Help with my 7 Heros

Thought #3 - Modify the UA as:
Mo/Rt - HP 9+2+1, DF 9+1, Resto 12 - [Unyielding Aura][Recuperation][Rejuvenation][Signet of Rejuvenation][Signet of Devotion][Healing Breeze][Spirit Light][Mend Body & Soul] What? Recup cost 25e with zero energy management and Healing Breeze is just plain terrible. If you want party healing on a UA bar then Divine Healing and Heaven's Delight are the better options, not costly spirits.

What? Recup cost 25e with zero energy management and Healing Breeze is just plain terrible. If you want party healing on a UA bar then Divine Healing and Heaven's Delight are the better options, not costly spirits. Actually, no, it's not "just plain terrible" - it works very well. But, you have to keep in mind that this is used in conjunction with a regular HB monk.
As far as energy management is concerned - given that it carries a high energy staff and uses two signets (which need no energy), plus normal energy regen, energy is not a problem.

Also, keep in mind that, at the current attribute levels, Recuperation gives a constant +3 health regen for 39 seconds with no additional energy costs. It also means that the monks need less additional healing, thereby allowing them to use smaller, less energy hungry heals.

I know that Healing Breeze is one of the skills that "leet" players like to crap on, but it does an excellent job of combating degen.

Think outside the PvXbox.

Actually, no, it's not "just plain terrible" - it works very well. But, you have to keep in mind that this is used in conjunction with a regular HB monk.
As far as energy management is concerned - given that it carries a high energy staff and uses two signets (which need no energy), plus normal energy regen, energy is not a problem.

Also, keep in mind that, at the current attribute levels, Recuperation gives a constant +3 health regen for 39 seconds with no additional energy costs. It also means that the monks need less additional healing, thereby allowing them to use smaller, less energy hungry heals.

I know that Healing Breeze is one of the skills that "leet" players like to crap on, but it does an excellent job of combating degen.

Think outside the PvXbox. Sup,

just a few points...
1) don't say "think outside the pvxbox", it kinda says people don't use their brains and copy, which is kinda rude! Maybe the person had genuinely thought about his comment? Any for that....

2) the monks elite skill is UA! As well as super res that's 50% extra heals on monk skills!!! So why the hell give it ritulist heals - lol? You might be thinking outside the pve box but also outside the sanity box! Mbas an spirit light - Lol? Take patient, or healing whisper or dwaynas kiss or monk skills that benefit from UA!

3) same applies to heal breeze! It's a good skill in some situations - BUT has negative synergy with UA! Might as well take cure hex if ur worried about
degen as it not only removes some of the degen but the heal benefits from UA!

Builds are not about trying to beat Pvx or not! They are about finding synergy - your suggestions arnt on pvx but have no synergy whatsoever!

Anyway back to the build -

IMO stick pets on each ranger, maybe take a command para to handle the shouts, need splinter weapons, jagged bones minion bomber with prots Is strong and you only need 1 healer. Try this....

R/W barrage with SAve yourselves
R/Rt x2 barrage with pets
P/W commandagon
Rt SoS with splinter and recuperation
D/N orders
N/mo jagged bones with prots
Mo/E UA with heals

(on my mobile so can't upload builds)

hope that helps!

Pce

In the situations where I want health back I'd rather have it instantly and not over time. It's a combination of Recuperation/Rejuvenation and "instant" heals. The regular HB monk is mostly responsible for the "instant" heals, plus the UA Mo/Rit helps with the signets. (Note that I said that the UA Mo/Rt is used with a regular HB Monk.)
Going pure "redbar" with instant heals is not a good idea.

You're right, I forgot about that. So, the UA is only for the instant rez. So just think of it as a rez, like if it was Rez Chant and don't get all twisted up about the +50%.
It would be better to worry about the maintenance cost, but it can be micro'd.


Make up your mind, should it have MB&S or not!

But, seriously, I find Healing Breeze to be the most misunderstood Monk skill. Too many people look upon Healing Breeze as if it was the only skill in a build. But, in reality, I find that the Heroes use HB very appropriately. I also find that the MOnk Heroes tend to use certain spells over and over again, so just giving them more skills doesn't change much.
HB can be used on all allies, including the caster. It can be used to counter degen and it can be used as just a bulk heal. It gives significant regen even at low levels of Healing Prayers. Removing the source of the degen is much more efficient; conditions are damn easy to remove and hexes are only troublesome when alot of them are stacked, something you only really see in places such as DoA or Slavers and though expensive Convert Hexes cuts right through them. Healing Breeze is not misunderstood at all, it's a 10e skill on a 2s recharge and probably more of a drain on energy than something actually useful.

You're right, I forgot about that. So, the UA is only for the instant rez. So just think of it as a rez, like if it was Rez Chant and don't get all twisted up about the +50%.
It would be better to worry about the maintenance cost, but it can be micro'd. UA is an awful skill, and this is why. Its secondary effect is completely overshadowed by HB, and isn't worth the large drop in energy management anyway from the -1 pip. Thus, its only use is as a rez skill. One of the most fundamental lessons of a monk is NOT bringing a ressurection skill. Parties should only need a couple of them anyway (how many times do your party members die anyway? if its fairly often, then you need to rethink your entire team build), and the monk should focus on keeping the party from dieing, not from ressurecting dead allies (which should be prevented in the first place). Ressurections should never be brought on a monk, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY TAKE UP YOUR ELITE SPOT. Use something useful like a removal/healing elite on a prot monk or healers boon/WoH/healers burst on a heal monk.

UA is the perfect example of why popular doesn't always equal good. It is really annoying to see people continually trying to convince themselves that an instant-rez elite skill on a backliner is a good thing.