Heya,
Could someone tell me how can I VQ those groups full of AoE, rupt, heals, rez and DMG with only 3 other ppl/heroes?
All other small areas in Istan and Ascalon are np, but this one is impossible.
Or is there a quest, that will negate WoC pops? Would presence of someone with active quest there negate WoC changes?
Minister Cho's after WoC - Impossible VQ
Sagittario
Cool Name
Looking on the wiki talk page it looks like if you have completed Rescue Minister Cho's Estate then there is no way of getting rid of it. It has been posted on the official forum but there is no deadline for when it will be fixed.
At the very latest we can hope it is like WiK. That is, once you have completed all the (unreleased) parts of WoC then it will return to normal. So unfortunately now you can only really and sit and wait.
At the very latest we can hope it is like WiK. That is, once you have completed all the (unreleased) parts of WoC then it will return to normal. So unfortunately now you can only really and sit and wait.
cruzer
Lots of people have complained about this. Hopefully something is done about it with future updates to WoC content.
Right now I think the only suggestion in the Wiki is to do VQ before doing WoC on a particular character.
Or is there a quest, that will negate WoC pops? <<< No
Would presence of someone with active quest there negate WoC changes? <<< No that does not help either
Bottom line is right now WoC changes are permanent.
Right now I think the only suggestion in the Wiki is to do VQ before doing WoC on a particular character.
Or is there a quest, that will negate WoC pops? <<< No
Would presence of someone with active quest there negate WoC changes? <<< No that does not help either
Bottom line is right now WoC changes are permanent.
_Deals_
Yeah i've heard about this Vq a lot too and it's 1 reason why i won't do WoC, because i offer Canthan VQ's and all those quests just screw up spawns and such making some vq's a lot tougher then they were before WoC content, all you can do is sit and wait on blow through full consets trying to finish it
diegollano2000
I have done it yesterday with my friends 1:48h but we vq´s it with the ursan and cons
Maya Cerestiez
Just make it easy by bringing the rit team.
you - SoS
rit hero - ST shelter
rit hero - SoGM comm
necro - preservation resto healer
you - SoS
rit hero - ST shelter
rit hero - SoGM comm
necro - preservation resto healer
Emperor Bush
I actually vanq'd this while doing the HM WoC quest. It was long, and there were a few wipes, but the extra NPC made a big difference. Unfortunately, I assume it's too late for you to do that.
Lily Karuna
We had a guildy having trouble as with as well. Taking the WoC quest made a huge difference in the spawns and we were then able to vanquish without too much trouble although it was still a challenge. Personally, I hope they don't take the challenge out of things. I miss BLA when it was harder 
worstnameevar
I don't know if this can be called a confirmation as it is hearsay, but an anonymous source at PAX revealed that the spawns will indeed revert after the third part of WoC is released and completed, hopefully by the end of this year.
Sagittario
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Just make it easy by bringing the rit team.
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I actually vanq'd this while doing the HM WoC quest. It was long, and there were a few wipes, but the extra NPC made a big difference. Unfortunately, I assume it's too late for you to do that.
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We had a guildy having trouble as with as well. Taking the WoC quest made a huge difference in the spawns and we were then able to vanquish without too much trouble although it was still a challenge. Personally, I hope they don't take the challenge out of things. I miss BLA when it was harder
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chuckles79
And what do you do if you are a non 4pip E player (ie warrior or paragon)?
sploosh
AngelWJedi
i so hope it does revert back. i tried humans,heros with those builds and my monk still couldnt vanq cho's. >> wasted a crap load of cons to boot. least now she can finally get that title if the rumor is true.
October Jade
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I don't know if this can be called a confirmation as it is hearsay, but an anonymous source at PAX revealed that the spawns will indeed revert after the third part of WoC is released and completed, hopefully by the end of this year.
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worstnameevar
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This doesn't sound right. When has someone at ArenaNet ever given anonymous feedback to the community, for any reason? Not a single time that I can recall.
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I have searched for an answer to the question that the OP raises since WoC Part 1 was released; this is the first inkling of proof that I have found that isn't wild rumor, and I wanted to share it with the community.
Perhaps this has just been overlooked, but why not release it during PAX with other Live Team news items(including continued efforts for WoC Part 2) to make it official?
Then again,
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why...
DiogoSilva
This was fixed in today's update. 
cosyfiep
yep the new update says they:
Miscellaneous
* Reduced the number of enemies that populate Minister Cho's Estate after the quest Rescue at Minister Cho's Estate is completed.
hope it helps!!
Miscellaneous
* Reduced the number of enemies that populate Minister Cho's Estate after the quest Rescue at Minister Cho's Estate is completed.
hope it helps!!
ChrisCo
Thank god, that was insane.
Best update in awhile =D
Best update in awhile =D
Widowmaker
I wouldn't say they "fixed" it. It still leaves the WoC content being, in essence, a trap that serves to do little but make life harder for anybody who completes it without realising the ramifications.
That doesn't exactly inspire a desire to complete the quests or experience new content.
That doesn't exactly inspire a desire to complete the quests or experience new content.
Lithril Ashwalker
honestly they didnt fix it, tried all sorts of hero combos, still cant get past first group
mage767
ANET is always right guys - I never loose faith in them. The area has been fixed.
