Update - Thursday, August 11,2011.

Prestige

Prestige

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2011

Canada [GMT -5]

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

D/A

* Fixed a bug that caused Zaishen Vanquish signposts to not update correctly.
* Fixed a bug that caused Shadow Form (PvP) to make hostile spells fail after being cast.
* Fixed a bug that caused Lamentation to deal damage inconsistently.
* Fixed a bug that caused Ja Wen to display an incorrect name in Hard Mode.

Mastodon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2011

Goats Of Ascalon [Meh]

Mo/

I think that was last weeks update...

This weeks:

* Fixed a bug that caused Zaishen Vanquish signposts to not update correctly.
* Fixed a bug that caused Shadow Form (PvP) to make hostile spells fail after being cast.
* Fixed a bug that caused Lamentation to deal damage inconsistently.
* Fixed a bug that caused Ja Wen to display an incorrect name in Hard Mode.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I don't understand the Shadow Form bug fix. Isn't Shadow Form supposed to cause hostile spells to fail?

Quantum Duck

Quantum Duck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Err7

Me/

If I remember right, most forms of spell immunity prevent you from casting so you don't waste your energy, but Shadow Form in PvP just burned your energy each time you pushed the button even though it would fail. I'm guessing they just made it consistent with the others.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

In other words, my "cheapshot from hell" SF capper build for JQ just got retired.

I just want to point out, when I started playing the game heavily in late 2006; assassins, mesmers, and ritualists were the GODS of PvP, and you couldn't pay to get yourself added to a team if you had one in PvE.

Now 5 years later, they are the GODS of PvE, and they suck in PvP.

If they stick to this formula, my paragon will be an ultra PvP badarse in another year.

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

Me/

Quote:
Now 5 years later, they are the GODS of PvE, and they suck in PvP.
Mesmers are powerful in both formats, right now.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

I don't see a lack of Assassins, Rits or Mesmers in PvP.

Also, I'm somewhat surprised anyone noticed that feature on Shadowform (PvP).

Prestige

Prestige

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2011

Canada [GMT -5]

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

D/A

Oh yeah, My bad :P.

Was Under July updates !
I'll Edit it.

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckles79 View Post
Now 5 years later, they are the GODS of PvE, and they suck in PvP.
Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? They were one of the strongest profs before their buff, and only got stronger since then. About the other two, I have no idea; you may be right.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

W/

If this is the SF nerf Stumme was talking about I am disappointed.

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
If this is the SF nerf Stumme was talking about I am disappointed.
i think he was joking

DiogoSilva

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

E/

That isn't even a nerf. Just another update to fix bugs.

Skill updates usually come at the third week of each month, don't they?

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? They were one of the strongest profs before their buff, and only got stronger since then. About the other two, I have no idea; you may be right.

I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
How many teams do you see WITHOUT a mesmer?

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prestige View Post
* Fixed a bug that caused Lamentation to deal damage inconsistently.
I never saw a problem with Lamentation with dealing damage, so I need a clarification on what this exactly means...

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ View Post
I never saw a problem with Lamentation with dealing damage, so I need a clarification on what this exactly means...
Wiki says it didn't deal damage if opponent was near a corpse before, only spirits counted. Of course, anyone putting it on their bar was probably carrying a spirit in their build 99% of the time and mostly ignored the corpse part.

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
This is a joke right?

Elnino

Elnino

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

In a house

Proof Of A Nets Laziness[HB]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
["sarcasm mode on"]
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
["sarcasm mode off"]
Quoting Kunder reveals that he is probably just trolling since it would have been a horrible attempt at being sarcastic.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
I don't know what you're smoking. How many 3 Derv teams have you seen? Now compare that to the number of 3 Mesmer teams you have seen. Yeah, Mesmer definitely needs a buff.
Every team has at least 2 monks, but there's 10 professions and 8 slots so there shouldn't be that many of one profession.

==> monks are overpowered.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by drkn View Post
Mesmers are powerful in both formats, right now.
I stand corrected, but they were even more powerful for a long time there. When interrupting and degen were god-like abilities in the old days.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? Mesmers suck in pvp? They were one of the strongest profs before their buff, and only got stronger since then. About the other two, I have no idea; you may be right.
As I said, I stand corrected; however I feel while their overall power may be buffed, they were a more dominant force before powercreep in PvP.

However they are very dominant in many forms of PvP (not all)