Update - Thursday, July 28, 2011 - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

29 Jul 2011 at 00:05 - 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuildWars Official Wiki

Skill Changes

Assault Enchantments: this skill now has no attribute.
Forked Arrow: this skill now has no attribute.
Hexbreaker Aria: this skill now has no attribute.
Lift Enchantment: this skill now has no attribute.
Mirror of Disenchantment: this skill now has no attribute.
Mirror of Disenchantment (PvP): this skill now has no attribute.
Song of Concentration: this skill now has no attribute.

Creature Updates

Warden of Saprophytes and Falaharn Mistwarden now use Mantis Touch.
Ssaresh Rattler now uses Fox Fangs.

Bug Fixes

Fixed a bug that caused Blinding Powder to apply Blindness for too long with 0 points in Shadow Arts.
Fixed a bug that caused Mandragor's Charge to cause Health loss instead of dealing damage.
Fixed a text bug that caused Vabbian Nobles in "To See the Sights" to be labeled as "Istani Noble."

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enjoy this odd update

Prestige

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2011

Canada [GMT -5]

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

D/A

29 Jul 2011 at 00:06 - 2

Weird update o.o

Elnino

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

In a house

Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]

A/W

29 Jul 2011 at 00:09 - 3

What exactly do those skill changes accomplish?

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

29 Jul 2011 at 00:10 - 4

Found it unusual as well xD Probably just fixes that were request at the official forum for game bugs, no?

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

29 Jul 2011 at 00:18 - 5

Those skills are simply ones that were in an attribute before but didn't actually scale with the attribute. Not really a skill change or a fix, just a reclassification so that its easier to find them. Otherwise you have to manually look through attributes that you have 0 in to put it on your bar sometimes.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

29 Jul 2011 at 00:20 - 6

Quote:

Hexbreaker Aria: this skill now has no attribute.

Probably the only thing I like... everything else seems... I don't know what to say. It's not bad...

thetwistedboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2009

I live right there, see?

Apostles of Oblivion

W/Mo

29 Jul 2011 at 00:22 - 7

They probably should have done this a while ago, now Anet just looks pretty lazy -.-

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

29 Jul 2011 at 00:22 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Probably the only thing I like... everything else seems... I don't know what to say. It's not bad...

Nothing has changed...?

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

29 Jul 2011 at 00:23 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeBron

Nothing has changed...?

Goes to show you how much I cared about it in the first place...

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

29 Jul 2011 at 00:49 - 10

nothing special to me. when i saw the update i foolishly though part 2 of woc was out. xD hehe

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Jul 2011 at 00:49 - 11

If nobody sees it I will point out - this update is a Mirror of Disenchantment nerf - it won't work with a 40/40 Dom set anymore. Nothing big obv but was this needed just for the consistency?

GrimmNinja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

UK

Society of Souls [Argh]

A/

29 Jul 2011 at 00:59 - 12

If it was just 'housekeeping' how come it wasn't tagged onto the previous update? Maybe Anet are trying to mess with us and make us get our hopes up and think it is the 2nd part of WoC XD

X Dr Pepper X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

29 Jul 2011 at 01:00 - 13

Nice to know ANet still has priorities.

ANet should just tell us what the are going to balance next. Really...

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

29 Jul 2011 at 01:02 - 14

Forked Arrow, no attribute. But if I am not enchanted, sure to be hexed; so one arrow anyways.

Hexbreaker Aria was already described as "essentially an unlinked skill." So gain little, lose nothing.

But ... Ssaresh Rattler now uses Fox Fangs.

Oh noes! I am a'feard! I am a'feard! Wonder what he was using before? Never knew because he was always dead before I looked. He's in Maishang Hills south of Bai Passu Reach outpost.

If you don't manage to catch him on the way in, he and his small group of Naga will suicide against Seacrash and an Island Guardian. Might be some rot wallows there too. Well, Fox Fangs is unblockable. Perhaps it is added to his other dagger attacks so he can make a bigger dent in Seacrash before dying.

Ssaresh in theory drops decent lightning daggers with bonus against hexed targets. Never bothered to farm them.