If you still fail, then your team sucks. Improve and try again.
If you still fail, then your team sucks. Improve and try again.
~ Angel ~
If they would just make it so that if you have a party member that hasn't done WoC it reverts back to normal mobs, it would be better. It makes sense to do that since it's that way for WiK.
Kelfer
Fix should look like: If all Ministry of Purity quests offered in Kaineng are finished, then revert.
Not just this, also the extremely OP Am Fah in Shenzun are annoying. Took me several attempts to find a team that didn't wipe at the first group w. the ele fire boss. Finally did it, which surprised me tbh. Nearly gave up on Canthan VQ altogehter there .....
Way to go A'Net
Not just this, also the extremely OP Am Fah in Shenzun are annoying. Took me several attempts to find a team that didn't wipe at the first group w. the ele fire boss. Finally did it, which surprised me tbh. Nearly gave up on Canthan VQ altogehter there .....
Way to go A'Net
BenjZee
^but the point in the quests is to get rid of the Afflicted, which is what happens and therefore that is why there is scavengers.
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DiogoSilva
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Isn't it the way GW was meant to be played, rather than rolling through the whole content with one build?
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Someday, they'll add an uber mode, and someday, people will whine because they have died three times playing at uber.
Styxgyan
Impossible with a warrior. Titans HM quest are quite easy than this...
Hanok Odbrook
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Isn't it the way GW was meant to be played, rather than rolling through the whole content with one build?
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I actually remember the days when there were refund points you had to acquire prior to changing your stats. The original game was very much geared to having you become proficient with a single build, instead of the Build Wars that we have now.
Hanok
liuu
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I actually remember the days when there were refund points you had to acquire prior to changing your stats. The original game was very much geared to having you become proficient with a single build, instead of the Build Wars that we have now.
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Ahh man, I forgot that, those sucked. Couldn't be bothered trying new builds because of those. Glad they got rid of em.
Styxgyan
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No - PvE was never meant to be overly difficult. It was meant to teach you the basic mechanics of game play and team play and to unlock skills so that you could move on the the real challenging content - PvP. It was only because of the whining of people who bought the wrong game that we have the frustratingly boring OP content we have today.
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MisterB
Nereyda Shoaal
I would try million different builds and spend few weeks to do it........ 5-6 years ago.
Now I just can't be asked to waste time on it. It's broken and I would rather do something more useful like replacing bulb in my car.
Now I just can't be asked to waste time on it. It's broken and I would rather do something more useful like replacing bulb in my car.
Swingline
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Impossible with a warrior. Titans HM quest are quite easy than this...
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Styxgyan
Like MisterB say, they are usign our builds against us but very OP (I've seen an afflicted monk spamming bonds to cover all "his team" (6) when I lure them and it seems that energy it's not a problem. Now my master of whisper has chillblains 
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Max ebon vanguard tittle and taking PI and EVAS it's almost mandatory. There is a thread for these quest. But if you want to ensure the victory, spend 90-120 min. from ToA (8-man team) or less with a runner.
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I rolled through this area with my warrior and heroes. I never finished The Last Day Dawns on my warrior.
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Kelfer
Don't get me wrong.
That was not whinging earlier, simply pointing out that a bit of thouhgt abut the build / team is a good thing.
The only thing that I can remember which was as challenging as this recently was BfLA or HM Mantle in Kryta.
However I stick to my revert theory
That was not whinging earlier, simply pointing out that a bit of thouhgt abut the build / team is a good thing.
The only thing that I can remember which was as challenging as this recently was BfLA or HM Mantle in Kryta.
However I stick to my revert theory
Hanok Odbrook
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Like MisterB say, they are usign our builds against us but very OP (I've seen an afflicted monk spamming bonds to cover all "his team" (6) when I lure them and it seems that energy it's not a problem. Now my master of whisper has chillblains
Max ebon vanguard tittle and taking PI and EVAS it's almost mandatory. There is a thread for these quest. But if you want to ensure the victory, spend 90-120 min. from ToA (8-man team) or less with a runner. |
Styxgyan is right - it was much more fun and challenging to play the game with a build of my own choosing and not one that I was forced into because of the gimmick areas and builds that have since become the norm with NPC/PvE content.
Hanok
Jeydra
^ If you'd rather have fun and original builds instead of difficult content, you can always do everything in NM.
Plutoman
That's part of the game, too - if they wanted you to play all elite content with builds of your choosing, there would not be a restriction on skills. That very restriction forces you to consider more than just how you play to complete elite content, but also the very skills you use, a secondary level of depth that many games ignore.
BourbonFan
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^ If you'd rather have fun and original builds instead of difficult content, you can always do everything in NM.
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Jcpsr
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Originally Posted by Sagittario
Heya,
Could someone tell me how can I VQ those groups full of AoE, rupt, heals, rez and DMG with only 3 other ppl/heroes? All other small areas in Istan and Ascalon are np, but this one is impossible. Or is there a quest, that will negate WoC pops? Would presence of someone with active quest there negate WoC changes? |
If its impossible for you now, it will be even more impossible after they nerf armor ignoring damage. Hopefully you already got all your titles done before their massive nerf.