Update - Thursday, August 11,2011.

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Prestige
Prestige
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
* Fixed a bug that caused Zaishen Vanquish signposts to not update correctly.
* Fixed a bug that caused Shadow Form (PvP) to make hostile spells fail after being cast.
* Fixed a bug that caused Lamentation to deal damage inconsistently.
* Fixed a bug that caused Ja Wen to display an incorrect name in Hard Mode.
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Mastodon
Pre-Searing Cadet
#2
I think that was last weeks update...

This weeks:

* Fixed a bug that caused Zaishen Vanquish signposts to not update correctly.
* Fixed a bug that caused Shadow Form (PvP) to make hostile spells fail after being cast.
* Fixed a bug that caused Lamentation to deal damage inconsistently.
* Fixed a bug that caused Ja Wen to display an incorrect name in Hard Mode.
makosi
makosi
Grotto Attendant
#3
I don't understand the Shadow Form bug fix. Isn't Shadow Form supposed to cause hostile spells to fail?
Quantum Duck
Quantum Duck
Lion's Arch Merchant
#4
If I remember right, most forms of spell immunity prevent you from casting so you don't waste your energy, but Shadow Form in PvP just burned your energy each time you pushed the button even though it would fail. I'm guessing they just made it consistent with the others.
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chuckles79
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
In other words, my "cheapshot from hell" SF capper build for JQ just got retired.

I just want to point out, when I started playing the game heavily in late 2006; assassins, mesmers, and ritualists were the GODS of PvP, and you couldn't pay to get yourself added to a team if you had one in PvE.

Now 5 years later, they are the GODS of PvE, and they suck in PvP.

If they stick to this formula, my paragon will be an ultra PvP badarse in another year.
drkn
drkn
Forge Runner
#6
Quote:
Now 5 years later, they are the GODS of PvE, and they suck in PvP.
Mesmers are powerful in both formats, right now.
Xenomortis
Xenomortis
Tea Powered
#7
I don't see a lack of Assassins, Rits or Mesmers in PvP.

Also, I'm somewhat surprised anyone noticed that feature on Shadowform (PvP).
Prestige
Prestige
Frost Gate Guardian
#8
Oh yeah, My bad :P.

Was Under July updates !
I'll Edit it.
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DiogoSilva
Krytan Explorer
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckles79 View Post
Now 5 years later, they are the GODS of PvE, and they suck in PvP.
Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? They were one of the strongest profs before their buff, and only got stronger since then. About the other two, I have no idea; you may be right.
Swingline
Swingline
Forge Runner
#10
If this is the SF nerf Stumme was talking about I am disappointed.
Horace Slughorn
Horace Slughorn
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
If this is the SF nerf Stumme was talking about I am disappointed.
i think he was joking
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DiogoSilva
Krytan Explorer
#12
That isn't even a nerf. Just another update to fix bugs.

Skill updates usually come at the third week of each month, don't they?
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Kunder
Desert Nomad
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? They were one of the strongest profs before their buff, and only got stronger since then. About the other two, I have no idea; you may be right.

I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
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Infectious
Lion's Arch Merchant
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
How many teams do you see WITHOUT a mesmer?
StormDragonZ
StormDragonZ
Desert Nomad
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prestige View Post
* Fixed a bug that caused Lamentation to deal damage inconsistently.
I never saw a problem with Lamentation with dealing damage, so I need a clarification on what this exactly means...
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Kunder
Desert Nomad
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ View Post
I never saw a problem with Lamentation with dealing damage, so I need a clarification on what this exactly means...
Wiki says it didn't deal damage if opponent was near a corpse before, only spirits counted. Of course, anyone putting it on their bar was probably carrying a spirit in their build 99% of the time and mostly ignored the corpse part.
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Horus Moonlight
Lion's Arch Merchant
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
This is a joke right?
Elnino
Elnino
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
["sarcasm mode on"]
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
["sarcasm mode off"]
Quoting Kunder reveals that he is probably just trolling since it would have been a horrible attempt at being sarcastic.
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
Every team has at least 2 monks, but there's 10 professions and 8 slots so there shouldn't be that many of one profession.

==> monks are overpowered.
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chuckles79
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by drkn View Post
Mesmers are powerful in both formats, right now.
I stand corrected, but they were even more powerful for a long time there. When interrupting and degen were god-like abilities in the old days.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? They were one of the strongest profs before their buff, and only got stronger since then. About the other two, I have no idea; you may be right.
As I said, I stand corrected; however I feel while their overall power may be buffed, they were a more dominant force before powercreep in PvP.

However they are very dominant in many forms of PvP (not all)