexi Zingforger
SNIP Or perhaps buying some more bandwidth to stop the lag which is blighting servers recently.
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As for those people calling for GM's, there are no GM's in GW nor will there ever be, it doesn't require them, that's what the reporting process via the support page is for.
Sir Skullcrasher
$100,000 dollars, wow thats enough to get..1852 copies of Chapter 2!
Hanuman li Tosh
it is chump change. theres 10 ppl per team so 10k each. you arent even a pro gamer off 10k. however, most pro gamers get paid off sponsors and not purses.
but 100k for a prize in a tourney is the best advratising you can buy in a video game. so kudos to anet on that one.
but 100k for a prize in a tourney is the best advratising you can buy in a video game. so kudos to anet on that one.
hidden_agenda
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Originally Posted by Zaklex
The lag has nothing to do with bandwidth and everything to do with the inferior internet substructure, i.e. still travelling over copper wires, etc.. IF everything was optical, including right up to the connection to the comp itself, you would see a significant drop in lag, though distance from the source would still play a part.
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In fact, this is one of the reasons for the collapse of the communication / network backbone industry in 2002 (remember MCI/WorldComm? AT&T split?)
My point being -- this is not a problem that Anet can solve. Billions of $$s had already been spend and is continuing to be spent on this issue. Everyone has had to live with it -- including all the online game companies, the business sites (eBay, Yahoo!, etc.)... So it really doesn't explain the issue of the recent server lag.
[Complete aside: Yes, I did work for a network start-up and knows more about the 2002 network collapse than I care to... ]
Andy_M
Hmmm, at current exchange rates (£1 = $1.7) thats about £56-57k. Not too shabby even after dividing amongst a team.
Just putting it into perspective. A very nice bundle of cash indeed.
Just putting it into perspective. A very nice bundle of cash indeed.
Lews
There is plenty of Moderation, I myself talk to people from arena-net every day.
Sereng Amaranth
Ok, if you consider $50 per person, and the 5000+ that are signed up on the GWG Auction alone, that is 2.5 times the amount they are giving away. Now consider that there is over 50,000 users of GWG. Consider that even though GWG is the best website for Guild Wars, there is probably more people that own the game that are members of only 1 of the 30+ websites devoted to Guild Wars. If someone knows the exact sales figures that would help. But I estimate a quarter million units sold. Multiply by $50 and that is $12.5 mil. Now how does that $100k look like?
lord pun|shment
they wouldve made more than 100,000 in profits from sales etc allready
i hope they do it for years to come, one day my guild might have a chance at it.
i hope they do it for years to come, one day my guild might have a chance at it.
Buzzer
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Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
Ok, if you consider $50 per person, and the 5000+ that are signed up on the GWG Auction alone, that is 2.5 times the amount they are giving away. Now consider that there is over 50,000 users of GWG. Consider that even though GWG is the best website for Guild Wars, there is probably more people that own the game that are members of only 1 of the 30+ websites devoted to Guild Wars. If someone knows the exact sales figures that would help. But I estimate a quarter million units sold. Multiply by $50 and that is $12.5 mil. Now how does that $100k look like?
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And also, don't assume that the game developers get 100% of the money out of our pockets. From what I've heard, a more realistic figure is 10-20%.
RotteN
still 100k is a "joke" compared to FPS competitions. the CPL world tour had 1.000.000$ in prizemoney, divided over different events, with a prize of 150.000$ to the one that won the grand finals, not to mention this was a single-player competition, while guild wars has 8-player teams ...
any big competition has prizemoney, why would GW be any different ? and this money comes from sponsoring anyway, without this event, that money would not been in A-net's hands, and for that, there are no better ways to spend it
any big competition has prizemoney, why would GW be any different ? and this money comes from sponsoring anyway, without this event, that money would not been in A-net's hands, and for that, there are no better ways to spend it
Patrograd
Guild wars is still a very new game in terms of competitive online gaming, and is a long way behind others in terms of the level of competition at the top end. It is this top end competition that needs to be encouraged and nurtured if GW is going to be around in 5 years time as a game that the serious gamers play.
Thus ANet have put this money up, in the scheme of things not alot of money when you think the winners will have played for more than three months to earn it - you can earn much more from other games.
I would expect as GW matures over time that the competitions will see much bigger prizes and, hopefully, some more serious competition at the top end which is currently dominated by a very small handful of teams and their smurfs.
Thus ANet have put this money up, in the scheme of things not alot of money when you think the winners will have played for more than three months to earn it - you can earn much more from other games.
I would expect as GW matures over time that the competitions will see much bigger prizes and, hopefully, some more serious competition at the top end which is currently dominated by a very small handful of teams and their smurfs.
xxreaper008
How is 100,000 is going to be splited in the winnig team r guild?
theclam
It shows their serious about fostering a great PvP community. That's good advertisement.
Weezer_Blue
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Originally Posted by Alexi Zingforger
When I first saw this prize that was up for grabs, I thought it ridiculous, surely Arenanet doesn't have to resort to this to keep players interested. Not only this, but truly a very small amount of people are going to participate and receive any kind of award from this.
Do you think this money is better invested in developing more content for the game, or perhaps Chapter 2? I for one would 100% prefer this. |
Gli
Yeah, the PvP aspect really needs to be polarized some more. There's still too many people playing PvP who aren't snobs.
yangster
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Originally Posted by xxreaper008
How is 100,000 is going to be splited in the winnig team r guild?
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Wyett
1 - 100 k is nothing. Gaile Gray probably makes 120-140k a year, depending upon her title within the company. That means, you MAY get ONE more Gaile, and she may not be as nice Money wasted in getting a second one in my opinion.
2 - Why do yall complain about what is free? Ever heard the phrase, don't look a gift horse in the mouth? Regardless of the prize, 100k in prizes is still something more than you had. Just enjoy the fact they are doing something for their product, unlike other companies who actually charge you to compete for their "Free" items.
3 - Don't think the Anet is trying to keep customers by having these tournaments and free prizes. Think of it as a gift back to those who have played the game, and helped it expand globally. If it weren't for a few other players of this game, I would have never played myself. Word of mouth is the best way to get a game out sometimes. It's just their way of thanking us in my opinion.
4 - Enjoy the game.
2 - Why do yall complain about what is free? Ever heard the phrase, don't look a gift horse in the mouth? Regardless of the prize, 100k in prizes is still something more than you had. Just enjoy the fact they are doing something for their product, unlike other companies who actually charge you to compete for their "Free" items.
3 - Don't think the Anet is trying to keep customers by having these tournaments and free prizes. Think of it as a gift back to those who have played the game, and helped it expand globally. If it weren't for a few other players of this game, I would have never played myself. Word of mouth is the best way to get a game out sometimes. It's just their way of thanking us in my opinion.
4 - Enjoy the game.