Seacrash drops an Earth Wand that looks sort of cool. Never got one of them neither.

Find skills more easily. Get a tad more damage from the enhanced Ssaresh which boss most players blasting their way through the game these days never even notice anyways.

Strange update, very.

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

R/

29 Jul 2011 at 01:16 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elnino

What exactly do those skill changes accomplish?

For the players, nothing. For Anet, looking busy.

lursey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

d2

R/N

29 Jul 2011 at 01:24 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

If nobody sees it I will point out - this update is a Mirror of Disenchantment nerf - it won't work with a 40/40 Dom set anymore. Nothing big obv but was this needed just for the consistency?

a buffed to all enchantment I must say.... less mirror of disenchantment.. more enchantment.. god help us..gg

perhaps you don't have to change weapon now to use the 10/10 all skill recharge upgrade for the mirror of disenchantment~~~

Essence Snow

Unbridled Enthusiasm!

Join Date: Nov 2009

EST

DPR

29 Jul 2011 at 01:43 - 17

I can only hope that this is a prep udate for the next WoC chapter...other than that.....I don't have the foggiest what it accomplishes.

Mireles

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/Me

29 Jul 2011 at 01:48 - 18

is this update making anyone else say.... "ok..... why did you do this?"

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

29 Jul 2011 at 02:36 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

Nice to know ANet still has priorities.

ANet should just tell us what the are going to balance next. Really...

I don't think this is even supposed to be a balance update. Just a random fix to bugs and inconsistences(sp?) done by whoever is in charge of dealing with that.

We've been getting a lot of bug fixes since they opened their official forum for bugs.

I believe those things are done separately from the designers behind skill/ content updates, and this time, they were updated separately as well.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

29 Jul 2011 at 03:10 - 20

I think its great they are fixing some of the bugs....but these dont seem to be them---

I believe there are much older issues that they could be addressing than changing the attributes for these skills (a look thru the known bugs section here is just the tip).

so I'm with the "......ah....uhm....

....what?' crowd on this one (though 2 weeks with updates.....would be nice if we got them everyweek----)

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

29 Jul 2011 at 04:02 - 21

also,

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Anthem_of_Guidance

???

Sankt Hallvard

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2006

29 Jul 2011 at 05:12 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeBron

also,

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Anthem_of_Guidance

???

Don't worry. It didn't quite make it to this update but my sources inform me that it will be the protagonist of the next bi-monthly update. Sorry about the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Plutoman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2010

E/

29 Jul 2011 at 05:43 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiogoSilva

I don't think this is even supposed to be a balance update. Just a random fix to bugs and inconsistences(sp?) done by whoever is in charge of dealing with that.

We've been getting a lot of bug fixes since they opened their official forum for bugs.

I believe those things are done separately from the designers behind skill/ content updates, and this time, they were updated separately as well.

Sounds most likely. While the designers are doing other work, they're just fixing all the weird lil miscellaneous things that have been around. Hopefully they'll get to more as we go on.

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

29 Jul 2011 at 06:30 - 24

I'd actually support updates that change skills even fro no other reason than to "shake thing sup" and make people rework their (our) builds.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

29 Jul 2011 at 06:59 - 25

It's not really skill update considering those skills in their category( a.k.a domination , critical, etc...) didn't require any points for their effects...

It's not changing anything, more like bug fixes....

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

29 Jul 2011 at 08:53 - 26

They should move Shadow Form into No Attribute and fix the duration to 10 seconds.

Update doesn't change much, but it's always nice to see a small change when you hit K.

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

29 Jul 2011 at 09:31 - 27

STRONG update, this realy adresses all the problems we facing in pvp.
Ty Anet for making the game BALANCED again.

tenderpoison

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2010

Omnipresent

A/

29 Jul 2011 at 10:32 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coast

STRONG update, this realy adresses all the problems we facing in pvp.
Ty Anet for making the game BALANCED again.

Lol! My thoughts exactly, but I would add PvE too. Every single problem we ever had is now fixed. No, really now. Was this update really that necessary? Was it such a priority? Nothing else more important to fix than this?? Weird...

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

29 Jul 2011 at 10:39 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by HigherMinion

They should move Shadow Form into No Attribute and fix the duration to 10 seconds.

Update doesn't change much, but it's always nice to see a small change when you hit K.

More like move shadow form into Critical strikes, make it 1 second + a duration based on Crit strikes rank.
Then if your an assassin prime you get to use it otherwise get lost.

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

29 Jul 2011 at 10:59 - 30

Right...ok then. It probably takes the same amount of effort to just tweak some numbers for rangers in PvE and fix PvP isses.

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

29 Jul 2011 at 11:34 - 31

This forum is how the dev team get their kicks.

pointless random update->check guru for QQ-> ???->profit.

Fate Crusher

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pie-land

Warlords Of The Underworld [WoTU]

Mo/

29 Jul 2011 at 13:46 - 32

SoC never needed an attribute, finally moving it away from the Command line was more for administration.

Assault Enchantments used to do bonus damage but now it obviously does not.

The others are now free disenchantment options, since their bonus damage or proc effects from the attribute lines were useless. So instead of buffing these, they now made several non-attributed enchantment strips. To do what? I don't know, because that's not the way to tackle Dervishes... Or is it?

Lucy Saxon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2011

Nodnol, Blighty

The Celestial Syndicate [ANGL]

D/

29 Jul 2011 at 14:51 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

SoC never needed an attribute, finally moving it away from the Command line was more for administration.

Assault Enchantments used to do bonus damage but now it obviously does not.

The others are now free disenchantment options, since their bonus damage or proc effects from the attribute lines were useless. So instead of buffing these, they now made several non-attributed enchantment strips. To do what? I don't know, because that's not the way to tackle Dervishes... Or is it?

It's possible that's the intention, but with the enchant teardown system most dervishes use now, I'm not sure how beneficial it would be to strip them.

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

29 Jul 2011 at 15:03 - 34

Still, pointless update. Those skills were known to be almost no-attribute, moving them seems just a "Let's make skill list a bit more ordinate"....

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

29 Jul 2011 at 15:36 - 35

Surely d-shot should be made No Attribute, too?

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

29 Jul 2011 at 15:44 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

SoC never needed an attribute, finally moving it away from the Command line was more for administration.

Assault Enchantments used to do bonus damage but now it obviously does not.

The others are now free disenchantment options, since their bonus damage or proc effects from the attribute lines were useless. So instead of buffing these, they now made several non-attributed enchantment strips. To do what? I don't know, because that's not the way to tackle Dervishes... Or is it?

Assault enchantment problem in the past was only that you could spam it permanently, but it was dealing no damage, only removing enchants...
Besides, you can maybe remember it, as R/A were using that skill( and they don't have access to critical damage to make more points in it )

This isn't even an update or anything( bug fix i mentionned above) in fact... just making thing look cooler and easier...

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

29 Jul 2011 at 17:29 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by HigherMinion

Surely d-shot should be made No Attribute, too?

The (small) damage that D-shot does is linked to Expertise.

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

29 Jul 2011 at 18:04 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iuris

I'd actually support updates that change skills even fro no other reason than to "shake thing sup" and make people rework their (our) builds.

Yes, because that has worked out so well in the past. Not.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

29 Jul 2011 at 20:01 - 39

The reason song of concentration and hexbreaker's are unlinked is because they are popular in HA and GvG but paragons are the redheaded step child and no one wants to lose functionality by putting points into command or motivation.

The amount of time Anet has had to put into ostracizing a single class is mindboggling. Considering how many anti-shout skills are out there it's even more befuddling.

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

29 Jul 2011 at 20:05 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckles79

The reason song of concentration and hexbreaker's are unlinked is because they are popular in HA and GvG but paragons are the redheaded step child and no one wants to lose functionality by putting points into command or motivation.

The amount of time Anet has had to put into ostracizing a single class is mindboggling. Considering how many anti-shout skills are out there it's even more befuddling.

And this update changes nothing of that.

Really, it's just a fix for bugs and other small stuff. The only (indirect) skill change was the mesmer's one, because it won't be affected by dom sets any longer.